Numbers of Delegates Still to be Assigned

Not much to say other than just to echo this guy. . . .

And a Markos comment:

And to keep a sense of humor:

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@Wally that shows Bernie and Biden are neck and neck in the state. And the poll was taken before Warren had dropped out so I think that will give us a bump too. Bernie's been running a lot of ads here today too so it looks like he's thinking Mo. is winnable. I keep saying I'm not sending his campaign any more money till the general but here I go again digging out my credit card.

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@burnt out

Not much, just a show of solidarity.

TV ads cost so damn much.

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@burnt out
Every time the DNC tries to pull a fast one, I defer some expense and send Bernie a little more.

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First and foremost, the 13% figure is for proportion of young (18-29 years old) voters among total voters that turned out to vote on election day. In other words, 13% of total voters that turned out were between 18-29 years in age. It does NOT mean that only 13% of registered young voters turned out to vote – which is what the pundits and channels are trying to spin.

Further, the figures were based on exit polls, which only included in-person votes on election day, and not mail-in ballots or early in-person voting, something younger people with tough jobs are more likely to do, than, say, the over-65 population which is freer to turn out in larger numbers on election day. Early voting is a majority of votes in California (65% as of 2018) and a good chunk in Texas, the two biggest states.

The above is from this article right here.

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If those delegates were reported, it would ruin the establishment narrative that Biden leads. We can't have that.

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I just submitted the following post to Sanders for President on Reddit, showing that Bernie clearly leads the popular vote count in states that voted Blue last time (projecting forward for all the underreporting in Utah, California and Colorado). They have refused to post this submisssion, stating that it's not really about Bernie. Wow!

"I just did a calculation of the popular vote of the states that voted Blue in 2016. Of those states, based on the counts currently reported, Biden is ahead by about 75,000 votes. But Bernie's states of California, Utah and Colorado are all significantly underreported (DNC seems to always be slow where he's winning.) If one projects the results out in those states by current percentages, then Bernie is ahead by about 11,000 votes in the states that voted Blue in last election. But I suspect that's an understatement of his lead, because, of course, the precincts left to be counted tend to have overwhelmingly voted for Bernie -- and despite the serious voter suppression that occurred in Nevada and CA. So Biden's ahead in the Red states -- and appears to be ahead overall only because of the underreporting of votes in states that Bernie carried. I think Bernie's campaign has to take on the issue of preserving our democracy and election rigging right now. This is reminiscent of 2016 - when Hilary used the primary votes in the Deep South to argue for her dominance in the primaries -- and then couldn't carry any of those states in the general election"

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@MsDidi

https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/

And Kossacks 4 Sanders: https://www.reddit.com/r/Kossacks_for_Sanders/

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to be allocated, and the matter of the actual youth vote numbers, why isn't the Bernie team mentioning this and frequently in their Twitter outreach? Nothing so far on the delegate distribution, and maybe one mention or retweet about the youth vote, according to a sampling of Bernie campaign/major online supporter Twitter feeds that I've seen.

If there is some there there, I would think his camp would want to highlight these matters, shout it to the rooftops, as it would give hope and also undercut this growing dreadful sense of Biden inevitability.

Currently Faiz and Sirota are concentrating heavily on Biden's awful previous trade policies, his SS/Med calls to limit increased benefits, and his mental condition, all of which of course are very relevant.

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@wokkamile

Bernie emphasized the remaining delegate count being likely to put him ahead of Biden during his interview with Maddow. He was sorta taken aback with her throwing that 13% youth vote figure at him but came out of it okay. I mean they want to bog everybody down with beancounting which only confuses most people and leads nowhere. Better to focus like Sirota et al. are doing.

Hey, I dealt with the delegate and youth vote issues -- and I wasn't original. I "stole" that info from other Berners discussing those issues. And I don't have a hotline to his campaign like some folks used to (?) assume. Yep, and I recall the days not all that long ago when you and I used to tustle about Warren, you Warren plant you/s.

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@Wally Warren that issued from my flying fingers long ago? In the immortal words of Chad, and I believe it was, Jeremy: But that was yesterday -- and yesterday's gone.

It was iirc the dog days of summer, and the heat was getting to me in my darkened, un-air conditioned office on the 8th floor overlooking downtown. Lefty Liz hadn't yet pivoted, unwisely, to the center, and thereby become just another slick pol trying painfully to get elected. In addition, it made for more varied and interesting conversations here, or at least that was the intent. These are my reasons, along with the usual excuses about a suboptimal upbringing likely badly distorting my political compass, and I stand firmly behind them.

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@wokkamile

I do believe that if Warren hadn't attacked Bernie along IdPol lines, if she stuck to defending M4A, if she attacked Biden on any of a number of issues, she might have wound up being the nominee. She phlucked up and has no one to blame but herself . . . but of course she's blaming Bernie and snake emojis, etc. I think most folks here saw through her from the get go. She couldn't help but do the things she did because she was and opportunist / careerist all along. Not so good at it though -- unless she winds up victorious as a brokered candidate bridging the divide between two completing factions of the party at loggerheads with each other come the convention. I suppose even stranger and worst things could happen. In any event, I'll have nothing to do with her from here on in. I really have no reason to think she ever thought of endorsing Bernie after that Maddox interview last night. I asked you elsewhere here, too, today: Did you vote for Bernie in CA or Tulsi???? AT least one querilous mind wants to know.

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@Wally further extend the sad story of the Warren campaign: she is indeed an opportunist, but didn't appreciate (or wasn't aware) that the time to pivot to the center was after she got the nom, not before. First get the nom is a crafty strategy even my loyal canine Rolly is familiar with.

Not to worry: she won't be the pick of any brokered convention, not someone who barely got any delegates and who failed miserably to finish in the top 2 in her home state. They might as well pick Kamala. Doesn't matter -- unless Bernie comes back big in MI next week, a brokered no longer seems in the cards.

And no, I haven't lost any sleep over her departure from the race. Been too busy cursing Biden and stupid Dem voters, as well as buying out all the remaining hand sanitizers from local stores and online.

Re my vote, as I noted a while ago here and in a few posts a week ago/earlier this week, I mailed in my ballot for Bernie. Tulsi would have been my second choice.

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