Midnight Mulling - The Exodus Begins or SeniorLinux .001

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This is about Linux, and regret, and re-creation. Eventually. But first some essay house-opening. And some mulling. I sort of stumbled onto a spot by accident (after midnight and open to comments) so there wasn't much of an introduction.

So first you. Open means open. Context is not required. An introduction from you is not required, but you certainly are welcome to introduce yourself. Most of you (it's being written on the first day of Spring, 2016, for next day publishing) have a history over at another site. So please, share your common history; but please feel free to build a new history as well.

Next me: I have aphasia. A stroke. And I write. What happens during a stroke is that parts of the brain die. Sorry for sounding grim, but "passing away" is not in my personal vocabulary. This is not due to the aphasia. Before my stroke, I did not use the phrase, "passing away" either. I preferred the word, "die." Simple. Only three letters. And it rhymes with other words that end an "I.'

Words and phrases that end with a strong "A" already have plenty of candidates in the rhyme business. While "I" is already a difficult word. Especially the word, "I" - it feels ego-heavy. Or I - or even I - well, as I say, it's difficult. And the phrase "passing away" is personal. And cultural. Which turns into a situation where the use of "die" feels almost like an attack. It isn't meant as an attack. And if it starts to feel like an attack, say so.

Words are important. And when words are killed, the killing should not be done lightly. And if the heap of killed words grows high, the decay starts to be noticed.

Like, "a serialized novel here on Tuesdays at 8 PM" that gets quoted below. Aphasia kills cells. Including that part of the brain that used to house a serialized novel. Guess what. It was going away anyhow. And - thanks to modern computing and the Internet - I can reconstruct the serialized novel. Or, I can reconstruct the serialized novel using my brain. You see, the brain has connections. Connections that might have been unnoticed by me, but for the action of the stroke.

Note: I do not advise having a stroke. Some of the results are devastating. Or at least irritating. Speech, for example. Reading my words will give one impression of me; listening to my words said by me may give a different impression. A different impression of me; and a different impression of my words. But looking back 2 1/2 years ago, well ... what you just read was me now, March 20, 2016 (for you, March 21, 2016).

Below, is the first of a series called, "SeniorLinux" - this was .001. If things go well, I'll add the other chapters. And if you need more "Midnight Mulling" there were two sections dated March 20, 2016 - the second one is really long - if you watch the videos. Which might be interesting. So now on to the past.
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(originally posted on dailykos.com)
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SeniorLinux .001

In a comment in another diary, I posted:

I've founded a new dkos group that may prove useful...to people concerned about computer safety. It's called "Senior Linux." The primary goal, if the group ever gets going, is to develop an operating system that's friendly to senior citizens. From large fonts and guides to things like Medicare and social security all the way to maybe a "Where Did I Likely Leave My Glasses" app.

But a secondary benefit is that, after probably basing the first distro on another distro, I'd like to do a "Linux From Scratch" based distro where everything is user compiled. Probably wouldn't keep out a well-funded, really determined adversary, but it might make them work at it.

Page down below the orange anti-macassar if you'd like to see more.

Talking about computers and operating systems on dailykos is like talking about water with all the other fishes. We all use computers and operating systems to get here. After all, if you are reading this online, you managed to get here. So why change what works? And since talking about change to older folks is supposedly pointless, why bother?

Why? Because I don't think it's pointless at all. And I'm no spring chicken. There are two negative words in paragraph two already. And paragraph two is where tradition (or at least my tenth-grade composition teacher) says the usual festivus-like airing of grievances is supposed to go. But let's skip that for now and get right to how Linux works.

My favorite TV mini-series so far is the BBC production of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. Even the opening and closing credits are worth watching. (In fact, for some people, that may be the best part.) And those of you that have seen the opening of a TTSS episode may recall the striptease of the nesting-Russian-dolls sequence:
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjelahKv_Lc]
That opening sequence is Linux. Rather, it's a GNU-Linux distribution. What's GNU, you may ask? What's a distribution? Is that the same as a distro? (yes). Patience grasshopper. All that will come in due time. But first, let us start at the end. If you are able to view the video you will note that the final doll is faceless and small and at the center of everything. In GNU-Linux the faceless center doll is the Linux kernel. The kernel is not GNU-Linux. It is Linux.

It is OK to use Linux to refer to more than the kernel, and most of the time that's what most people do. So shall we, but that's for later. Right now, it's time to bring the newcomers up to speed.

Where it began: Linus Torvalds and UNIX had a baby and it's name was rock and roll. Oops wrong cultural reference. :::Re-boot::: UNIX, like many cool things, started at The Phone Company. And C was there. C was the midwife that delivered baby UNIX. C is a programming language. It also started at The Phone Company.

C back then looked like this:

main()
{
printf("hello, world\n");
}

Later, C put on weight and now looks more like this:

#include

int main(void)
{
printf("hello, world\n");
}

Both programs do the same thing: show the words, "Hello world" on something. C takes things literally and the actual display would be:

hello, world

No caps. No punctuation at the end.

The cursor, assuming the target is a computer terminal screen, will be blinking on the next line thanks to the "\n " after the word, "World".

The good news is that if you can get a "Hello World" to run successfully in any programming language, you now know that programming can be done on your computer. But you don't have to.

Back to Linux. How do you pronounce it?
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK0xXFZtJ8Q]
If you can't view the 6 second clip, try rhyming the first part of the word with "Sin" and then, placing a pretty much equal emphasis on both syllables, proceed from there. It'll be close enough. For us at least.

"Us" refers to the dailykos community. Specifically to the Senior Linux diaries and discussions of Senior Linux on dailykos. Or as we hep cats say, " dkos ," when typing in jargon.

Jargon is one of the reasons I wanted to do this whole Senior Linux thing on dkos. Or at least to start here. Now, one of the particular strengths of dkos is that the topic starter generally gets to set some ground rules for the subsequent discussion.

So:

The first Senior Linux ground rule on jargon is that it's OK to use it: but you ought to let people know what you're talking about. Not in every case, like the 'hep cat' reference above. And not every time for the serious stuff. But at least now and then.

The second rule of jargon at Senior Linux is that if you use it, you own it. So if a reader asks you what you're talking about, you should explain--politely. If they still don't understand, you should try again. Perhaps using a different analogy. Or another context. But please, please, please don't tell a non-trolling questioner to RTFM.

"RTFM" stands for, "Read The Fine Manual." Or, "Read The Free Manual." Or maybe, "Read The Friendly Manual." Used in that spirit, sometimes it's OK. Sometimes though, there's a different meaning attached to the letter, "F" of RTFM. A noobie (that's a newcomer) visiting a hardcore Linux developers' discussion group will often be told, "RTFM." And it's that 'different' meaning that's intended. With an "Ing" ending. Hopefully this will be friendlier place.

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I posted a comment about Senior Linux in a recent diary about malware, and got a couple of responses. One commenter expressed a wish to see a "Tech Illiterate Linux" and to be able to run all their Windows programs in Linux. My answer:

There is WINE ... And it is supposed to let you run some Windows programs in Linux.

If I do post something about linux at dkos, it would probably be a multi-part series or a weekly. What nights would be most likely to attract people? I post a serialized novel here on Tuesdays at 8 PM and it has a rather small (but friendly and cherished) following. So much for my Tuesdays-waiting-to-be-filled-by-something-for-the-masses theory.

Another comment asked how to help and expressed a wish for a simpler Linux. I said in reply:

Senior Linux - Not Just for Seniors ... But senior-friendly. That would mean a distro that can run on the type of equipment that a person on a fixed income is likely to have. And with default typefaces (and icons) that are reasonably large but not "Fun With Dick and Jane" large. Good contrast, but not bleak nor garish.

"Simpler" is more difficult to define. Sometimes what looks simple is elegant and powerful. And difficult to program. But sometimes what looks simple is simply lacking in features. Often, if you're lucky, a program or an OS will have a 'magic trick' that lets one do all sorts of things once one knows the trick. That sort of program tends to have a fairly steep learning curve at first. But things get easier and easier because you've started to get into the programmer's head.

As for a link and helping, I'm looking to get ideas as to what day of the week would be good for people.

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So what do you think? The only real cost is time. And it could be fun.

Are you interested?

PS, That \ is called a backslash. And since you are already programming every time you post a comment, if you try to quote that part of the diary (or if I try to edit the diary after previewing), your results will not be a \ - you have to cheat a little by typing & # 9 2 ; only squished together where you want the backslash to display.
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Back to the present (2016). When I first formatted the chapter, getting the C example to display properly was tricky. But caucus99percent.com handles it smoothly. Congratulations. As for SeniorLinux chapters, let's see if chapter .001 is welcome. I hope it does. But that is up to you. The audience is king and queen - whatever your favorite meaning is.

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"max user connections" exceeded.

That geekiness aside, I hope this finds you
well tonight, jabney.

King and queen means chess to me, so I
guess that's at least some of your audience.

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Only connect. - E.M. Forster

Only when you read this blog? What operating system are you using? I'm running Windows 10 (Home) on this particular computer, and no exception errors for me.

King and Queen fans of all types are welcome. For example: [video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ9rUzIMcZQ]

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running v. 4.1 of their OS, which means my
phone, at almost three years old is "ancient."
But, starting at some $550 to get the latest,
I'm trying to get all I can out of it. Especially
as Google has now announced that phone
software will only be supported/updated
for two years after each release.

The hardware/software racket.

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...android-x86-4.4-r5 is supposed to let you run KitKat on an Intel computer. I think it works, but the testing environment (Oracle VM Virtual Box) is new to me, and android is new to me, so is it me or is it the software?

There are a lot of ~$100 android pads (made in China and direct shipped) so maybe consider one of them - if you are willing to lose your ~$100 if things don't work out.

As for me, I'm waiting for the Raspberry 3 to drop in price. At the moment though, the "$35" computer is selling for over $50 - even the picture shows a $35 official sticker. (Note: the Raspberry 3 will not work for you until you add some extras, but still, not bad.)

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I see I didn't answer you completely. I was
getting the error messages when trying to
access the site, not your blog.

See the last line of Shahryar's comment;.he
was apparently getting the same message,
whatever he's running.

As for phones, Android released v. 6.+ last
fall. My uber geeky coder nephew bought
one at a steep price when it first came out
to get a full two years of support, patches,
and updates - and ended up thoroughly
pissed. When I remarked they were
releasing beta versions these days, he
exploded that it was nowhere
near a beta version, that whole modules
were missing ... to be provided at some
indeterminate future "upgrade."

And so it goes. Technology is a racket.

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With Android, I have only started to learn it - so don't take my word on it - but it does seem that the Android 4 gets some love, despite the fact that 5 and 6 are out. Don't know why. Maybe like Windows 7.1 and even XP3 still get some love: IN SPECIFIC SITUATIONS.

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I once saw Stephen Hawking on a corner in San Francisco, where he was waiting for the light to change. I don't recall anyone with him. As I remember, he was quite capable of getting himself where he wanted to go. From what you write I see you're similar.

By the way, it's funny that so many programming languages start out with how to print "Hello World". I think that's the first thing I learned in the FORTRAN days and then again when I learned Pascal. Don't remember a thing about them now but they were wildly useful then, especially Pascal, which enabled me to manipulate data efficiently.

(also...getting those error messages. I think we need a mega-ultra-gigantic server)

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I know about used workstations, but servers are a different dish of fish.

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I haven't a clue what you're talking about but I liked reading it. Thank you.

4 coronary events here and 3 stents, and CAD, not to mention the rest of the failing plant.

[[[[[hug]]]]] (That's the manly kind)

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...but I liked reading it."

And that is high praise indeed.

thanks, john

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Not completely on point. After being with the same hosting company for nineteen years, we were told that they were no longer supporting Windows servers. This company was bought and merged three times in our tenure with them.

So with much gnashing I was able to find a new host for 2 web sites that require a Windows server. We have an Access database and our key pages are the .asp variety. I'm too old to try to learn new programming code when I barely know how to do javascript in ASP. I am not a programmer but self taught what I needed to get and keep our sites functioning. We have a third site that runs on a Linux server that will stay with the old host for now. But it will be moved when it's contract expires.

So this host company is going save money by shutting down the Windows servers and lose customers. That's American business in the 21st century.

One stent five years ago.

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“Some men see things as they are and say, why; I dream things that never were and say, why not.” Robert Kennedy paraphrasing a George Bernard Shaw quote.

Hooray!

Midnight Mulling starts with words and pictures from the initial writer (so far just me) and then branches. Ideally.

For me, I needed things for music creation and recording. Multi-tracks. And for many years it meant pruning the computer back to the bare operating system so that the music could record and play uninterrupted. And that meant no networking - ever. So I never bothered learning networking.

Now computing and music-recording wants networking. But the software for network recording expects the user to already know advanced networking. Fun.

best, john

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Today is my 63rd birthday. My husband died nearly 6 years ago at that age.I said the word died. I prefer that to more euphemistic descriptions like "passed",which really grates.

He died of liver failure. But 10 years before that, he had a stroke. A little one. Ha. It paralyzed one vocal cord, leaving him less able to yell. Not a bad deal for me. He did have other damage, a contorted cerebral artery got clogged. Low,towards the brain stem. Later in decline he had a heart episode (long Q-T)and got a stent then an implanted defibrillator. Before he died I had to have that deactivated so it would not fire to shock him back. And that had to be removed before cremation. I wonder whether the stent was picked out of the remains, as well as the gold in his mouth. Whatever.

I am not an operating system person for computers, better understanding of human OS.

Peace.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

Midnight Mulling has an official toast brand for toasting: McGillicuddy's Mulled Cider! However, since nobody has actually tried it, the individual Midnight Mullingite may choose his or her beverage for the toast. So here's to you, riverlover, for your 63rd birthday - I raise a mug of strong coffee (just re-warmed!) to you! Happy 63 and many more!

As to the use of short, blunt words, I don't object to other people using different terms; as long as they don't demand that I have to use only their term.

best, john

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Happy Birthday, riverlover!!!!!!!!!!!

We had birthday cake icons at the other place I used to hang out (not GOS)

!!!!!!!!!!
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!!!!!!!!!! (candles)
!!!!!!!!!!
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(Sorry) It has just occurred to me that net neutrality is Very Important but the next barrier is cost of access. I am dealing this week without my desktop via Android tablet and iPhone. Therefore for me, ATT. I just got a warning that I am exceeding my monthly Mb. I pay $100/month for landline, DSL,and home Wifi. Another$100 for cell service. Rentier prices for internet services? This should be a public service. An excessive bleed.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

One of the reasons that the 3/20/16 Midnight Mulling chapter was posted was to show the possibilities of open television. It's just starting, and it has obstacles in front of it. For example, there isn't much drama available on open television. And the production values are relatively low - but only in comparison with the best of the best. (See the clip "Africa" in the middle of the menu.) And there are Internet charges - especially in the US. But as long as Blu-Ray data writers and Blu-Ray data readers - and most importantly - Blu-Ray data read/write media is available, we can watch for cheap. And legal. That's because, once the content is written, you can unplug the network or wifi and mail the disc. And if you have a few friends with Blu-Ray drives, you can swap. And less than $2 bucks a disc. That's 25 gigs per disc.

"Midnight Mulling - building your own network - ad-free! (mostly)" got some applause - but no comments - yet. Nevertheless, I'll keep trying. Maybe a less 'spammy' sounding title, because it does sound too good to be true. But it works. Within the limits of free television. Note "The hidden puppet masters:" under each show. Free is a slippery word, so pay attention to that part of each free television show.

best, john

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and rely on roku. So I am interested. I will stay that way, and watch for progress.

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The last time I used a linux version was with Redhat x.0 some day in 1997 on my own server. I never learned Fortran, or C, or C++ or Perl, though I knew, I should have. I gave up on the idea. But I still love me my penguin and my memories of myself wandering around Linux enthusiasts like Alice in Wonderland. I never knew there was a group on dailykos dealing with a SeniorLinux. May be better for me, I guess I wouldn't have understood a word and felt like an idiot even trying to.

What is today's software based on the Linux versions from yesteryears called? Is there open software for professional video editing that can run on a linux based server? If yes, let me know.

I am tired of Windows. I am tired of constant changes. I am tired of everything. I am also tired of Apple. I am tired of the internet. Smile

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One of the chapters of SeniorLinux is about that particular issue. I'm hoping that the timing is good; AVLinux 2016 is coming out - and SeniorLinux .004 was about AVLinux "Dozer" (6.0.1B). AVLinux 6.0.4 was the last version, but it was pulled so that AVLinux 2016 could replace it. Talk about kids waiting for Santa Claus.

The state of the art of Linux music is already there. How AVLinux 2016 fills that particular spot is not known yet. 6.0.4 did, so that is a good sign. Thing is, AVLinux 6.0.4 was 32bit only (with the ability to extend the size somewhat). AVLinux 2016 is going to 64bit or 32bit. Apparently, doing that is a big job. And if the results are anything close to the preview, well judge for yourself:
[video:https://vimeo.com/153071157]
Music has one set of requirements. Realtime or realtime close enough, is needed for music. Any interruption is noticed - really noticed. But other than that, the requirements are low. A $100 used HP workstation is usable - if it's set-up right.

Video is getting there on Linux. I'm starting to learn about video, myself. But instead of a $100 used HP workstation, you might need a $200 used HP workstation. Say an HP Z400. To start. But an HP Z800 would be better. And an HP Z820 would be even better. For video. Sound - in general - likes one CPU computers. Video - in general - likes two CPU (or more) computers.

But there's that thing about drivers. It can be done, but each player in the video industry likes things its way. So you can teach me, if you want. But getting my wording for questions is tough sometimes. Aphasia, you know.

best, john

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workstation, HPZ800. Boy that thing is heavy. I have Avid Media Composer, Sorensen Squeeze and Adobe Premiere on it. But the costs are too high and they force you to use their software in the cloud space now. I don't like that. Now I have just to see what Elsa can and can't do. Listening to your video, I am reminded that I could never be a coder of software. But I have a soft spot in my heart for those open software coders who develop applications on Linux.

Thanks !

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Not familiar with Elsa. The software I want is an unknown, because video is pretty much an unknown - to me. Sound, on the other hand, is familiar. At least audio in one computer. Audio on network is somewhat new to me, so getting into the heart of networking has to be the next big thing for me. I'm a volunteer, and the sound engineer wants us to use CAT5e to run sound over. Sometimes it works.

best, john

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