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It took guts for The Nation magazine to publish a take down of the most horrific psyops ever levied against the American people by their own government. News broke this week when an array of intelligence experts from the US and the UK performed the missing forensics on the leaked DNC emails published by Wikileaks in order to determine how they were lifted, altered, and transmitted. In their report, they have debunked — once and for all — the national sickness known as Russiagate.

The Nation gave the article a deliberately modest and understated title: "A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack." It's one of those clarity-bringing revelations you will remember for a long time. The truth will signal, to any thinking American, that the Democratic Party will not and cannot recover from the sabotage it inflicted on this nation. They cynically used a false flag "attack" to deflect their losses and in the process pushed the US to the brink of a nuclear war with Russia. The Democratic leadership is complicit in this and cannot be redeemed. The Internet Security company that ran this fiasco, CrowdStrike, has spent years attempting to spike tensions between Russia and the United States. Their frequent assessments of Russian hacking, which they've had to retract more than once — and their close association with the anti-Russian, Soros-funded Atlantic Council has earned them some contempt among their technology peers. What would you suggest be done with them?

The article presents the context for this long-awaited forensic metadata from the documents illegally copied from the DNC server. The fact that this important analysis was either not done at all, or it was withheld from the American people, tells an ominous story of the political corruption and government-agency collusion that has befallen the nation. One must fully entertain the facts that are revealed to comprehend how deeply compromised the Federal government is, particularly the State Department and the Pentagon. There is no oversight of the government's highest authorities. Congressional hearings are a careful study in the art of asking only the wrong questions.

In essence, NSA experts say the the theft of the DNC email wasn’t a hack at all, but a leak — an inside job by someone with direct access to the DNC’s computer system. The article explains what really occurred with the DNC server and it provides the first solid evidence that Americans can see, pertaining to the factual details that define this event. The "government" cannot present physical evidence for the breach — which was widely attributed to the Russian government acting on behalf of Donald Trump — because the story was fabricated out of whole cloth. The rudimentary clues that point to Russia, if they actually exist, were deliberately planted, just as the metadata was. The American people were never shown this or any evidence to evaluate. Yet nearly half of the American public was successfully brainwashed into believing something that the other half found to be preposterous. That speaks to the ethics and quality of the American media.

US intelligence agencies and associated institutions hid their absence of evidence behind the claim that they had to maintain secrecy to protect NSA programs. “Everything that they say must remain classified is already well-known,” William Binney said in an interview. Binney was the former technical director of the NSA and designer of many NSA surveillance programs in use today. “They’re playing the Wizard of Oz game.”

So, let's mark where we are right now. With its unthinking mandatory Russia sanctions Bill, the US Congress has effectively declared war on Russia, while alienating the European Union. Europe can now see its dismal future as the holding pen for the tens of millions of dislocated victims of US wars and CIA-staged revolutions. Europe is again being set up as the theatre for another World War.

Forced into a corner and having no choice, Trump just signed legislation imposing severe new sanctions on Russia and European companies working with it on pipeline projects vital to Russia’s energy sector. Striking this close to the core of another nation’s economy is customarily considered an act of war, we must not forget…. To suggest that military conflict between two nuclear powers inches ever closer can no longer be dismissed as hyperbole.

All this was set in motion when the DNC’s mail server was first violated in the spring of 2016 and by subsequent assertions that Russians were behind that “hack” and another such operation, also described as a Russian hack, on July 5. These are the foundation stones of the edifice just outlined.

The evolution of public discourse in the year since is worthy of scholarly study: Possibilities became allegations, and these became probabilities. Then the probabilities turned into certainties, and these evolved into what are now taken to be established truths...

This was accomplished via the indefensibly corrupt manipulations of language repeated incessantly in our leading media.


The article's author, Patrick Lawrence, speaks to us directly at times, sharing his disappointment and recognizing the jeopardy that he and other contributors have put themselves in by publishing this piece. He has been advised by government contacts not to drive at night, and never rurally. That is sobering for a journalist to hear, but the truth is, journalists are dying in record numbers, even inside the US. Accident prone, they are.

Lawrence spoke with a team of notable professionals who have been investigating this alleged "hack" from the outset. The accusation was far too improbable for most of us to accept without evidence. It is this forensic team, itself, that brings great gravity to the report:

Qualified experts working independently of one another began to examine the DNC case immediately after the July 2016 events. Prominent among these is a group comprising former intelligence officers, almost all of whom previously occupied senior positions. Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), founded in 2003, now has 30 members, including a few associates with backgrounds in national-security fields other than intelligence. The chief researchers active on the DNC case are four: William Binney, formerly the NSA’s technical director for world geopolitical and military analysis and designer of many agency programs now in use; Kirk Wiebe, formerly a senior analyst at the NSA’s SIGINT Automation Research Center; Edward Loomis, formerly technical director in the NSA’s Office of Signal Processing; and Ray McGovern, an intelligence analyst for nearly three decades and formerly chief of the CIA’s Soviet Foreign Policy Branch. Most of these men have decades of experience in matters concerning Russian intelligence and the related technologies.


The report comes with a demand, which is clearly stated at the beginning:

Under no circumstance can it be acceptable that the relevant authorities—the National Security Agency, the Justice Department (via the Federal Bureau of Investigation), and the Central Intelligence Agency—leave these new findings without reply. Not credibly, in any case. Forensic investigators, prominent among them people with decades’ experience at high levels in these very institutions, have put a body of evidence on a table previously left empty.

Silence now, should it ensue, cannot be written down as an admission of duplicity, but it will come very close to one.

It requires no elaboration to apply the above point to the corporate media, which have been flaccidly satisfied with official explanations of the DNC matter from the start.


The Nation deserves recognition for their courageous journalism. Kudos to Patrick Lawrence, and to his publisher, Katrina vanden Heuvel.

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Pluto's Republic's picture

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They cant say the were not warned to go slowly and make sure of the facts. Accusing an American President of Treason [even if it is Trump] is a big one and you better have all your ducks in a row.

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@LaFeminista Robert Mueller? This alleged "hack" was the basis of everything up to this point. Proof was repeatedly asked for by many of us. Looks like the proof may be something else entirely.

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@LaFeminista @LaFeminista

LaRouche have been saying this for a few weeks now.

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Pluto's Republic's picture

@LaFeminista

…on January 21st, that Brennan and the Seventeen Dwarfs doubled down on the cockamamie Russian hacking story, as if they were in a hurry to nail that agenda right before Obama left and Trump was inaugurated. It struck me as weird at the time, since no further investigation was done between the time that CrowdStrike first came up with the Russian hacking theory in June 2016 and Brennan's January 2017 proclamation. It was simply a reiteration of the same DIY mess.

There's no question that the technology industry was developing a healthy skepticism about the so-called hack. That has continued, although it is a risky conversation for sure. One look at Congress and their Russian kabuki demonstrates that risk writ large. I'm amazed that the delusion held up for as long as it did.

How can these people's judgement ever be trusted again?

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@Pluto's Republic How many times are we gonna ask that question?

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@LaFeminista
he's been the one out front on this and testifying to congress and as usual, has been lying his ass off.
Maybe there will be a time when congress punishes people with perjury. Nah! What was I thinking?

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I’m betting billionaires taste like chicken. More research required…
Someone should put together a new cookbook with this in mind.

@snoopydawg asses off on both sides of the story.

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dervish's picture

@LaFeminista than it is members of the Deep State, ie Brennan, Clapper, Comey, et al, and of course the DNC and most of Congress. Trump is an after-thought.

Lying sacks of shit, all of them.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

and sent it out. While I'd love to think this gains traction I put nothing past these people to make this one go away too.

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Pluto's Republic's picture

@lizzyh7

Instead, they'll deflect all the attention to "the vast army of Russian trolls" that Putin hires to comment on American message boards, trying to brainwash the American people and influence our politics. The blame will fall upon those trolls who impacted the 2016 elections. Like, Sanders supporters. That will expand into fake news on the far left. Like this story, for example. And that propaganda will target website communities like this one.

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dervish's picture

@lizzyh7 is run by Russian dupes, and it was on WaPo's "fake news" list. 'Nuff said.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

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I have little confidence the report will matter. I bet they have a form letter ready that asserts how important due diligence is, and how it is equally if not more important to protect America's democracy. Or, some such horse shit.

Thanks for bringing it over Pluto.

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*donate *follow us on Twitter *like us on Facebook *dump Google

@dkmich
https://www.thenation.com/article/unverified-russiagate-allegations-prom...

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thanatokephaloides's picture

As for the Internet Security company, CrowdStrike, which has spent years attempting to start a war between Russia and the United States with their hysterical assessments of Russian hacking, what would you suggest be done with them?

Nationalize and dissolve, immediately upon prima facie proof of guilt.

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"Some members of the government are now investigating opioid pain killers but they are investigating the wrong thing. Despair-masking drugs are not the problem. Despair is."
-- featheredsprite

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

@thanatokephaloides You are kind. I had other thoughts in mind. But they are, of course, not suitable for a kleptocracy.

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The part of John Edwards could easily be played by a burnt out light bulb.
--strollingone

The issue is patriotism. You've got to get back to your planet and stop the Commies. All it takes is a few good men.
--Q

Striking this close to the core of another nation’s economy is customarily considered an act of war, we must not forget…. To suggest that military conflict between two nuclear powers inches ever closer can no longer be dismissed as hyperbole.

... to a nation with meaningful military power, that nation responded by bombing the bejesus out of our Pacific fleet.

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Sigh

snoopydawg's picture

were hacked? The fact that the FBI wasn't allowed to have access to their computers was a huge red flag that this propaganda was BS.

We are urged to accept the word of institutions and senior officials with long records of deception.

This is what many of us have been saying. These agencies and the people who work for them are now supposed to be above suspicion.

Obama is on record stating that there is no definitive proof that Russia hacked the DNC servers so that should blow out of the waters the fallacy that all 17 intelligence agencies agree that Russia hacked the DNC and interfered with the election.
Even though this has been debunked many times, I still see people posting this in their comments.

And again the DNC/Hillary used a foreign contractor to oversee its operations. The first time the democrats used a foreign company to oversee their servers was the Awan family.
Why would they not hire an American firm to do that?

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I’m betting billionaires taste like chicken. More research required…
Someone should put together a new cookbook with this in mind.

Pluto's Republic's picture

@snoopydawg

…much of a thought at all.

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SpamNunn's picture

@snoopydawg Kill 'em all. Let a Bernie sort them out.

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It's just my opinion. It can't hurt you

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First off, the fact that the initial claim has been challenged (They will NEVER admit proof has been submitted) has no bearing on all of the OTHER evidence which convinced 17 intelligence agencies... blah blah... and Trump met with Russians at other times... blah blah... And if you look at the mold growth it CLEARLY resembles Hillary... blah blah... and the biggest issue here is that it's really Trump who wants a nuclear war, but with the WRONG country... blah blah... and the cancer totally disappeared as soon as I voted for Hillary.

They will repeat the same lie even when completely disproved. That's why all Dems know that Nader cost us the 2000 election, Dean cost us the 2004 (Although he's redeemed himself by shamelessly whoring for corporate America so that one doesn't get dragged out much), Everything that happened from 2008-2010 was the fault of evil Rethugs, Bernie cost us 2016 (But they've shifted that to "The BernieBros" since Bernie started playing ball), and Trump is worse than Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Godzilla and every single evil thing can be laid directly at his doorstep.

And C99 is delusional for believing that our government kills people. (I mean, sure they did a LONG time ago. You know, a time before the statute of limitations ran out.)

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I don't Blame Christians. I Blame Stupid. Which Sadly, is a much more popular religion these days.

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@detroitmechworks

There is physical proof in the meta data of the released documents (DNC letters) that they were copied to a device by someone inside DNC headquarters. There was no "hacking" or break-in. This occurred at 6:45 PM, when the office was likely occupied.

By and large, the computer security industry in the US is not on board with the Russiagate scam. Most are aware of forensics presented in this article, which is a summary of the VIPS team's investigative results. They know what this is. They know who the VIPS team is. They know what that means.

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@Pluto's Republic

market" economy with no wealth redistribution. I'm not comfortable with such a person.

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

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@Lily O Lady That doesn't mean he's lying about propaganda, the police state, or the attempt to get us into WWIII.

You can be a free-market asshole and still object to the above things.

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The part of John Edwards could easily be played by a burnt out light bulb.
--strollingone

The issue is patriotism. You've got to get back to your planet and stop the Commies. All it takes is a few good men.
--Q

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

Hey, I'm one of those free market assholes and I'd much rather tear down the machine with the help of progressive friends than trust the deep-state and globalists for one second. Smile

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@BoberFett Cheers!

The fact is, the current version of capitalism is going to destroy capitalism anyway--and not just by destroying the earth with global warming or a nuclear war. The current status quo economics is eating capitalism alive with cartels and, ahem, "picking winners and losers" in the sense of allowing some businesses to regularly evade the law and get subsidies from the government while others have to obey the law and get little or nothing. But what's worse is the breaking of capitalism's fundamental unwritten rules. When Jeff Bezos can post several quarters in a row without profits at Amazon and still have his company highly rated by Wall St, when he can do that repeatedly over Amazon's existence, while all the other firms have to show profitability, and good profitability too, in order to keep their stock prices high, what you've got is a football game where one team is allowed to score when they reach the 40-yard line, while whoever plays them has to get into the end zone.

Add in the fact that Bezos is known to have deep CIA connections, and you're basically looking, not at a firm, but at a weapon posing as a firm whose goal is to destroy all the brick-and-mortar businesses it can, after consuming all the oxygen away from other internet businesses and suffocating them (one out of every two dollars spent online is spent at Amazon.)

And that's just one way in which the people who are supposedly uber-capitalist are actually destroying capitalism. So I'm not surprised that some of y'all want to join in.

Understand, if we ever get a republic again, you and I will be having some arguments! Maybe over a beer.

I hope we get the chance.

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The part of John Edwards could easily be played by a burnt out light bulb.
--strollingone

The issue is patriotism. You've got to get back to your planet and stop the Commies. All it takes is a few good men.
--Q

dervish's picture

@BoberFett We need a broad swath of allies for the big picture, we'll figure out the rest after the big issues are settled.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

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@detroitmechworks because some here have said that the primaries were rigged in Her favor, and that Seth Rich's death was mysterious. That's enough to warrant CT status from the Culte d'Orange.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

@dervish I couldn't care less what they think. If they prefer to stay in such a place, where bullying is tolerated, their opinions couldn't be worth much.

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The part of John Edwards could easily be played by a burnt out light bulb.
--strollingone

The issue is patriotism. You've got to get back to your planet and stop the Commies. All it takes is a few good men.
--Q

@dervish

You may have misplaced anger. I'm not sure who you're referring to as Culte d'Orange, but Trump supporters generally agree that Hillary and her sycophants rigged the primary against Bernie and believe the DNC had Seth Rich murdered. The accusations of CT come from establishment Dems and Reps, not from Trump loyalists.

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@BoberFett

I believe he refers to Daily Kos- Great Orange Stain.

could be wrong.

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Deja's picture

@BoberFett
I'm guessing you might not be a DailyKos (GOS = great orange satan, TOP = that other place, GOSS = great orange shit stain, etc.) refugee like most of us here are. There was an edict set for March 15th, 2016, whereby those not supporting Killary would be systematically purged from the previously progressive blog site. It's owner is a sellout corporate whore like his Queen, aka Her.

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"The gatekeepers must change."
Prince

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

@BoberFett Not Trump--Daily Kos.

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The part of John Edwards could easily be played by a burnt out light bulb.
--strollingone

The issue is patriotism. You've got to get back to your planet and stop the Commies. All it takes is a few good men.
--Q

dervish's picture

@BoberFett

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

@dervish

The projection light reflects so brightly on the River Denial...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

ovals49's picture

but should these reports hold up to further scrutiny there can be no other conclusion but that this fraud was intentionally designed to subvert the stability of the elected government, even at the risk of the unthinkable: a nuclear confrontation with Russia.

There should be consequences, severe consequences, for all involved. But this is America the Beautiful, where the rich and powerful routinely skate free of consequences. And the MSM is unlikely to use its megaphone to spread the news and in the process reveal the great gobs of congealed egg on its face, or to acknowledge any culpability whatsoever of their swallowing and then regurgitating blatantly unsubstantiated propaganda. Lies. Deception. Recklessly endangering the entire population of the Planet.

For. Political. Advantage.

God help us.

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"Humanity is just an evolutionary cul de sac."
George Carlin

@ovals49

God help us.

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@ovals49

Treason, absolutely.

Lies. Deception. Recklessly endangering the entire population of the Planet.

For. Political. Advantage.

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@ovals49 It's a logical, though extreme, extension of Kissinger and Reagan's October Surprise.

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The part of John Edwards could easily be played by a burnt out light bulb.
--strollingone

The issue is patriotism. You've got to get back to your planet and stop the Commies. All it takes is a few good men.
--Q

Pricknick's picture

experts across the country have debunked — once and for all — the national sickness known as Russiagate

But I didn't need the experts to start with.
I gave up very early telling anybody it was bullshit. As LaFeminista put so perfectly in this post https://caucus99percent.com/content/im-giving-talking-those-refuse-hear, I instead sat back and laughed at the fools that comprise a majority of this country.
As we're visited by those that hate here, maybe, just maybe, one of them will catch on due to your post.
What a lovely day when the willfully blind catch a glimmer of light.
Nice job.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

@Pricknick @Pricknick

She lost because of her dishonesty, because of disdain for those she claimed to represent and for a whole bunch of other reasons for which she, Bill and their sycophantic DNC are entirely responsible, not Putin. Thanks to Hillary, Trump gets to be the worst President ever.

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Pricknick's picture

@Timmethy2.0

Trump gets to be the worst President ever.

History shows that there are worse. Unfortunately, history is forgotten by most.
Where do I start?

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

@Pricknick

During the Gilded Age, the 1870s to around 1900. I believe there were a lot of similarities to now, with the corruption and government owned by oligarchs, except everything was on a much smaller scale than now.

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@Timmethy2.0
The dismal duo who set us up for the Civil War by consistently doing the wrong thing at the wrong time - or worse, doing nothing.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

Pluto's Republic's picture

@Pricknick

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Pricknick's picture

@Azazello
Snark tag.
And a fine one at that.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

(My bet was a plug nickel.)

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and the truth be damned. The question is, for how much longer will the general public believe what it is being told to believe? Msm have been playing fast and loose with the truth for more than a year now. They've been getting away with it for the most part, but they've had to sacrifice a fair amount of their credibility in the process. It's hard to tell how much of it they've got left.

VIPS are regarded as renegades by the spooks currently in power. Some of those guys have even been prosecuted. I don't see anyone in the IC willing to stick their neck out on behalf of either VIPS, or Trump. They'd probably get it axed if they did. And we're not hearing a word from Mike Pompeo. Did the guy just disappear, or what?

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native

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@native @native

This is not about the VIPS or Trump.

This is about the FACTS and the TRUTH that has just been dumped on the table.

This is about the Best Practices of the Internet Security Industry, which is a global technology. They have their eyes wide open.

This is about an Empire dying in shame.

It's too late to rescue the country and its corrupted political system.

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Pricknick's picture

@Pluto's Republic

It's too late to rescue the country and it's corrupted political system.

It's hard to find truer words. But that's just my opinion.
Nice role. Keep it up.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

@native How many of the general public? My guess is between 33% and 45%.

Regardless of that, my understanding is that the general public hasn't thought the Russia story particularly important at all.

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The part of John Edwards could easily be played by a burnt out light bulb.
--strollingone

The issue is patriotism. You've got to get back to your planet and stop the Commies. All it takes is a few good men.
--Q

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal
but there's really no way to know for sure. If say, 65% of the public disbelieved, or were skeptical of the media's constant Russia hype, the media would not be inclined to report that fact. They would prefer instead to shift public attention elsewhere, rather than admit their own editorial bias. The problem is that corporate media define public opinion as much as, or more than they describe it.

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@joe shikspack
Once again the domonrats prove to be republican right?
Say it aint so.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

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@joe shikspack

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

Thanks for linking it. I can tell you that most Dems will suddenly forget that The Nation is a liberal magazine and accuse it of being right wing. They are stubbornly hanging on to that Russia did it meme. It if sinks in at some point that Hillary was the reason Hillary lost, they will be like a herd that lost its leader... chaos will erupt!
I'd like to see someone post the Nation article on DKos... that would be hilarious!

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"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin

dervish's picture

@Fishtroller 02 but the question is impact. To get maximum impact, it should either be a diary itself, or posted in proper context in a fairly new rec list piece. It's a high-risk mission, as HRs and banning would be quite possible.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

@dervish @dervish

no skills , but ...

do what you can.

edit. was taken down immediately with one comment.
could go over & drop the Nation link into comment threads.

how can they ignore this? VIPS letter is dated July 24.
crickets.

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@irishking @irishking

no idea what that means.
did get a few more comments.

update. now they hid one of my replies to a commenter,
in which I refer to VIPS conclusions as a "matter of fact."

well, I guess that is one way to win the argument.
no response to download speed angle.

that we can not get this looked into is a disgrace.
front page stuff!
where are the dems who got suckered by this?

this is their chance to come to Jesus.
If VIPS is wrong,show me how.

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TheOtherMaven's picture

@irishking
And they don't want anyone else to hear you either.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

@irishking

that the VIPS evidence is just the evidence of a series of forensic investigators but that the NSA has evidence of Russian hacking. The problem is, the NSA says it can't show us the evidence without revealing how they got it. But Patrick's excellent article makes its strongest point in that the NSA is bluffing here.

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/08/10/new-cracks-in-russia-gate-foundation/

... Donald Rumsfeld famously argued with regard to the WMD question in Iraq, “The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” In essence, Binney and others at VIPS say this logic turns upside down in the DNC case: Based on the knowledge of former officials such as Binney, the group knew that (1) if there was a hack and (2) if Russia was responsible for it, the NSA would have to have evidence of both. Binney and others surmised that the agency and associated institutions were hiding the absence of evidence behind the claim that they had to maintain secrecy to protect NSA programs.

We already know the NSA has the ability to monitor a hack. That's not a secret. They monitor everybody. Show us the hack.

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@Linda Wood

Site rules are very clear: "Do Not: 2. Promote Conspiracy Theories (The Rule Against CT): Debunked or unverifiable theories, rumors or speculation (e.g., 9-11 was a false flag attack), particularly those promoted by right wing or unscientific sites, are not tolerated in a reality-based community. " See: http://www.dailykos.com/rules-of-the-road. You have already been warned about promoting CT with a comment you made last October. Your diary today was one link and no explanation. It was not only poor form for writing but linked to a conspiracy theory: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/08/11/1688685/-when-the-truth-is-f...

This is your last warning.

guess they don't like the Nation article.
they are right about poor form- wish one of their resident pros would take up the story.
just bringing it to their attention, is all.

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@irishking
THIS IS YOUR LAST WARNING.

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@Linda Wood

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@irishking That warning is full of shit. There are one source diaries on that site every day. The letter from the Intel Vets and the other sources are not CT.... The censorship of news on that site is worse than I thought. It really is disconcerting to see such a large group of supposedly liberal/progressive people having the wool pulled over their eyes on a daily basis.

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@Fishtroller 02 and it likely won't ever recover, that would mean giving up too much.

The question is, what's the next Big Thing? What sort of venue is going to most effective in 2018 and 2020? I suspect that it won't be blogs, FB or twitter, but something else... what?

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

@dervish @dervish

It's why the site is in decline

and it likely won't ever recover, that would mean giving up too much. ...

Too much corporate Dem money, I'm guessing, for them not to go down with the sheep and with all guns blazing in the interest of 'war' for corporate/MIC and other profits via the ongoing global corporate interest/military destructive takeover...

Edit: think I'm glitching; as I did several times the other day, just mixed up bolding and block-quoting...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

@irishking was just following orders from the top.... the DNC sent a notice to the Nation magazine that the article was CT and that the DNC is standing by the stories that Russia hack their computers.

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/dnc-makes-unbelievably-feeble-respons...

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@Fishtroller 02 What will they do when the story falls apart?

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@irishking

What was once a reputable discussion board and information site has been converted into a propaganda distribution/support operation, intended to influence visitors with what all of the smart 'leftists' are saying. Of course they can't have any facts showing there.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

@Fishtroller 02 publication, I stopped my subscription due to their shilling for Hill. Sure there are still some good writers there who do actual reporting, but there were too many with such an obvious SJW bent I could no longer read it.

But you're right, now it will be a RWNJ site in the Orange minds over at the echo chamber.

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@lizzyh7 then you would think that the Kos administration would not call it right wing at all! Oh the hypocrisy is sooo strong on that site! It truly boggles the mind.

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I, too, don't bother to tell anyone to stop talking about Russia. The cards are now falling where they may and Russia is not in the cards. We've all known it was a leak. It's going to be interesting to see how long - from this point forward - it takes the MSM to even mention this. Not holding my breath, because the color blue doesn't look good against my white hair. Diablo

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@Raggedy Ann @Raggedy Ann

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/dnc-fraud-lawsuit-exposes-anti-democra...

Aug 10, 2017
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DNC Fraud Suit Exposes Anti-Democratic Views in Democratic Party

Alienation from the Democratic Party hierarchy last fall—especially among young people who turned out for Sanders during the primaries but not for Clinton in November—was a major factor in Trump’s victory. (CIinton’s youthful support sank to such a low level in national polling that I wrote for The Hill just five weeks before the November election, “If this country had a maximum voting age of 35, Hillary Clinton would now be in danger of losing the election to Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson.”) Like the Clinton campaign itself, the DNC was complacent about the distrust that the party’s hierarchy had earned.

Eight months into 2017, the DNC seems to be on the same basic track as last year. It is symbolic and substantive that one of the national Democratic Party’s most prominent online fundraising spokespeople still is Donna Brazile, who filled in as acting DNC chair after Wasserman Schultz suddenly resigned in disrepute last summer when her on-the-job bias was exposed. The release of Clinton campaign emails showed that Brazile had used her position as a CNN commentator to obtain and secretly funnel debate questions to Clinton—via campaign chairman John Podesta and communications director Jennifer Palmieri—during the primary battle between Clinton and Sanders.

In a recent article, Salon columnist Sophia McClennen recalled: “In the months when she was interim DNC chair, Brazile went on totally lying about her transgressions until she finally admitted to doing it, but stated that she felt no remorse.”

McClennen added: “The DNC is tone deaf to the fact that Brazile and Wasserman Schultz and the whole pack of insiders that didn’t hold an ethical primary should be exiled from the party, they are tone deaf to the real reasons why Trump won, and they are tone deaf to the fact that Sanders is the most popular politician and the most popular Senator in the nation. … The Trump administration’s cronyism, elitism and disregard for any semblance of democratic values has voters calling for impeachment, but the DNC has its own credibility problems—exemplified by the fact that Donna Brazile is still a party insider.”

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

@divineorder

If this country had a maximum voting age of 35, Hillary Clinton would now be in danger of losing the election to Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure I read from the exit polling the only demographic Her did any good with at all was college educated women. I know I'm beating a dead horse, but that's pathetic, especially given the opposition.

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believed it?

My guess would be somewhere between 33 and 45%. I'd be surprised if it were higher.

Thanks for covering this, BTW; I'd never have imagined that The Nation, of all organizations, would come through when even Democracy Now! has not.

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--Q

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal
Democracy Now! these days. They're fully on top of the Russia narrative. They are becoming too main stream in their reporting. As long as the Dems look good, they cover it. If the Dems look bad - on to another story!

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@Raggedy Ann she does this on other issues too, and will omit crucial facts from stories to twist her point. Her DAPL coverage was great, and some other stuff, but for the most part I don't watch her anymore.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal @Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

It also depends which party you are from. There are many polls. This one is from last December:



These days, few Americans believe Russia influenced the election. But about 50 percent believe the DNC was hacked, probably by Russians. After all, there were the emails, which very few have ever seen.

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@Pluto's Republic I'm surprised it's as high as 50%.

Hmm. Well, there's this:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/339146-poll-voters-grow-weary...

It looks like the American people are responding with nuance, something the political system is incapable of processing:

On the question of collusion, 52 percent said they don’t believe Trump coordinated with Moscow to influence the 2016 presidential election. But 54 percent said they believe Trump’s associates may have been involved.

Either way, 62 percent of voters say there is currently no hard evidence to support the collusion claims.

Forty-five percent said the investigations into Trump’s actions should end with no action, 41 percent said they should end in impeachment and 14 percent said Trump should be censured by Congress.

In addition, 62 percent said there exists a campaign to delegitimize the president. This includes 87 percent of Republicans, 63 percent of independents and 40 percent of Democrats.

So, most of them (us?) think that somebody associated with Trump may have colluded with somebody in Russia during the campaign, but that there exists no evidence of any of that. Also most of them (us?) think that the investigations into Trump should end either with no action or with a censure from Congress. And most of them (us?) also believe that there is a campaign to delegitimize the President. They/we believe all of that at once, which shows logic and an ability for complex thought far above what most people think the public is capable of.

The political system cannot process that level of nuance, however.

Oh, here's some more complexity--at the same time

Fifty-eight percent say they’re concerned by allegations of obstruction of justice against Trump, with the same number worried about possible dealings between Trump and the Russian government.

They think there might be improper dealings btw Trump and Russia--now. They don't believe Trump colluded w/Russia during the campaign. And they're concerned about it, but feel they've seen no evidence, which is probably why:

But other surveys have found strong support for the special counsel investigating the Russia probe. A Harvard-Harris survey released last month found 75 percent support for former FBI Director Robert Mueller’s investigation.

Well, yeah. They don't think anything happened during the campaign that was seriously wrong, not by Trump anyway, they don't believe Russia hacked the election, but they do think there might be some funny business between Trump and Russia in other ways, BUT they've been shown no hard evidence of such AND they know that there is a campaign to delegitimize Trump as President, SO of course they support an independent investigation, in hopes of finding out the truth.

I'm starting to actually like the American people.

Oh, and by the way?

Despite all this:

Sixty-four percent of voters said the investigations into President Trump and Russia are hurting the country. Fifty-six percent of voters said it’s time for Congress and the media to move on to other issues, compared to 44 percent who said the focus should stay on Russia.

A final note: Why is it, when the American people don't want to buy what the establishment is selling, does the establishment always call the American people "weary?" They did the same thing when we didn't cheer our heads off for increased military action in Syria.

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The part of John Edwards could easily be played by a burnt out light bulb.
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I'm starting to actually like the American people.

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

I'm indifferent about Mueller and his Mighty Investigation. There's nothing there. Doesn't mean the investigation can't veer wildly off course and dig up some strange shit. My position on Trump is that he won't finish his first term. It doesn't much matter why. He could be convinced to step down. He could be declared too crazy for the job and sent home. He could be convicted of some crime as a result of his political naiveté.

And then we'll be off to the races with President Pence and the Republican Jesus Party.

44 percent who said the focus should stay on Russia.

Not for long, I suspect.

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who are also delighted with this New Cold War/WWIII nonsense.

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The issue is patriotism. You've got to get back to your planet and stop the Commies. All it takes is a few good men.
--Q

in unholy matrimony with Corporate Democrats, the expectation being that their union might serve as a bulwark, to protect America's Establishment from a rising tide of popular discontent. With high ceremony and fervent dedication to Perpetual Empire, the world-famous MSM Choir sings hymns of praise to the Markets and the Troops. But the Church roof is leaking, and outside the crowd is stirring. The Sermon keeps getting interrupted by loud, unexplained banging noises, and the Congregation seems uneasy and restless.

Nonetheless the ceremony is successfully concluded, with the assurance that the One Exceptional Nation is still in good hands, that our time-honored Intelligence Community remains ever watchful, and that the False Prophet with Bad Hair will never, ever be allowed to prevail.

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@native

+5

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--strollingone

The issue is patriotism. You've got to get back to your planet and stop the Commies. All it takes is a few good men.
--Q

thank you so much for posting this article and for starting the discussion about it that I assume will go on for a long time. Patrick Lawrence's analysis of the VIPS report is also posted at Consortium News, and in the Comments there I saw this point that I also want to raise:

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/08/10/new-cracks-in-russia-gate-foundation/

Realist
August 11, 2017 at 3:46 am
I was driving along in my automobile yesterday afternoon and whilst scanning the FM radio band I chanced to come upon a program on NPR shamelessly, without proof but confidently, accusing the “Russians” of hacking the North Carolina election commission servers on election day which led to havoc at the polls, with voters being told they had already voted and such things. The blame wasn’t pinned on the Republicans or the Democrats trying to suppress voter turnout by the opposition, but on the Russians who are apparently much better tuned into the intricacies of the North Carolina voting system than North Carolinian state officials, and implicitly, though unbeknownst to the public, actually had a dog in the race for president, whom from all the accusations and innuendo must have been Donald J. Trump–Moscow’s man now in Washington. This was all presented completely matter of fact, as though it was “settled science” or something. The impunity with which anti-Russian (and by extension anti-Trump) propaganda is thrown in the face of the American people is absolutely stunning.

Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Reds hack NC Elections! Cyberattack by Russkies! Steal Presidency for Trump!

http://www.npr.org/2017/08/10/542634370/russian-cyberattack-targeted-ele...

Ten months later the frustrated establishment insiders are still shoveling this bullshit… and on government-supported media.

The point this commenter makes is that the DNC is not only trying to distract the public from fraud committed against Sanders donors, as revealed in their emails, they are also trying to blame the Russians for irregularities in the election process. This connects to the phony NSA document leaked to the Intercept about Russian election interference a day or two before Comey's testimony that he had no doubt it had happened. This is cover-up behavior that is simply desperate.

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The Nation will either take a huge hit, or step up to the Big Leagues. Will be interesting to see how this article is treated by MSM and alt media.

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I seem to recall reading here that Killary, as SOS, was behind the Syrian upheaval, by proxy, prior to the sarin gas attack, in order to take over the pipelines that Assad and Putin had made a trade deal on. And, she was behind the gas attack, by proxy, pushing the atrocious Assad narrative via her buddies in msm.

But, when it became evident, during the primary, that the old Jewish guy was actually making her work for Her Turn, her posse began saying that the Russians were "about to release fake emails" (stated on Sunday shows just before "pick up da phone" Brazile Wikileaks release). Maybe Bernie had already conceded by that time - don't recall - but it was purposeful planting of misinformation seeds for future use and growth.

Projecting about Russian interference way back then gave the crooked Dim party and the DNC cover for their own bullshit fraud committed during the primary, and it gave Shills a blazed trail by which to scratch the backs of her Killary Foundation donors (no Russian/Syrian deal - only donor deals allowed, with innocent blood as a garnish).

When she lost to that idiot in chief, who obviously wasn't going to bomb the shit out of Russia right out of the gate, even though Obama was beating the war drum at the time, she and her criminal enterprise, including her and Donna's media hookers, pressed the Russiagate propaganda, taking the trail at the fork in the road Her blazed back before Brazile's unscrupulous behavior was even revealed.

Come hell or high water, Her donors must have that pipeline. If that nasty warmonger woman had been elected, we'd be at war with Russia. Plan B is what we're seeing now, but rest assured, Her is doing everything Her can to deliver on deals Her donors made with the devil.

Frankly, I'd like to see the wizard. Where's Toto when you need him?

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@Deja

I remember the tenor of the scene, but I wasn't focused on the details. I was watching the Donald and his supporters. Your narrative pulls it together nicely. Kerry was all up in that, too.

She put in four very bloody years as SOS, was involved with the CIA gun-running from Libya to Syria. Benghazi knocked her out of the game. What did she do the second term? I only remember her in endless hearings, first about Benghazi and then her emails. That stuff and giving Wall Street speeches and raising money for her "Foundation."

The two big things that sent everything south as far as Russia goes was first Ed Snowden getting stranded there by the US revoking his passport en route to Cuba. Extradition was out of the question. The Neocons turned on the propaganda full force, suggesting that Snowden giving all the US top secrets to Putin. O the hysteria. The hatred.

Then that other Neocon harpy out of State engineered the Ukraine overthrow and the NeoNazi coup. It's been a solid wall of hate-spew toward Russia since then. Rabid and obsessive propaganda. The big deal in Syria was the pipeline from Iran across Syria and onto Europe. Qatar had a competing pipeline and destination that was not cleared to transit Syria. Neither pipeline was built. As far as I can tell, the bigger picture in Syria is geopolitical — an Israeli-Saudi operation with the American people picking up everyone's tab. The Neocons are carving out Greater Israel, while the Pentagon strategy is to geographically isolate Russian from its alliance with Iran and Syria, weakening all of them. For the US, the end game is to prevent a multipolar world with other powerful nations. The US wants to be the sole ruler of the world. But that ship has already sailed and the US doesn't know it yet. With the fastest supercomputers in the world, China is mining all the Bitcoins and changing the global game. The American Century was the 20th. The 21st is the China Century.

The exposure of her RussiaGate conspiracy will be the end of her.

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@Pluto's Republic

The exposure of her RussiaGate conspiracy will be the end of her.

She really is like a cockroach, so I hope you're right. And I hope her spawn or clone or replacement won't be as hard to get rid of, or do as much damage.

Something tells me none of her criminal behavior will be brought to light until she's been dead at least 20 years, and the ones doing the digging and unveiling likely won't have any real time recollection of the goings on.

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