Open Thread - 12-06-24 - The Fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse
The Fifth Horseman
Certainly we all have heard of the Four Horseman of the Apocalypse prediction from The Book of Revelations contained in the Bible. First, The White Horseman, thought to be Jesus himself or possibly the anti-Christ, depending on interpretations. Second, the Red Horseman, thought to represent war. Third, the Black Horseman, thought to represent famine. And fourth, the pale Horseman, thought to represent death.
Notice the similarities that runs through the Book of Revelations' narrative of fear? It's the same leitmotif that runs through the course of The Bible, and most religions, if not all of them. Like the other four Horses, the Fifth Horse of the Apocalypse isn't a physical entity, in my humble opinion, it's a psychological construct.
Just as the underlying teachings of the Bible use the elemental emotion of fear as it's prime mover (pun intended), the same motivation is driving the current societal control mechanisms. For the same reasons.
Corruption is out of control in this country, and hand in hand with that corruption is our government, which is also out of control. It's no longer hidden, in fact, it's flaunted in our faces. The executive branch of our government has wrested too much power. The president, by diktat in the form of executive privilege and executive orders, simply waves his signing hand and so it is done. Is there a better example than the recent presidential pardoning of his son and the rumored preemptive pardoning of his partners in crime? Biden might as well pardon the whole government as corrupt as it currently is.
How do the government and the politicians get away with it? In times past the public would be in the streets with torches and pitchforks, seeking retribution for their grievances. The least that could be expected was a good tar and feathering followed by a good running out on a rail. Today, it's shrugged off as business as usual. The body politic has become accustomed to the corruption and unwilling to make any waves. But, why?
Fear.
The results of years of fear are evident. Lock downs, genocide, wars, lawfare, WWIII, cancellations, de-platforming, crime, IRS audit, threats of martial law, talk of civil war, talk of nuclear war, surveillance, troops in the street, climate change, policrisis, pandemics, poison food, murders on the street openly shown on the internet, and I'm sure I'm missing many more. Step out of line and you'll pay the price. It's been non stop for years and it's taking it's toll. We, the body politic have been socially engineered to acquiesce, to not make waves, out of fear of retribution and lives destroyed.
Fear is the Trojan Horse used to enter one's mind as an insidious manipulation of one's core emotion. Make an individual fearful enough and they will bend to the will of the manipulator. It works the same for a society as well. There's plenty of examples from the past to support this supposition. Today, we've been witnessing the largest and most potent psychological operation in all of history, on steroids, and in real time.
If fear is the Trojan Horse and the Fifth Horse of the Apocalypse, then who may be the rider? And to what end?
The Orange Horse
The Fifth Horse of the Apocalypse
Attribution: Wikimedia Commons
(Orange tint added by JtC)
The Rider
We are living on the brink of the apocalypse, but the world is asleep.
--Joel C. Rosenberg
The US is deeply in debt, the whole world knows this. The interest alone has reached one trillion dollars. It can't go on forever. There must be a financial reset in the future and the bankers want that reset to come down in their favor. What's their answer to their conundrum?
CBDCs. The banker's dream. Their problem is how do they implement that dream without alienating too much of the public.
Imagine if you will: Donald Trump riding in on an orange Trojan Horse with a saddle bag full of ideas he wants to try on the American public. One of his ideas, a proposal of extensive tariffs, may backfire and cause financial pain for the poor and middle class, or possibly cause an economic collapse. The potential resulting chaos would be just what the bankers need to leverage the American people into a digital currency. Add programmability to the digital currency equation and it will be hell on earth for the common American citizen.
There are also serious questions about Trump's Strategic Bitcoin Reserve. Is it wise to dump tax payers dollars into what could potentionally become a slush fund? What if several of the large whales, who own a substantial amount of bitcoin, cash out and leave the tax payers holding the bag? As it stands now if the whales wanted to cash out they would most likely do irreparable harm to the bitcoin market, possibly causing a collapse. A Strategic Bitcoin Reserve could give them (the bitcoin whales) cover and an opportunity to sell and realize billions of dollars in profits. Billions of dollars to buy real assets like land and precious metals, at the expense of tax payers. That, my friends, would be a wealth transfer for the ages.
It's surreal the way Trump has reentered the political arena like a prodigal professional wrestler that's returned to defeat his opponents in a Thunderdome cage match. It's even more surreal to watch him so carefully constructed into a mythical being by the political right. It all seems so scripted. And if it is scripted, would he not be the perfect politician to lead the political right into a digital currency? The group that would probably be the most reluctant to do so?
I don't know, it all seems so crazy. But doesn't just about everything seem crazy nowadays?
Caveat emptor.
Comments
Good morning Free Rangers...
hope you enjoyed this walk through my mind.
Though I'm essentially a non believer, I ask you to accept the premise of this figment of my sometimes fertile imagination.
Besides, it's right there biting us all on the ass.
Good morning...
Scaring the bejesus out of people has been a means of control probably as long as humans have existed. To my mind much of the problem is the people are fed lies and propaganda, and so never catch on to the idea they are being played. So many examples come to mind...Russiagate, COVID, almost every war, and so on.
Here's Joe calling out one of the many deep state psyops...
I think this is why C99 is an important go to site to have at least some honest discussion. Many thanks my friend!
I personally have no hope we as a nation are able to impact this petrified disaster of our current purchased and owned government. The upcoming economic collapse will be an opportunity to continue putting us on the neo-fuedalist path to subservience. It will be interesting to see how it unfolds.
Hope all is well in your world. A cold 20F this AM here. Thanks for your thoughtful OT!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
I concur...
using fear is a tactic old as time and has been taken to an exponential level with the advent of the information age, I.E.- the surveillance age.
The unavoidable economic collapse will determine the trajectory of civil society from here on. It will be interesting to see if mankind still has it within itself to be equal and just. I have my doubts.
And there's this:
The reason for my doubts.
It's been pretty chill here in Southeast Texas, but nothing below freezing at night yet, but that's coming next week.
Enjoy your hog heaven in the holler!
The Fifth Horseman is Kaos (Chaos)
at least according to the late great Terry Pratchett. And he doesn't ride a horse, he drives a chariot. (In between rideouts, he's the most efficient milkman in Ankh-Morpork.)
Given that the world is getting more and more chaotic, I think TP was onto something.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Pratchett's conception...
of Chaos as the Fifth Horseman fits neatly in with my premise as well.
Fear and chaos are the tools of despots and this iteration of despots has gone global, so it seems. The despots' tools have been with us for ages but have really been honed in the last few years, especially since the lockdowns. They are learning the parameters in this modern age, much to the chagrin of the common folk.
the good thing about insanity
there is no substance to fear
as it is mostly a convenient delusion
question everything
In today's world...
insanity is a feature not a bug.
Fear can save your life in a fight or flight situation, or cause the mind to close down making one vulnerable to manipulation in the least, and putting one's life in peril at the most. I believe that it's the latter, manipulation and peril, that the masters of chaos have in mind.
Great tunage. I've heard it a bajillion times and never tire of it.
"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."
From FDR's first inaugural address:
The world goes round and round.
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
From the essay above
I have been thinking the same thought -- this all looks like a scripted story, including the assassination attempts. I find it weirdest of all that the Dems and their media cheerleaders have all graciously accepted the validity of the election results after eight consecutive years of Trump-Putin Hate.
We look paranoid when we suggest that American elections are shams. Clever mother fuckers to get us to paint ourselves into this corner.
FDR taught the money changers a lesson and no politician will ever be able to chase them out of the temple again.
We will need to take our own collective action.
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
The Dems...
painted themselves into a corner with their adamant rejection of possible election tampering in the 2020 election, even though Hillary Clinton started that ball rolling with Russia, Russia, Russia. And it hasn't stopped a few Dems from revisiting the Russian blame game again anyway.
What's also a head scratcher is the much predicted riots and protesting bodies in the streets, so far it hasn't happened, but that doesn't preclude it from happening in the future. Perhaps the fear of what has happened to the J6ers and the possibility that it could reciprocate upon themselves. And per my essay, the fear of what Trump may do when and if he takes power again. And yes, I intentionally added the "if" qualifier.
And the beat rolls on.
It amazes me...
how many times down through the centuries that message, in different forms, has been gifted to the tired, the poor, and the huddled masses, as the Statue of Liberty states. It doesn't seem to sink in though. Perhaps every generation has to relearn what the preceding generations learned from their experiences.
As a species that has the ability to ponder the future and look back upon the past, we do appear to be short sighted in that respect.
Work is not
the answer. It has been reduced to mere survival, at least for me. I've finally come to hate my career, a thing that I once did not think possible.
Rant follows.
When there is no longer a chance for achievement or advancement via one's work, and creative energies are stomped out as viciously as one would exterminate an unwanted roach whenever they might manifest, work cannot be looked to to provide mental sustenance. Add to that the fact that every business is balanced on the razor's edge, ready to be extinguished when the inevitable crash comes, and the sure knowledge that when it comes only the occupants of the C-suite will be given a golden kissoff, or any kissoff at all. There'll just be a padlock on the door one morning. Given that, the "value" of work has been reduced to mere paycheck-to-paycheck paranoid squalor, with uncertainty the only thing on the horizon.
In my humble opinion Humanity needs an upside, something to look forward to. What we have now is carefully-curated, unending fear, uncertainty, and Hate, to the exclusion of all else.
Given that reality, it is no surprise at all that many people are celebrating an oligarch getting *smoked* on the sidewalks of New York. That has represented one of the few smiles I've had recently.
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fwc92ojasn65e1...
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
I agree about how the money changers have killed the "job"
In the present context, much of FDR's rhetoric is too anachronistic to shed much light.
I still appreciate the speech.
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
No doubt.
That speech represents happier times, to be sure. FDR would not recognize the America of today.
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
Heh. Good fearful morning Johnny, may you banish all
your own fears (or their ill effects) as successfully as the Pied Piper banished Hamlin's rats. The Pied Piper himself was to be feared because he led the town's kids
astrayaway to who knows where. Of course that didn't happen in a vacuum. He first fulfilled his contract with the city and rid the place of its rats and then they stiffed him of his fee.There are many places one can go with that allegory, many places to ride that horse as it were.
We are, all of us, getting continuously stiffed by currency devaluation via "inflation" and the enshittification of the goods and services we obtain for our hard earned coin. And it is quite possible, and seriously to be feared that they will enslave us all by mandating CBDCs. Sadly, nobody has rid us of our rats and nobody is at all likely to do so. Anybody claiming an intent to do so is almost certainly just another snake-oil salesperson. Is (s)he the sixth horseman, or the true identity of the first, one wonders.
Digression: Death, it seems rides a pale horse, so be it. Cinema presented us with a wonderful take on that in the form of Clint Eastwood's "Pale Rider". Ignoring the specifics of those who got killed, one unmistakable fact is that the Pale Rider and 4th horseman is a preacher. Uh, Huh.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Thanks...
for the expansion on the Pied Piper theme.
The
rats, er, bankers, have proven to be a resilient subset of humans. Perhaps it's the usury that causes them to flourish. One may overturn their tables, only to have them return in perpetuity.Ah, Clint Eastwood's Pale Rider. You've touched upon one of my favorite movies and your description of the "preacher" as the pale horseman is apropos to this discussion.
The Outlaw Josey Wales is my favorite though. "Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms." don't ya' know.
Read it and weep
.
“Steadfast Defender 2024” this year, simulating an attack on Russia
It gets even worse….
Meanwhile Russia has been fighting and learning about modern warfare and has been training and rotating their troops in Ukraine for 3 years. They have defeated the biggest army in Europe and broken down the intense defenses that Ukraine built up for over 8 years. Then they defeated the 2nd army and the 3rd and now has the Ukraine army running away. Plus Russia has a lot of new weapons that NATO has no defense against.
But seriously what were those guys doing with their penises that they got frostbite?
And just how much did it cost to send 100 jeeps from Britain to Poland let alone the 600 that were meant to be sent? And who got the money?
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
My guess is they were taking a pee outdoors in a cold wind
That would probably be enough to do it.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
That gives a whole new meaning...
to the phrase "Don't piss in the wind".
That reminds me...
of how King Henry and the English defeated the French at the battle of Agincourt.
Stay on the berm
This is one disadvantage of heavier tanks. Sometimes even then, the shoulder of the berm or road used is weak, and fails. Then the tank slips down into the mud anyway. It's important to have tank retrievers with enough power to pull them out. Naturally, the whole time that operation is going on you're a sitting duck and the roadway is usually blocked. Under these conditions, even small 4 wheel drive tactical vehicles (HUMV?) get stuck.
語必忠信 行必正直
Again, I agree with you about 1933 being a happier time
usefewersyllables but I have to note the irony of considering the pit of the Great Depression -- when actual fascism was taking command of much of Europe and Stalin was the Boss of the Soviet Union -- a happy time. IT'S ALL RELATIVE.
Yet man is born unto trouble as the sparks fly upward. JOB 5:7
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
TPTB are masters
at using fear to manipulate the masses. They've been doing it since the dawn of civilization. Same as it ever was.
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
Step out of line, the man come and take you away
I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.
That's a lesson...
my generation learned the hard way. Protesters were beaten, jailed and even killed.
I'm surprised a lot of my generation has forgotten those lessons and are now calling for those very same things to happen to the current generation. I guess that's a testament to the veracity of fear.
Here is a breakdown of the Lavrov Carlson interview which
was posted yesterday for those that do not have time to watch all of it.
If you click on "show more" you will have the ability to access the links.
RT has the transcript
I can’t link from phone.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
LOL