@LaFeminista Elizabeth Warren. She had her chance to show where she really stood and she chose Hillary Clinton.

#2 centrists, good I say.

@LaFeminista Every explanation becomes a nail.

D'ump feels loyalty to his mob boss Putin. And yes, his Russia Mafia boss has his fingers in a lot of pies. (You have to work hard to loot your own country of billions in wealth.) But yes, blaming Putin for everything wrong in this country smacks of intellectual laziness.

#3 promoting the theory the Charlottesville was Russia's!!! doing. I kid you not.

@LaFeminista @LaFeminista

Lol, Putin's shadow is here, there and everywhere - both wings of the Corporate Party are Resistance is useless!

Edit: messed up my 'delete' lines. I now suspect more than I initially thought...

#3 promoting the theory the Charlottesville was Russia's!!! doing. I kid you not.

@Deja on this one. Pence is really scary.

#3
That made me shudder. Please, no!

Trump embarrasses me, and makes me shake my head in disbelief and disgust; but, Pence scares the hell out me.

Please, no!

@Ravensword

... Unfortunately, we'll probably end up having a stretch of homegrown far-right terrorism in this country, which is actually a bigger threat to this country than Islamist terrorism. ...

Far too late to phrase it like that, lol. Although the FBI usually has to supply the weapons and impetus to what are often mentally challenged/unbalanced people in order to actually 'catch' any terrorist plotter...

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/right-wing-extremists-militants-bigge...

U.S.
Right-Wing Extremists Are a Bigger Threat to America Than ISIS
By Kurt Eichenwald On 2/4/16 at 6:02 AM

http://www.npr.org/2015/06/24/417192057/right-wing-extremists-more-dange...

Right-Wing Extremists More Dangerous Than Islamic Terrorists In U.S.

June 24, 2015 5:07 PM ET
Heard on All Things Considered

NPR's Rachel Martin speaks with Peter Bergen, vice president and director of studies for The New America Foundation, about its new study on homegrown terrorism.

...BERGEN: Well, so for instance, Glenn Frazier Cross attacked a Jewish Community Center last year killing two and then went to another Jewish center and killed another person, and when he was arrested, shouted heil Hitler. He's pleaded not guilty, but this seemed like a pretty clear case of political violence done sort of with neo-Nazi intentions. And then, of course, on the jihadi side, there are some cases that are well-known, like Ft. Hood. But there are cases that are less well-known - for instance, Carlos Bledsoe, who attacked a Little Rock, Ark., recruiting center, killing one soldier in 2009. ...

...MARTIN: The Obama administration held a big conference on countering violent extremism last year. And it took great pains - it made sure not to limit the conversation to Islamic extremism. So the White House has been sensitive to this, but is that just optics to some degree? Is there any real effort to counter what you have described - this other kind of threat, this non-Muslim radical threat?

BERGEN: Well, I think that's a great question. And certainly, a lot of the countering violent extremism work and thinking has been about jihadis. But this should be equal work done with people who have neo-Nazi ideas or extreme antigovernment ideas that are willing to conduct violence in their name. And, I mean, one of the interesting things about the piece in The New York Times today, which cited our work, is the number of police chiefs who are very concerned about the so-called sovereign citizens movement in their areas and other kinds of extreme right-wing political groups because, of course, they often target police officers. So certainly, police - local police chiefs are keenly aware of the fact that they need to be looking at other forms of political violence as well as jihadists. ...

https://thinkprogress.org/you-are-more-than-7-times-as-likely-to-be-kill...

You Are More Than 7 Times As Likely To Be Killed By A Right-Wing Extremist Than By Muslim Terrorists
Ian Millhiser
Nov 30, 2015, 1:00 pm

... Though the details of Robert Lewis Dear’s motives for killing three people in the clinic and injuring nine others are still being revealed, Dear reportedly told law enforcement “no more baby parts,” an apparent reference to heavily edited videos produced by the Center for Medical Progress, which numerous politicians have cited to falsely claim that Planned Parenthood sells “aborted baby parts.” Dear’s actions, in other words, appear to be an act of politically motivated terrorism directed against an institution widely reviled by conservatives. ...

... As UNC Professor Charles Kurzman and Duke Professor David Schanzer explained last June in the New York Times, Islam-inspired terror attacks “accounted for 50 fatalities over the past 13 and a half years.” Meanwhile, “right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities.”

Kurzman and Schanzer’s methodology, moreover, may underestimate the degree to which domestic terrorists in the United States are motivated by right-wing views. As they describe the term in their New York Times piece, the term “right-wing extremist” primarily encompasses anti-government extremists such as members of the sovereign citizen movement, although it also includes racist right-wing groups such as neo-Nazis. Thus, it is not yet clear whether Dear, who made anti-abortion remarks but also reportedly referenced President Obama, was motivated in part by the kind of anti-government views that are the focus of Kurzman and Schanzer’s inquiry. ...

... Of the 382 agencies they spoke with, “74 percent reported anti-government extremism as one of the top three terrorist threats in their jurisdiction,” while only “39 percent listed extremism connected with Al Qaeda or like-minded terrorist organizations.” ...

There was an official report done some time back under the (pretty sure) Obama? admin voicing concerns about right-wing terrorism in the US, but it was squelched purportedly due to, as far as I recall, right-wing complaints. And I'm hoping that someone else here remembers more about it than I do.

#3 I'd like to see the government put down a violent militia. Far-right nutjobs want to take up arms against the government for causes that people waged war on—in which the side who embraced said causes was soundly beaten—then they should feel free to relitigate this past battles in the manner in which has become customary: the barrel of a gun. These people will lose and get driven back into the wilderness from whence they came. These militia types can go back into the woods and jerk each other off. They can go out and by as many guns as they can for a competition amongst themselves to see who has the bigger micropenis.

Unfortunately, we'll probably end up having a stretch of homegrown far-right terrorism in this country, which is actually a bigger threat to this country than Islamist terrorism. Maybe the government can give amnesty to the rank and file so that these people can get their former lives back on track, instead of becoming insurgents.

Now, if I ever played any tabletop RPGs, I would think that Shadowrun would be more appropriate considering the direction the world is headed towards. I should probably train myself for such a future so I can make a living as a street samurai.

@native

Geopolitical observers have long noted that when an empire dies, it can go two ways. The Empire steps back and gathers itself at home, focusing on domestic issues and sometimes a period of recreation. Like the UK in its decline. Or, it doubles down and becomes vicious, lashing out and gutting its own nation, spending its last dime before collapse. Rome, for example.

Most now agree the US is taking the second road because the military is now in control of the military and the budget. It's been apparent that the American people lost all control over the government. It's not that they can't vote; it's that the capitalists choose the candidates. As Putin says, he's dealt with four presidents and foreign policy does not change. The people grow steadily more insecure.

The world needs to work together. Capitalism must be harnessed.

#4
spineless as a jellyfish, almost from the moment he took office -- no more able or willing to challenge the MICC than Obama was. Of course Bannon had to go. He stood out like a sore thumb in the crowd of militarists, Zionists, and bankers that Trump finally gathered around himself. IMO Bannon's abrasive, libertarian influence represents the least of our worries.

The decline of the American Empire is becoming precipitous, and its increasing militarism a danger to everyone on the planet. The current bipartisan power structure continues to endorse one disastrously aggressive decision after another, willfully suspending disbelief in the inevitable consequences of its own folly. I would prefer that its warmongering elites might stumble and fall, or be somehow blocked or dissuaded, strongly enough to prevent the USA from engulfing the world in a nuclear war.

I believe there is still some hope that this might be possible. The American people do not need, nor do a majority of us want to be the proprietors of an Empire.

@native

...The American people do not need, nor do a majority of us want to be the proprietors of an Empire.

No worries there! The Disposables (Non-Billionaire-Americans) have no voice in their policies and most certainly will not be considered proprietors of anything except, of course, responsibility for providing whatever profits can still be drained from them for Those Who Matter in these final days of looting the planet currently under destruction.

#4
spineless as a jellyfish, almost from the moment he took office -- no more able or willing to challenge the MICC than Obama was. Of course Bannon had to go. He stood out like a sore thumb in the crowd of militarists, Zionists, and bankers that Trump finally gathered around himself. IMO Bannon's abrasive, libertarian influence represents the least of our worries.

The decline of the American Empire is becoming precipitous, and its increasing militarism a danger to everyone on the planet. The current bipartisan power structure continues to endorse one disastrously aggressive decision after another, willfully suspending disbelief in the inevitable consequences of its own folly. I would prefer that its warmongering elites might stumble and fall, or be somehow blocked or dissuaded, strongly enough to prevent the USA from engulfing the world in a nuclear war.

I believe there is still some hope that this might be possible. The American people do not need, nor do a majority of us want to be the proprietors of an Empire.

@snoopydawg

I think it was intricately planned by the Sunnis. The US was given an ultimatum to leave the Middle East where their presence was disgusting to the people. The US wouldn't leave and there were consequences. Perhaps 9-11 was permitted to unfold, but everything the US has done militarily since then looks very stupid and incompetent. I believe the State Department was running the entire show. The Pentagon was blindsided and has yet to catch up. That's why they resorted to torture. The elected government, as is customary in these matters, was completely out of the loop. Still is. Hence that disastrous sanctions Bill that was passed by Congress. They are all nincompoops.

If the police seem to know the terrorists in Europe, perhaps it's because they are connected to their people in a different way. They are a far cry from the brutal, burned-out militarized thugs that police in the US.

#4
as to this part of it,

Now that the European Vassal States are under revenge attack by the sons of the destroyed, will they be rueful of their unholy collaboration

I'm wondering if it is the sons of the destroyed actually paying back what was done to them, or are these false flag events?

After the latest attacks in Britain, the police were able to arrest them quickly because they knew where the attackers lived. The reason why they knew about them was because the government allowed them to come and go between Britain and Libya.

After the second attack in Spain, the police were on the scene either before it started, or were just in the neighborhood. But again, the attackers were known to the police.

Payback or false flag? It's getting harder to play "as the terrorists turn".