Open Thread 4 OCT 23 ~ melding minds

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 10/04/2023 - 5:55am

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How Insect Brains Melt and Rewire During Metamorphosis

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All the connections between the neurons in the mushroom body and their input and output neurons are dissolved. At this transformation stage, “it’s kind of this ultimate Buddhistic situation where you have no inputs, you have no outputs,”

- James Truman of the University of Washington

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The understanding and possible application to human mental development,
in this age of digital bombardment, may hold some clues. What do you think?
Has DARPA secretly found a way to recode or coax neurons using electronics
or vaccines to determine desired behavior?
Wandering into sci-fi territory here.

Successfully hacking the process might mean that we truly understand
how these "brains" create multiple identities through time.

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On The Remodeled Mind

Fruit flies undergo one of the most extreme forms of complete metamorphosis. Aside from certain neurons, almost all of their larval cells are replaced with new ones when they become adults.

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On The Fragility of Memory

Truman’s ultimate goal is to coax a neuron to take on its adult form in the larval brain. Successfully hacking the process might mean that we truly understand how these insects create multiple identities through time.

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Credits ~
https://www.wired.com/story/how-insect-brains-melt-and-rewire-during-met...

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Remember, post development, this is an open thread. All subjects encouraged.

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 10/04/2023 - 7:38am

Blessed with a picture perfect early fall day here in New England.
Learned a bit at the writing circle last night. Brought a 92 year old
lady friend along. She read a touching story about her life when she
was 4 in NYC.

My contribution was a lead-in for a community campfire event.
Just threw it together in about 5 minutes the other day.

"The night fogs snaked eerily along the shore. Following an instinct, the anomaly had to be
somewhere close ahead. Paddling quietly, listening carefully, the moonless skies gave few
visual cues. The bone chilling moans had ceased as we drew closer. But what is that grating
sound?"

Rough draft, may scrap it.

Anyway, what is on your radar today?
Some dust-up with the house speaker I hear.

Stop funding ukranazis.

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 10/04/2023 - 7:58am

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 10/04/2023 - 8:34am

A wind powered beach herd.
Dutch artist Theo Jansen Animaris Rex

https://www.strandbeest.com

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Submitted by Lookout on Wed, 10/04/2023 - 10:56am
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Having to water these days...17 days w/o rain with more to come. Not entirely unknown in OCT in the SE.

EO Wilson, the great ant and human society scholar, suggest we too are also influenced by pheromones.

Have a good Autumn day!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Submitted by humphrey on Wed, 10/04/2023 - 11:43am

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 10/04/2023 - 12:23pm
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@humphrey

on jewelry during one of her first shopping trips in Europe. How many houses has Zelensky bought since Biden started shoveling money his way? And for some reason both parties keep voting against doing an audit on the money. After Bernie’s bill to do that he voted to send more anyway.

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Submitted by humphrey on Wed, 10/04/2023 - 1:05pm

@snoopydawg

Expanded view.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 10/04/2023 - 12:20pm
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Feral Finster
October 4, 2023 at 11:26 am
Straight from the CIA:

“The answer to that that the CIA gave in this memo was fascinating. They essentially said the real chance we have to stop the tide of antiwar sentiment is if Barack Obama is elected selected president in 2008 instead of John McCain. And their argument, which turned out to be quite prescient, was that as long as the war was considered to be a right-wing war, in Europe, one sponsored by this swaggering evangelical George Bush, or then the warmonger John McCain, then it would fuel anti-war sentiment in Western Europe. It would continue to turn countries against the war in Afghanistan and ultimately force more countries to withdraw. But if President Obama became the face of the war in Afghanistan, as ended up happening, then Western Europeans who were swooning for Obama – who worshiped Obama as this kind of cosmopolitan sophisticate, this coastal intellect – would start to see the war differently. They would start to see it as a noble war, a liberal war, and that would stem the tide of anti-war sentiment. And that’s exactly what happened.”

https://greenwald.locals.com/upost/4670377/elites-panic-as-anti-war-popu...

We saw how quickly the anti war movement died when Obama decided to regime change Gaddaffi and then went on to destroy the most prosperous country in the Middle East. I got whiplash.

I try to imagine how the dem base would react if Trump was still president and it was him and the republicans pushing the Ukraine war. And remember that Biden and Kamala said that they wouldn’t get the Trump vaccine because they didn’t trust him nor had it been determined to be safe. Would the shitlibs be the anti vaxxers now just because their party is against the jabs? I got whiplash again how quickly they turned from "yeah I’m not taking it either!" to screw body autonomy everyone MUST get it.

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Submitted by MrWebster on Wed, 10/04/2023 - 2:02pm

@snoopydawg I remember very clearly how quickly the antiwar movement died out once Obama was elected. What also died off was left wing talk radio which flourished under Bush. Would include a number of websites like dailykos. Some evolved into present day well off shitlibs like Maddow.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 10/04/2023 - 4:27pm
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who went from Air America and being against the Iraq war to MSDNC when Keith brought her on and then she switched to being silent during Obama’s wars and then joining in the celebration when Trump bombed Syria over an obvious false flag attack and then her joining hands with the intelligence agencies to push Russia Russia. She gets more than $30 million a year to lie to her viewers. I don’t know how she sleeps at night after all the lies she has told.

Then there’s Keith who has just become bat-sh*t looney.

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 10/04/2023 - 2:23pm

Quoting RT plays into Putin's hands – Hillary Clinton

and still failing ..

the former secretary of state and principal architect of the Russiagate conspiracy theory

Yeah, pull out the big erasure and re-write stories,
To Her, it is a scoring game. Points for and points against. Gag

https://www.rt.com/russia/584039-clinton-rt-ukraine-aid/

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 10/04/2023 - 3:46pm

@QMS

is almost comical
disinformation only applies to the bad guys
in the H. Clinton bubble
the good guys can lie, cheat and steal
without consequence. Cause the media sez so.
Double standards much?
Gag

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Wed, 10/04/2023 - 3:18pm
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melting and rewiring the human brain would be that beneficial except in particular specific cases. The fact that, for at least some species, it is part of metamorphosis would not reassure Gregor Samsa and should not reassure us. Can't help but think of Allen "I'm with you in Rockland" Ginsberg and those who flew over cukoos' nests.

be well and have a good one

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 10/04/2023 - 3:33pm

@enhydra lutris

seeing as to where we are going with all of this
the melting part is accomplished by propaganda
and the re-wiring aspect is going digital

Have you had your (FDA approved) brain chip installed yet?

thanks for visiting!

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