They Shoot Horses, Don't They?
Submitted by PriceRip on Fri, 03/10/2017 - 2:32pm
A little-noticed bill moving through Congress would allow companies to require employees to undergo genetic testing or risk paying a penalty of thousands of dollars, and would let employers see that genetic and other health information.
Not to go all Godwin' Law, but I am certain, Joseph Mengela would approve: House Republicans would let employers demand workers’ genetic test results. Those with genetic signatures indicating [fill in the blank] would be required to [fill in the blank], and so it goes.
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Russia is sounding mighty good now
man this country has jumped the shark.
we needed staples not paperclip.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
We are still the good guys, right?
I get confused sometimes
I think it's about time for
a new Bolshhevik type revolution. I know "they" have a monopoly on violence, but we're being killed, one way or another right now. How do you prefer to die, slow agonizing death or a bullet to the head?
It's time to treat these fuckers they way they have been treating us, no?
I'm tired of taking it up the rear end with out lube, ya know. The constitution no longer matters, the rule of law no longer matters, Equal Justice Under Law, is just a fricking slogan. What ever the corporations want, republicans or democrats are happy to give them. As the Drone Murder King wrote in his book, our problems are abstractions to be managed.
Our streets need to run red with their blood, their summer homes appropriated for the homeless, the 40% of food that is thrown away, distributed to the hungry, their managers and functionaries hung in the city squares, the warmongers set ablaze with napalm.
I am just sick of this shit. (Just venting what many are thinking, but afraid to say...)
RR
C99, my refuge from an insane world. #ForceTheVote
Question: At the end of the day
A. Do you want to see a full neurological scan of a candidate before you vote for them?
B. Or would you be satisfied with a tax return?
C. Or are you comfortable voting from gut instinct?
(If you are up on this science and the Brain Initiative, then you know how revealing and accurate such diagnostics are. It's predictive, as well.)
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
It's unethical, unless...
…unless the technology to rewrite genetic flaws were feeely available to all. On a voluntary basis, of course.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
Very apt typo, "fee-ly" :-D
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Law makers work for the people, don't they?
I suggest doing a clinical trial with them first. I understand sociopaths have a definitive congenital linkage.
Many of the traits of the members of the House and Senate certainly point towards sociopathy.
If these trials prove to be valid, we can do them as a preliminary test to see if candidates are even suitable to run for office in the first place.
Americans tend to vote for sociopaths
We select for that in certain professions. CEOs are often sociopaths. A certain amount of that is desirable, I suspect. The baseline for sociopathy in the US is very, very high. The American people pay to have people murdered, starved, or tortured to death all day, every day. Mostly, this makes them happy because they've convinced themselves they are murdering for a good cause and it makes their lives better and safer.
So sociopathy is a cultural value, and it might not be a presidential disqualifier. But related flaws could be measured, like the lack of normal empathy responses. Impulse control shows up clearly. So does dementia. Abnormal functions and responses will stand out, generally.
If you have the technology to see how potential president's mind works, why vote "surprise me"?
Often the clues are right in our faces, but we have not learned to process them. Take Hillary, for example. I would remark that it was the first issue-free election campaign I'd ever seen. I thought a Presidential candidate who refused to disclose or discuss any policies or issues was obsessed with hiding these things from the American people. That's a dangerous person. Now when I look at the academic studies of the 2016 election coming out, I can see the data on this:
In the last column we see a completely unqualified candidate. She presents as a clinical specimen of a con artist.
That would definitely show up on a brain scan. Would have saved the nation a lot of angst and extended the lifespan of the Democratic Party.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
@Pluto's Republic
But don't the PTB and the other corporate Dems love Hillary for these very characteristics? Would they really have dropped her for these, if they'd only realized she was what she so obviously showed that she was? Another pathologically greedy member of the Parasite Class, just like them? Most of The American People certainly tried to drop her, even with Trump as the only alternative permitted...
Repeat after screams: "As God is my Witness, I will never vote Evil again!"
Then, if you like, you can tear down some drapery, make yourself a nice outfit/cape/hoodie
and marry a war profiteerin which to help build/support a People's Party with a binding platform covering the most universal concerns to be promoted continually door-to-door in every State for landslide electoral wins that even the corporate media and Homeland InSecurity can't plausibly cheat you out of. Hey, it's a dream, right? Everybody needs a fantasy, complete with unicorns and that rainbow ice-cream they poop.Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Looking back.
To :
The Left warned the Dem bosses that she was unsupportable, but the bosses believed that Trump was the wind beneath their wings, because he was so awful. But if the American People had a brain screening to review — the Dems would not have taken the risk, and would have dropped her. By and large, the American People know she is not sane, and they voted accordingly. Tragically, the candidates on both sides were impaired, but to the Neocons that's a welcome feature: a Reagan-type gaslit president to bamboozle.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
Women with certain Genetic Characteristics
are very likely to develop a particularly aggressive variant of breast cancer. I wonder what these legislators would do if they possessed that information. Remember, these are the same sort of individuals that think they should be able to dictate the patient doctor relationship for all patients that are of a particular description / classification.
I really wish non-scientists would just leave me and my kind alone. Well, except for the Joseph Mengela wannabes, y'all can do what you will with those psychopaths/sociopaths as they are relatively easy to identify.
William Proxmire's Golden Fleece Awards and various reactions to same demonstrated the inability to understand science by a significant fraction of legislators. The point is: Legislating how science should be used sans knowledge of same leads to some very stupid laws.
Got a Link to the Brain Initiative's Predictive Ability?
I don't know much about the Brain Initiative, but I do know a bit about neuroscience.
I find it hard to believe that it is truly predictive of anything. The phrenologists of the day claimed a strong track record with their predictions as well.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
The Brain Initiative was Obama's "space program"
He was very low-key about it. Most don't realize that he is passionate about science. I was an avid follower of his neuroscience vision for the entire eight years of the Obama administration. The US leapt ahead of the world in brain-mapping human consciousness with Obama's support.
I assumed that the catastrophic mental crippling of Americans who had been deployed to Empires's war zones in Afghanistan and Iraq was the motivation, but the whole neurosciences spectrum took off at once. Nonetheless, Darpa and the MIC were strategically involved, although many of those connections were classified and scrubbed from reality since Obama stepped down. Even in the past two weeks, so much is being removed. Darpa and the NIH are returning internal server errors tonight.
Still, it's a massive thing and it's amazing there was no public awareness considering the monumental costs. Google "Brain Initiative." The program has gone through several name changes and that is just the latest. See also these direct links:
White House Statement 2013
Wikipedia
National Science Foundation
National Institutes of Health
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
Server errors and more
At NIH I tripped over some warnings suggesting the servers had been compromised.
Shades of conspiracy, Woo-Woo.
@Pluto's Republic
Well, TPTB want absolute control over communications, airspace, waterways and the CIA has certainly been trying for total brain control for some time, so my personal bet would be for something along those lines.
But I know that in some freaking ginormous military budget I read part of online some years back, there was mention of wanting to work on the ability to effectively reprogram soldiers brainwiped (and that was the term used) by electromagnetic weaponry to perform simple tasks, so I suppose there's that... why anyone ever enlists, when they'd probably do better to starve first rather than later, once mangled one way or another...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Keep in mind, too, that the US is in a desperate race
…to nail fully cognitive artificial intelligence. Everything depends on winning this race and getting there first. China is in the race, along with a few other entities. The Brain Initiative is part of this.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
Efforts to nail fully cognitive artificial intelligence
will continue to fail until engineers are able to mimic intrinsic stochastic behavior on small enough time and distance scales. I wonder how many of them even know that this is the key to success.
Burn after reading.
The Chinese have evolved into quantum space
...with their superior super-computers, so it is written, creating a "knowing" entanglement that has taken processes like encryption to new opaque dimensions.
But, I think you are right. The Turing tests of the future will evolve apace. The fact remains, though, that people have commoditified and sloganized their interactions to such an extent, that they may not notice the patterns of artificiality. Or may find a certain comfort in less thinking on their part. A true AI would likely see the weakness and opportunity that intellectual surrender presents.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
Sad to say
For many reasons the future of innovation is not longer strong in the United States of America. We could turn this around in a heartbeat but as with virtually all of our problems, we (the general population of the USofA) are not interested in putting aside our various superficial differences so as to focus on defining the fundamental issues.
I Should Back Off on the "Anything", But the "Truly" Kind of
does that. Would love something to read from your POV on this topic.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
I have never come across the Brain Initiative.
I am only aware of one interesting study about intent and neural activity. Are you referring to the Brain Research through Advancing Innovative Neurotechnologies (BRAIN) Initiative? If so, it looks interesting and might be fun to dissect, and critique.
You know at first I was horrified
But as I got to thinking on it, I think I could be in favor. After all, knowledge is key in any relationship, right? And, of course, if the employee has nothing to hide then there's nothing to worry about.
But as we all know, relationships are a two-way street. So I also would like to know everything that there is to know about the deep innards of my employer. So in return, I think I should get full access to any computer, location, or file of the corporation.
That sounds fair, right?
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard