OT 12-24-15: Folk Music, Protest Music

I might have been too young for the folk boom. When some people had tuned out rock n roll in favor of Pete Seeger et al I was still listening to The Orlons...and liking what I heard. Later I found out there was a "Cuban Missile Crisis". I missed it. I was too busy with "He's a Rebel", "Do You Love Me", "Green Onions" and "James, Hold the Ladder Steady". "If I Had a Hammer" was on the charts, though, and I did like it but in a musical way rather than as a cultural lifestyle.

By the time a few years had gone by I had connected. British beat groups (you know I love them!), being older than I, were into folk tunes. They rocked them up, of course.

The Hollies - The Very Last Day

The Searchers - All My Sorrows

And I went back a little to discover these songs. I originally used the word "tunes" but backed up. The artists here didn't think of them as "tunes". They were "songs", although there's a pop, show bizzy aspect to them too.

Jimmy Rodgers - Woman From Liberia

Peter, Paul & Mary - If I Had My Way

Then there was beauty, from white and black traditions.

Joan Baez - Trees They Do Grow High

The Soul Stirrers - Touch the Hem of His Garment

As the Vietnam War kept going we had a change, as folk became even more protest music. Songs became more openly about Vietnam.

Here are the folkies turned psychedelic rockers, Country Joe and the Fish with "I Feel Like I'm Fixin' to Die"

and we had songs about social justice...

Marvin Gaye - What's Going On

Bob Dylan - Blowin' in the Wind

Now we're in a pickle. The world is full of war, more so than I can ever remember. Where are the protest songs? It seems like most recording artists are more concerned with their careers, as if having an opinion is just too outrageous an idea. They're scared, possibly. Look at what happened to the Dixie Chicks who only said they were embarrassed to be from the same state as W. and then poof! their career was over.

I find it of interest that gulfgal's peace vigils are attended by the same people that would have been there in 1967. They've just gotten older and haven't been replaced. Is it because there's no draft? Are younger people too secure that it won't happen to them? Here's a very recent song done by some people I know. The drummer in this video is in my band. But note that the singer is not a kid. All the protests seem to come from people who had something to protest about, that affected them directly.

The Nodrogs - All Politicians Suck

So I'm glad that at least someone is trying to say something. You might know more than I do about some contemporary protest music. If so, please post some!

And Merry Christmas Eve!

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Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays to all!

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NCTim's picture

"Scarborough Fair / Canticle"

Are you going to Scarborough Fair:
Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme.
Remember me to one who lives there.
She once was a true love of mine.

On the side of a hill in the deep forest green.
Tracing of sparrow on snow-crested brown.
Blankets and bedclothes the child of the mountain
Sleeps unaware of the clarion call.

Tell her to make me a cambric shirt:
Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme;
Without no seams nor needle work,
Then she'll be a true love of mine.

On the side of a hill a sprinkling of leaves.
Washes the grave with silvery tears.
A soldier cleans and polishes a gun.
Sleeps unaware of the clarion call.

Tell her to find me an acre of land:
Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme;
Between the salt water and the sea strand,
Then she'll be a true love of mine.

War bellows blazing in scarlet battalions.
General order their soldiers to kill.
And to fight for a cause they've long ago forgotten.

Tell her to reap it with a sickle of leather:
Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme;
And gather it all in a bunch of heather,
Then she'll be a true love of mine.

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Strange bedfellows

A Kremlin official said Wednesday that Russia was exchanging information with the Taliban, the Islamist insurgency that the United States has been fighting in Afghanistan since 2001, as a bulwark against the spread of the Islamic State militant group in that country.

Zamir Kabulov, a Foreign Ministry department head and President Vladimir Putin's special representative for Afghanistan, told the Interfax news agency that “the Taliban interest objectively coincides with ours” in the fight against the Islamic State, which has captured broad swaths of territory in Syria and Iraq.

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enhydra lutris's picture

comment or even to listen to all the tunes, but I will point out the existence of "Generation Reagan" as a possible contributory factor, and maybe also MTV+DISCO..

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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I went back to college and was among them. It was a phenomenon similar to the Trump thing. A bunch of BS with no substance.

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make me feel old, because what are "songs bygone" in a way for you, are "new revelations" to me. When I listen to the music offered here on the EBs by so many of you, I realize what I like most is from the 1930 to the 1990ies. I listened to a couple of them when I was young (Vietnam era), but all of it was too far away to sink in, like nothing sinks in for what it is, if you are not in the midst of it and feel it with your own skin. Why are there no protest songs today?

You mentioned fear, yes, I think that's a factor, another one I feel might be the overload with images, sounds and propaganda from all over. I think that might just swallow up and drown everything else. Suffocation of emotions and reflections by replacement with noise, junk and shrill tunes, text and images, enabled by technology and whizkids profiteers that are as "innocent" as the nuclear scientists' minds, who invented the most destructive tools without being aware of it. And when they realized it, it was too late. I wonder how people will judge on "the internet age" one day.

There is so little silence in the world of media and a lot of personal disconnections to "life on the ground". Can't express myself.

And then, don't you have the feeling sometimes that there is a point where all the music and images and writings are "gone with the wind and not heard"?

Hopefully not. I need faith into something. That's when people get stubborn. So, very stubbornly, I wish you all, and despite all of it, some joy and peace tonight at Christmas eve.

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joe shikspack's picture

thanks for the songs.

here are a couple of more recent protest songs:

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JayRaye's picture

and right back atcha.

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Shahryar's picture

gotta shop! Then clean house! Then see if I have to work. Yikes.

I started this OT by thinking about Christmas songs which turned into thinking of songs based on Bible stories. It seems the best ones are Old Testament. That got me thinking about folk music in general, the folk boom of the early 60s and how it got transformed into such an integral part of the youth culture. It strikes me that the hippie bands from the West Coast signalled a return of the folkies after pop music had gone through the Liverpool sound and then what's called London R&B, although it wasn't confined to London.

Ok, back when I can get back...

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hecate's picture

the Old Testament through the folk people through the hippies via (or not) Liverpool, it washed up in Manchester, where it kind of, uh, exploded.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRwR7avc5Oc]

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and gets good and stuffed over the next few days.

Great OT, Shah, thx. Some great listening in store for the day.

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and a cool yule too!

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Get lost in the shuffle of the flavors of the month. The last recent anti-war song I can remember was a piece by Mark Knopfler which was powerful as hell, but completely ignored by the American music industry.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBPSr4TsQkI]

And it was merely a reiteration of what Remembrance day is ABOUT. Such a radical idea to even remember that war is a horrible sacrifice, and that war isn't to be glorified. Rather it's what we fight FOR...

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