Monday OT: 12/07/2020 National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day (United States)
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Pearl Harbor
National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day (United States)
When I was a kid, that was simply Pearl Harbor day and it was arguably a bigger deal. (VJ day was absolutely a much, much bigger deal back then). Because it is an official day of remembrance, the US flag should be flown at half-staff. Of course, a great percentage of those displayed by the average citizen are simply nailed or stapled to a stick and since that violates "flag ettiquette" and the "Flag Code" in many ways already, who cares, Just so long as everybody knows that you are a True Patriot(tm) That goes triple for all those who fly them from their car or the bed of their pick-em-up truk.
(Sorry, didn't plan on going off on that tangent. That's the problem with letting folks like me write stream-of-consciousness material.)
So, December 7, 1941, 78 years ago today, an unprovoked attack on the US by a foreign nation that led us into war. The last such attack and the last such war. Damn, it's been a long time, especially insofar as we've been involved in wars of one type or another continuously ever since. Maybe that's why it's not such a big deal any more.
On this day in history:
43 BCE – Marcus Tullius Cicero was assassinated in Formia.
1732 – The Royal Opera House opened at Covent Garden, London, England.
1776 – Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de Lafayette, arranged to enter the US military
1787 – Delaware became the first state to ratify the United States Constitution.
1842 – First concert of the New York Philharmonic
1922 – The Parliament of Northern Ireland voted to remain a part of the UK
1932 – Albert Einstein was granted an American visa.
1941 – The Imperial Japanese Navy carried out a surprise attack on the US Pacific Fleet and its defending Army and Marine air forces at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.
1949 – The Government of the Republic of China moved from Nanking to Taipei, Taiwan.
1965 – Pope Paul VI and Patriarch Athenagoras I simultaneously revoked mutual excommunications that had been in place since 1054.
1972 – Apollo 17 was launched. The crew took the photograph known as The Blue Marble as they left the Earth.
1995 – The Galileo spacecraft arrived at Jupiter
2017 – The Australian Marriage Amendment Bill to legally recognize same-sex marriages passed
Born this day in:
I've learned that life is very tricky business: Each person needs to find what they want to do in life and not be dissuaded when people question them.
~~Eli Wallach
I never dreamed I would do Westerns. ~~ Eli Wallach
903 – Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi, astronomer and author
967 – Abu-Sa'id Abul-Khayr, Sufi poet
1598 – Gian Lorenzo Bernini, Sculptor and painter
1643 – Giovanni Battista Falda, architect and engraver
1637 – Bernardo Pasquini, organist and composer
1810 – Theodor Schwann, physiologist and biologist
1823 – Leopold Kronecker, mathematician and academic
1863 – Pietro Mascagni, composer and conductor
1873 – Willa Cather, novelist, short story writer, and poet
1892 – Stuart Davis, painter and academic
1905 – Gerard Kuiper, astronomer and academic
1910 – Louis Prima, singer, songwriter, trumpet player, and actor
1915 – Leigh Brackett, author and screenwriter
1915 – Eli Wallach, actor
1924 – Mary Ellen Estill. mathematician
1928 – Noam Chomsky, linguist and philosopher
1928 – Mickey Thompson, race car driver
1931 – Allan B. Calhamer, game designer, created Diplomacy (
1931 – Bobby Osborne, bluegrass singer and musician
1935 – Armando Manzanero, musician, singer and composer
1941 – Melba Pattillo Beals, journalist and activist
1942 – Harry Chapin, singer, songwriter, and guitarist (
1943 – Nick Katz, mathematician and academic
1947 – Anne Fine, author
1948 – Gary Morris, singer, songwriter, and actor
1949 – Tom Waits, singer, songwriter, guitarist, and actor
1950 – Ron Hynes, singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1958 – Tim Butler, bass player and songwriter
1963 – Barbara Weathers, singer
1966 – Louise Post, singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1976 – Sunny Sweeney, singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1977 – Dominic Howard, drummer and producer
1979 – Sara Bareilles, singer, songwriter, pianist, and actress
1987 – Aaron Carter, singer, songwriter, dancer, and actor
1998 – Tony Yike Yang, pianist
Died this day in:
The sinews of war are infinite money.
The safety of the people shall be the highest law.
~~ Marcus Tullius Cicero
43 BC – Cicero, philosopher, lawyer, and politician
1562 – Adrian Willaert, composer and educator
1680 – Peter Lely, painter
1683 – Algernon Sidney, philosopher and politician
1817 – William Bligh, admiral, politician, and world class small boat sailor
1902 – Thomas Nast, cartoonist
1970 – Rube Goldberg, cartoonist, sculptor, and author
1975 – Thornton Wilder, novelist and playwright
1978 – Alexander Wetmore, ornithologist and paleontologist
1979 – Cecilia Payne-Gaposchkin, astronomer and astrophysicist
1985 – Robert Graves, poet, novelist, critic
1998 – Martin Rodbell, biochemist and endocrinologist
2004 – Jerry Scoggins, singer and guitarist
2013 – Chick Willis, singer and guitarist
2015 – Gerhard Lenski, sociologist and academic
2015 – Hyron Spinrad, astronomer and academic
2016 – Greg Lake, musician
Holidays, Holy Days, Festivals, Feast Days, Days of Recognition, and such:
International Civil Aviation Day
Letter Writing Day
National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day (United States)
National Cotton Candy Day
Music goes here, iirc, well, With apologies 
Pietro Mascagni
Louis Prima
Armando Manzanero
Harry Chapin
Tom Waits
Sara Bareilles
Tony Yike Yang
Chick Willis
Greg Lake
It's an open thread, so do your thing
Comments
good morning...
My Mom was at Pearl Harbor that day. The women and kids went to a lava tube cave and watched the carnage.
She's the older girl...
and a clipping from the time...
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Good morning Lookout. Interesting personal history
and an interesting choice of hiding place. Thanks. She must have had a lot of interesting stories to tell.
be well and have a good one.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Actually, she was mum about it...
I think she was traumatized, cause as a kid I asked about it, but she just didn't want to talk about it.
She is still alive, pushing 90, and sick of the COVID isolation.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
My sister was born in Hawaii
Before it was a "state". Dad as a Lieutenant in the Air Force (Korean War), never got around to making it legal, so they just changed her birthdate. Boy was she crushed to find out her birth sign was off whenever she had to do the social security number / drivers license thing at 16.
I really wonder if Japan had a legitimate gripe as to the spreading empire of the US into their traditional waters?
Anyway, today is my wife's birthdate. Her Mom wanted to call her Pearly May, but they settled on Kari.
Hope y'all have a good moan day.
question everything
ask the "Manchurians"
from what I've read the Japanese were as interested in empire as us. They used a phony "
bay of pigsGulf of Tonkin" type episode to grab part of China. And that was 10 years before Pearl Harbor.So....two empires colliding, neither of which could be considered utopia.
I worked with a man from Nanjing
they still remember the Japanese atrocities. Enlisted men were told they could rape any Chinese woman they wanted. Officers had contests to see who could behead the most civilians.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Good evening QMS, Happy Birthday to your wife.
Japan had some legit gripes, but was also out empire building herself, so a classic clash of empires.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
What were your grandparents doing in Hawaii at the time?
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
in the army...
stationed there. Survived to retire.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Ah, that makes sense.
My parents didn’t do a lot of talking about their experiences either. And being that both of them lived in Hamburg and Berlin during WWII, I’m sure they had a lot of stories to tell. Shame. It would’ve been a piece of family history I would’ve wanted to write about.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Btw, thanks for sharing the picture.
I’m always fascinated by old family photos.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
morning el
et al
Well, there is a study now on what we already knew.
Biological diversity evokes happiness: More bird species in their vicinity increase life satisfaction of Europeans as much as higher income
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/12/201204110246.htm
A bird in the bush is worth two bucks in the hand. Whoot!
Have a good one, all and take good care.
Edit to add: Dry autumn in Germany forces Rhine shippers to cut loads
https://apnews.com/article/business-europe-germany-13bd67d76986ff943abaa...
Das ist nicht gut
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good morning magi. Thanks for the info and the link.
Our yard is awash in birds, and our general neighborhood too, which does greatly add to the local quality of life except for one couple.
I've not heard of any decapitated Rhine river cruise ships, so perhaps they are being much more wary this year, good to know. Wonder if the problem extends to France and, if so, what it portends for their nuke plants.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Morning
Our eviction crisis is looming this month. We can prevent the worst from happening.
This BAR article lays it out: https://www.blackagendareport.com/how-prevent-40-million-people-being-ev...
It can be done. All we need to do is do it.
The full article is a good one and worth a read.
Thanks for the OT el. Take care.
Good morning rand. I question the use of the word WE.
Unless WE are willing to launch a nationwide strike, WE are powerless. TPTB might indulge in rent subsidies for any massive corporations "leasing" their facilities thanks to long ago "sale and leaseback" tax avoidance schemes, but they ain't gonna help everyday people.
The Great Obama, for example, bailed out the banks directly rather than bailing out homeowners who couldn't cover their mortgages, and his protege is now stepping up to the plate, not to hit, but to feast.
be well and have a good one.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Good morning, el ~~
No truer words have ever been spoken. Stick to your dreams, people.
Enjoy the day!
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Good morning RA. Eli, and, of course, Tuco,
were both underrated great philosophers.
be well and have a good one.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
G'mornin', EL. My wife and I were
actually in attendance at the USS Arizona Memorial on the 50th anniversary of Pearl Harbor Day. It was a most unbelievably solemn scene, with the few remaining survivors and their families, and a large contingent of Shinto monks and a handful of Japanese survivors (including some of the hibakusha) present as well. We joined the long line of people waiting to pay their respects, and consigned orchid blossoms to the waters of the harbor, with the names of both US and Japanese servicemen who lost their lives that day attached. We later listened to several survivors tell their stories (including one Japanese pilot through an interpreter), once the formal ceremony had finished. It was all incredibly moving, and I'm very glad that we had the privilege. We hope to be able to attend the observation at Hiroshima one day as well.
It astonishes me that 28 years have elapsed since then, and that we are still so ready to send young men and women into whatever meatgrinder beckons on any given day. I shouldn't be astonished, I suppose. We as a species appear to be incapable of learning.
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
Good morning ufs. Sounds like a wonderful experience.
Hmans are capably of learning, but we always seem to learn the wrong things.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
An acquaintance of ours
is a retired Navy diver who performed some of the honor guard duties at the Arizona for a few years. 377 crewmen survived the attack. A number of those lived out their full postwar lives, and then chose to have their remains interred on the ship with their shipmates after their passing- some 45, I think. The honor guard divers would enter the hull of the vessel, and leave the urns containing those remains in a place that only they know. The survivor's name would then be engraved on the marble of the memorial with those of their shipmates.
Apparently, the last survivor who wished to be interred aboard died in 2019, and he was indeed the very last: the other 2 or 3 remaining survivors have indicated that they have other wishes. I'm sad that that era has reached its end.
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
Greg Lake and Tom Waites
Two super musicians. For the holidaze...
question everything
Good morning QMS, thanks for the music.
be well and have a good one.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Pearl Harbor Day used to be a big deal
around here, what with the battleship and all. The original ship's bell is at the university and stuff like that, examples here, here, here.
YouTube channel World War Two is promising a 5-hour Pearl Harbor minute-by-minute marathon today, E.01 is here:
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Joh2BXPsrXs width:500 height:300]
E.02 has begun:
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm39s7ry6rk width:500 height:300]
We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.
Good morning Az. I'd wager it ws a very big deal indeed.
The San Diego of my youth, of course, had a huge Navy presence exacerbated by beaucoups Marines,, so it was very big there too.
be well and have a good one.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Bob Dylan has sold his entire music catalog to Universal Music
for a price of around 300 million dollars. What does that mean? He has a supposed net worth of 200 million dolars already, is 79 years old, what does he need the extra 300 million dollars for?
No disrespect for him at all. His poetry I liked the most. I just don't understand what this deal with Universal Music means.
He said:
I think he has done exactly that in his life. So now I want to know what he will do with all that cash? Is that deal a sign of noble intentions somehow?
Please explain, I am such a dummy.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Good morning mimi. I have no answer and no guesses.
Saw the headlines on that but read no further, figuring that he wouldn't give any explanation. Let's just hope he does some good with the funds, though, arguably, he erned them and can do whatever he pleases.
be well and have a good one.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Money doesn't talk, it swears...
Is my favorite Dylan line about money.
https://www.bobdylan.com/songs/its-alright-ma-im-only-bleeding/
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
ouch ... me is an old lady ... hmmm...
I read through the whole lyrics you posted in your link. Read them three times. It has a lot in it I would want to post back for you, but it is too heavy. Thank you for posting them. The guy was a real genius and deserves love and respect for his life's work.
OK, now I cant resist and quote back at you:
I risk to not be able to stop quoting from the lyrics. So, I better stop.
But now I come to my real question:
What I had in mind was more meant this way: Are there negative legal consequences for the heirs (his kids), if he had not sold the rights and cashed in?
All so sad, I remember him singing with Joan Baez, many many years ago.
https://www.euronews.com/live
he got a bad deal (as I read it)
I saw an article about this today. Stevie Nicks recently sold her catalog for $100 million. If that's so then Dylan getting $300 million is a fantastic bargain for Universal. I'd have thought $1 billion.
Of course these are insane numbers. But so is the net worth of the guy who started Spotify, noted service that rips off performers. Too much money is a symptom of the inequality of the system. A small group of people get huge amounts while a very large group of people struggle to get by.
Somehow I think it ties in with large companies getting all the "small business" relief funds. The big fish swallows up all around it.
Meanwhile let's imagine the young Dylan's attitude towards this sale.
I'll try to imagine that, but all I have is an image with
nothiing on it.
https://www.euronews.com/live
I would have more respect if he made those songs public domain.
His gift to his fans. Even at 1% interest you can live very well on $200 million.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Why does this happen, just why?
Israel justifies murdering a Palestinian child by saying its sniper used a “low muzzle velocity”
By Jonathan Ofir December 7, 2020
On Friday, the Israeli military killed Palestinian teenager Ali Abu Alia, and have attempted to justify it by saying it did not use “live fire” against protesters. Not only did it use lethal force, but it was aided and abetted by the U.S.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
No good reason
Slaughter for the sake of proving 'superiority'.
When will it end? Immoral wars have no other
purpose. The brainwashing of soldiers has consequences.
Whenever they get out of their fantasy power trips.
To the point, see suicide rates of war vets.
Damage for the sake of the empires. Not good.
question everything
In April of 2019 the wife and I went to walk for vets
it was actually about supporting the troops with suicide prevention in mind. At the time of the walk they believed that at least 20-25 vets were committing suicide daily, god only knows what that number might look like today
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Good morning gg. QMS has the overall answer and
all I can really add is "because they can".
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
"Because they can"
might be good enough for them but there are many more of us than them and it's time for this shit to end one way or another.
have a good one back at ya and stay safe
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Justifying Wars
Only three wars where Americans fought could an argument be made that they were justified:
American Revolutionary War
The Civil War
WWII
Every other conflict we’ve been a part of is, IMHO. U.S sponsored savagery commodified by the Masters of War.
But, hey, who cares what I think, right? The Masters of War are deliriously happy taxing me to finance their profitable plunder while providing only the slightest appearance of representation and which is getting slighter by each election. I will say this for Trump. He sure made making the case for our dubious electoral representation front and center.
Thanks for this mornings OT, EL.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Good evening Anja. Thanks for reading.
If you ren't getting represented, it is your fault for not being rich enough.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Right?
Well, when I make my first million, I'll let you know if things have changed. Hahaha!
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
I wonder.
Do Japanese call WW2 the "War of Round Eye Aggression" like some US southerners still call the Civil War the "War of Yankee Aggression"?
IIRC they call it "The Pacific war"
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Hi EL, and all!
Wetmore was a big one. I have one of his Panama books, the one with the antbirds, I forget which of the four it was.
Did you see Wisdom the 67 or so year old Laysan Albatross is back on Midway nesting again this year? Another egg! Chan Robbins ('66 Golden Guide) originally banded it!
Chapin was an incredible songwriter, and what a voice Greg Lake had. Saw him a couple times.
Seeing any interesting birds around?
We have some Green Jay visiting, once every week or two for a couple days, just five minutes a visit, for 7 weeks now. Today it was four in the group. The drought in south Texas is so bad they are pushing up on the Edwards Plateau. They fill their gular pouch with sunflower seeds, and the days they visit often stop by a second time late to visit the birdbath.
Hope all is well! Play it safe!
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
crows are the sky cops
have noticed lately whenever they caw and flutter, there is a hawk somewhere nearby.
Kinda like the way the little birds squwak when they see a cat prowling around.
Warning their brethren of potential danger.
Birds are fun to watch and listen to.
question everything
That's a classic birder's alert call, also if they are diving
repeatedly on a tree. Flocks of smaller birds will do it too,, especially to some of the smaller owls, it's called "mobbing". Whenever you see or hear it going on, if convenient, you should stop and check out the action, there's usually somebody interesting around.
be well and have a good one.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Good evening dysto, didn't catch that about the albatross.
Ant birds, there's a maddening subject. In some places it's almost like they have an ant+everything except maybe chickadees and gulls. Wild exaggeration, I know, but ...
No real unusual birds here, hermit thrush and spotted towhee are latest temporary additions to the flock of residents. I've got a couple I never see and can't id by ear that are buggine me, but that's about it.
be well and have a good one.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --