Markos and Armando lose their sh*t over DNC corruption

Jimmy Dore flat out calls Armando a "legitimate, unhinged mental case" in the video below.

Meanwhile Matt Taibbi, rips Markos a new one for his Russophobia CT.

This has become a popular meme: That even paying attention to some of the core charges in Brazile's book is tantamount to aiding the Russians.

Markos Moulitsas tweeted as much by way of an analysis of @SecureDemocracy's "Russian propaganda tracker," the social media tool of the Alliance to Secure Democracy. (The Alliance is itself part of a groundbreaking effort to build a bridge between modern Dems and Bush-era neocons, but that's another story).

When it came out that eight out of the top 10 trending topics on the "tracker" this weekend were about the Brazile-fueled DNC scandal, this is what Moulitsas said: "If you’re letting the Right and the Russians drive your agenda, then it’s time to rethink your approach."

The use of rumors and innuendo to gin up furious emotional responses through a community before facts and corrections can catch up; the use of letters of denunciation; the reflexive charge that dissenting thoughts aid a foreign enemy – does no one recognize this? Has no one out there read a history book?

Now dig a few responses to Markos' tweet.

Speaking of Markos, I ran across this article from January, titled "Moulitsas: What we need in a new DNC chair".

The primary process must be fixed.

Mission Accomplished!
Or did you mean it the other way?

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detroitmechworks's picture

I could use an untraceable Russian Paycheck. Then I can turn stooge and get a third paycheck from the CIA to report on what they're doing, and when I reveal that info to my SVR handlers, I'm sure to get a better paycheck to pass along false info.

I'm sorry, but that did make about as much sense as the Russian crap.

/snark

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

@detroitmechworks
can you guess?

The time to close the book for good on the 2016 primary and move on was in late July of last year, when Bernie Sanders formally and in full-throated fashion endorsed Hillary Clinton for president on the Democratic National Convention floor.
...
But above all Move The Fuck On.

Also, we tortured some folks, and committed war crimes, but that book is closed too.
No sense in bringing people to justice and upsetting the apple-cart.

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@gjohnsit frankly, there's other things that are far more important that they'll never pay any attention to.

Like Saudi Arabia declaring that another country has declared war on IT. No shit. Apparently that's a thing now, and if this gets upheld, you know the MIC will shit a brick to be the first to take this crap for a spin.

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@detroitmechworks

there's other things that are far more important that they'll never pay any attention to.

But every once in a while it's amusing to watch the old place becoming a mental asylum that people willingly enter.
I like to check out this chart for the same reason.
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@gjohnsit That diagram title has a verb tense error.

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@nosleep4u Rec'd!!

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Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.

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@gjohnsit

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@gjohnsit  

Surprise move:
Allies dismiss charges, abandon Nuremberg trials

Victors and victim groups alike agree on need to “move on”

Variety: studios in bidding war for Riefenstahl, Hess memoirs

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@lotlizard

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@gjohnsit Why are the words Sore Loserman running through my head?
Just seems like I've heard this argument somewhere before...

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@gjohnsit

back against Trump?
From Crashing the Gates to learning how to be part of the pussyfoot brigade.

A few reviews for his book that starts with "Hillary received 3 million more votes than Trump....

"This book is for all those people who just want to get rid of Donald Trump and they don't care how. Mr. Moulitsas shows a decidedly lax knowledge of how the US electoral process works and the ideas that are behind this nation constitution. I would recommend this book for a Civics Class just for the students to learn what is wrong with his ideas."

"Save your money. not all that help no lists of organizations or . Waste of time"

"Kos is part of the Democratic Establishment who anointed Hillary Clinton and gave us Trump."

"Blames communities of color for our current president Nea #white liberal bs"

Best one?
"Corporatist neoliberal Daily Kos owner peddling garbage. Not progressive. Watch Jimmy Dore and learn."
or
"Trump has the same policies as Obama, so resist what and support what?"

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@snoopydawg Therefore, it is not the resistance.

Lemme know when they blow up a MIC supply train and I'll take their "resistance" seriously.

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@detroitmechworks

the only protests during his tenure was OWS, BLM and DAPL and we know what happened to them.
Millions marched against the Iraq war, yet very few people showed any resistance to his actions even though they were the same, or worse than what Bush did.

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@detroitmechworks

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

@detroitmechworks @detroitmechworks Actually, I think this is a more appropriate song for this situation:

"Talk to kids around the world, it might go a little bit something like this!"

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

SnappleBC's picture

But I went and read the story linked below and I could only come up with one thought.

Speaking of Markos, I ran across this article from January, titled "Moulitsas: What we need in a new DNC chair".

Holy cow! This is straight from the Kremlin's playbook. That Markos character is deliberately undermining confidence in American (and specifically, Democratic) institutions. Just look at some of the alleged problems he's trying to hype up in an effort to weaken our nation!

from a primary calendar that unfairly advantaged two non-representative rural states, to a punitive system that restricted the number of debates, to exclusionary caucuses, to an undemocratic superdelegate system that bred anger and resentment.

Seriously. We have DONALD TRUMP in the white house and this is the moment he picks to spread his campaign of half-truths? Let's not even consider how these same charges have already been issued on RT. You can't convince me that Markos isn't a Putin Puppet... and I'm not buying the "stooge" line in his case. We need to censor that web site quickly for the good of the nation.

(There, did I do #Russiagate right?)

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A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard

@SnappleBC

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@SnappleBC Code is obvious.

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Orwell: Where's the omelette?

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@SnappleBC

I admit to being too stupid to understand #Russiagate

You're using an incorrect adjective, SnappleBC.

You're not stupid.

You're too honest to understand organs of lies like #Russiagate!

Smile

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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@SnappleBC
schedules and how they were on days when people would be watching something else and the one scheduled for the weekend before Xmas when many people would have been at Xmas parties?
Again we were told that we were making more of it then what it was?
It was just their blind stupidity to see that the primary was rigged. Jimmy Dore talked about the exit polls and how they didn't match up with the actual voting tallies. And then there were the crowd sizes. Bernie had to keep finding bigger places because they were too small. Hillary's only decent big one was when she first announced she was running. After that, when she bothered speaking to the little people, she could barely fill a room. Most of hers were private and cost thousands. A few of them had white noise machines to block out what she was saying.

ROFL

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@snoopydawg

I can say that with some assuredness since I saw the same things reported by Lee Camp on RT.

Note: I feel compelled to point out here that my spelling correct wants to change "assuredness" into "absurdness".

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-- lotlizard

@SnappleBC

...Note: I feel compelled to point out here that my spelling correct wants to change "assuredness" into "absurdness".

Now I'm wondering how far Dem White House-infiltrating Google has gotten with that AI project, and whether they've managed to get to Trump yet or not... s/ (maybe)

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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Funny, I could have sworn that he's meant to be a high-powered NYC lawyer.

Turns out he's just a garden variety conspiracy theorist... a Dead State no no.

That place is comedy gold.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

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@Bollox Ref

Dore flat out calls Armando a "legitimate, unhinged mental case"

Funny, I could have sworn that he's meant to be a high-powered NYC lawyer.

The two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive! Smile

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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@thanatokephaloides

If I wanted credible representation in the particular branch of the law that he 'practices', the years of archived dribble from this known advocate on DailyKult would tend to make me look elsewhere.

He can't be doing his firm any favours. Unless they are all unhinged.

(Edited)

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

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@Bollox Ref

they are all unhinged.

Well done.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

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@Bollox Ref @Bollox Ref
outed by the NRO Online in 2006.

Caused quite a blogger kerfuffle at the time, and Armando, ever the victimized drama queen, posted a GBCW to DKos shortly thereafter.

As I recall, his absence didn't last long.

Unfortunately.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

@Not Henry Kissinger

we know who's talking here.

answer. Walmart,etc.

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And they either don't realize it or just don't give a shit.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

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Who's to say that Obama didn't do just this?

One of a president’s prerogatives is to run his party, making it an extension of his political operation.

He let republicans set his agenda, but his supporters continue to say that republicans blocked him from doing anything that would have helped main stream Americans. Theee most powerful person in the world couldn't find a way around republicans? Sure, I'll buy this. Not.

This article reminds me of when he wrote that Hillary was too much of a Clinton democrat when she ran against Obama. He listed the exact same things that we all wrote before we were banned that were called right wing talking points.
BTW, weren't we called names when we called out the debate schedules? I seem to remember this.

As this article states, France, Brazil and this country are not only going to slash taxes on the rich while gutting the social safety nets for lower income, elderly and disabled, but rip into the middle classes.
These actions in France and Brazil are being fought by citizens, but this country is focusing on the Russian propaganda.

ToP used to have diaries after diaries on this type of actions, but anything of importance is pushed off the wreck list because of new tabloid gossip about Trump, his cabinet and his family.

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I hope he never stumbles like that again. I used to think he was the smartest guy in the room.

I traded him in for Jimmy Dore, so it's all good.

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@Pluto's Republic
He still believes that Her would have won without all the rigging and fixing.

I'm not so sure.

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@TheOtherMaven Whether that's true or not, it's hardly the point, is it?
I mean, for anybody who gives a shit about democracy, the rule of law, or the truth.

"I know I broke into your house and stole your money. But my friend had a job opening for me, so I could have made that money honestly anyway, so we're good, right?"

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

"She cheated but she would've won anyway so all is good."

Say what? As you say, that line of reasoning pretty much says it all regarding the moral and ethical character of anyone who makes it.

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-- lotlizard

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@SnappleBC
So she didn't need to cheat to win, she cheated because it's fun?

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@WoodsDweller

Yes Lance Armstrong was doping all along. But we've done a scientific analysis of his body and determined that even without the doping he still would've won. Therefor it's not a concern that he cheated.

The entire line of reasoning flat out states that the cheating itself is not relevant. The only relevant thing is winning.

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-- lotlizard

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@SnappleBC This.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@WoodsDweller Because she likes guaranteed wins. Why leave anything to chance?

Actual competition is messy.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@emorej a hong kong

Thank you for correcting it for me. I don't know much about him, but his point is important.
While many people are focusing on Trump's stupid tweets all day and others are playing the Russian propaganda game, horrible legislation is being passed in the background noise and no one is noticing it.

Republicans undid or did not allow a lot of Obama's legislation to become law and not many people noticed.
They just reversed being able to sue banks and people now have to go through arbitration if they want to recover damages. This is huge

Again, I am wondering how much of this Russian bullshit on ToP is being pushed by Kos and his handlers?
Looking at it today, there are a few diaries that have the same type of bullet points in the headers.

One more thing I have noticed is that there a lot of users that have low IUDs and are said to have joined last decade, yet are now commenting. Funny though how since being a member for almost 14 years, some only have a few hundred comments.
Others have started pointing this out too.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXu9bm4mDAE

This link doesn't even speak to armando....

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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Thanks CSTM. I just finished watching Season 1. Terrific entertainment. The idea of Sci Fi film noir had never occurred to me.

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@Meteor Man

stopped after two. What did you like about it?
Have you watched continuum? I liked it.

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@Meteor Man Blade Runner is the other instance of science fiction film noir I can think of.

Now if I could just stop having nightmares about the protomolecule, I could go back and pick up where I left off. I really would like to know what happens next!

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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Of course, because rational people never speculate. It's bad.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

There could certainly be nothing more unscientific than formulating theories to cover all known facts when current theories fail to cover these, right? It does NOT move! (Or else!)

And another instant site time-out...

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A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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I never would have found Jimmy Dore.

He's me!

Yeah!

Cenk Uygur is finally irrelevant...

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@EdMass
Nothing like a nice truth rant with coffee and eggs!

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The real SparkyGump has passed. It was an honor being your human.

subscription when they went all in for HRC. I still don't think Taibbi really gets what happened.

The rise of Trump and the crypto-fascist movement that crushed establishment Republicans is half of the story. The sharp move among many white middle American voters away from Beltway Republicanism toward something far darker and more dangerous crystalized in 2015-16.

There seems to be a sneering contempt for Trump voters among the coastal elites. And it has not gone unnoticed in the middle of the country. They see the cover of The New Yorker even if they don't subscribe(and I also stopped my subscription for that reason). Read The Hillbilly Elegy for a clearer picture of Trump's voters.
At the rate we are going, 8 years of Trump is a real possibility.

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TULSI 2020

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when he was crying for supporters. Then the little prick turns into a corporate stooge. I made the same mistake with John Edwards. Gave that idiot $300. smh

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It's hilarious how much Armando reminds me of a certain infamous Harry Potter BNF who was also a lawyer and loved to bully other fans online with her superior attitude. "Legitimate unhinged mental case" is far too kind ....

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