Kamala: Where have I seen this movie before?
You would think that way that the Democratic establishment has viciously smeared the progressive left when they've dared to question Kamala Harris' bona fides, that she would be a shoo-in to win in 2020.
Guess what? There's already been a match-up poll, and Harris didn't impress.
According to the poll:Former Vice President Joe Biden defeats Trump 54 percent to 39 percent
Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders defeats Trump 52 percent to 39 percent
Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren defeats Trump 49 percent to 42 percent
New Jersey Senator Cory Booker defeats Trump 45 percent to 40 percent
California Senator Kamala Harris defeats Trump 41 percent to 40 percentThe poll's margin for error is 3.4 percentage points, meaning that Harris is the only Democrat whose victory is within the margin of error.
The sample group itself leans Democratic.
Harris is virtually tied with one of the most unpopular men in the country.
And this is our saviour? This is the candidate that you want shame progressives into meekly accepting?
Why am I getting a flashback to 2016?
Maybe it's because all the establishment Dems that drove the Democratic Party into the ditch want to remind us that it is 2016 all over again, and the lesson to be learned is that progressives need to STFU!
And I think "Bernieland" has a problem with female leadership-@mic https://t.co/spj9O1ejE7
— Rachel A Lawless (@RachelisLawless) August 4, 2017
Every Bernie supporter I knew was like, "We want a woman-just not THAT woman!" Now they're doing the same thing to Kamala Harris.
— Erica C. Barnett (@ericacbarnett) August 4, 2017
What Kamala Harris' Critics Don't Understand About Female Politicians
Trump’s re-election campaign has already kicked off, the Bernie 2020 crowd is gearing up for another go, and another prominent female politician is getting dragged over social media for being a “neoliberal corporatist” who’s more interested in “identity politics” than economic justice. Only this time, that woman is Kamala Harris, a senator from California who – like Hillary Rodham Clinton before her – seems doomed to fail a variety of punishing ideology tests put forth by the American left.
Based on everything we (and Clinton) saw in 2016, the slams against Harris seem like obvious sexism.
Democratic rising star Kamala Harris has a “Bernieland” problem, via @mic https://t.co/wpoeuLPlrn
Only white male progressives need apply.— Ben Soller (@howubenben) August 1, 2017
2016 "I'd totally vote for a woman, just not Hillary Clinton."
2017: "I'd totally vote for a woman um but not this one either." https://t.co/hFQCRhMIIz— Andi Zeisler (@andizeisler) July 31, 2017
From @ZerlinaMaxwell - Kamala Harris is one of the most progressive (and attacked) leaders in America - @Shareblue https://t.co/SZuL39uTdK
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) August 4, 2017
Why Bernie Sanders Supporters Have Been Going After Kamala Harris on Twitter
Others on Twitter are calling harsh far left criticism of Harris gendered, and a reflection of some Bernie supporters’ flat unwillingness to support a woman. Harris is imperfect, but perhaps on some level it’s fair to say that the only reason this imperfection matters is that we demand the perfection of and allow no room for mistakes for women in positions of power.
Surprisingly only Salon points out the obvious truth.
There seem to be two possible explanations for this line of attack on progressives: Either certain liberals have made the cynical decision to smear their opponents instead of engaging in honest debate, or there is genuine confusion about why politicians like Booker and Harris — and Clinton, for that matter — are distrusted by people on the left. One suspects that a large percentage of Clinton loyalists are indeed acting in bad faith, and would rather try to discredit their critics — many of whom are women and people of color — than engage in a debate. But there’s no doubt that some are genuinely bewildered by progressive criticisms of the Democratic Party.
Uh, yup.
And that doesn't even factor in the reality that her poll numbers suck even before the GOP pulls out there big guns on her.
The big donors have anointed another loser candidate and progressives are supposed to shut the f*ck up and fall into line. And we'll rig the primary if we have to.
If the loser candidate loses to a hopeless moron, it's the fault of the Left for not being enthusiastic about a candidate that didn't represent them.
Rinse, repeat.
Sequels are never as good as the original, and the original sucked.
Comments
What if
Bernie Sanders really wasn't the most popular pol in this country?
That's the part they're not getting--IMO, his "about-face" after the primaries hurt him quite a bit. The way the MSM continues to point out how popular he is masks that notion--although if I had a choice between him and anybody else, I'd vote Sanders all the way. But that doesn't change my opinion of "Kamala Harris"--I don't give a flying fuck what the Democratic Hoi Polloi on Twitter has to say about "Kamala Harris" because she's just another cookie-cutter Clintonite. And yes, indeed, Salon nails exactly why there's this reaction:
because THEY GOT NOTHIN' TO DEBATE WITH.
So ya know? Fuck her and fuck them.
They've learned absolutely nothing
What's the definition of insanity?
There really is no negative consquence
for their arrogance, now is there? They've got theirs so it's all good to continue doing what their benefactors want. They have to be compelled. If merely criticizing their anointed ones sends a bee in their bonnets then just imagine real protests, boycotts and other direct actions could do.
The real SparkyGump has passed. It was an honor being your human.
"They" (the DNC) know
the Nov. spanking wasn't their fault becuz America loves Hillary Clinton.
Okay, maybe not so much, but Hillary still was more popular than Trump.
Okay, okay, maybe not so much, but only RW racists were going to vote for Trump.
Okay, okay, okay, but... (don't look at us, it wasn't our fault).
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
" what's the definition of insanity? "
"poses a danger to himself and others" will get you off the street in Texas.
where do our political "leaders" fall on the scale?
consider that they wield immense power.
what kind of system produces this result?
how would you describe the situation?
Bernie really hurt his credibility at the end.
He is nowhere near as popular as he was. His credibility and his platform is all he's got. I would vote for him too over any of the candidates being discussed, but I am disappointed in him.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
I believe Deep State
gave Bernie a little tap on the shoulder in late June. "Nice try, old man, but this is the way this is going to go... " "Capiche?!"
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
And whatever caused his facial trama at convention
was a reminder to remember his place and stay on script so Her could have Her turn.
Now I shall remove my tinfoil hat. But that doesn't mean I stop believing something went down.
@Deja You look good in a
You look good in a tin foil hat. Very flattering!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
I'm not one for
tin foil hat CT stuff, but look at the trail of dead in this DNC-Russia drama. Look how far somebody or a bunch of somebodys have gone to keep the DNC crap Top Secret. Bodies everywhere. So... how much of a stretch is it, really, to suggest "Deep State" gave Bernie a little tap on the shoulder?
Something happened to Bernie in June 2016. Either he suddenly became super patriotic to Hillary, DWS and the DNC /party, or... or somebody "got to him." It's Door One or Door Two. Now, maybe he did say, "what the hell... Hillary and these DNC fucks have been fucking me for a year, but... I'll just turn the other cheek, let bygones be bygones, and do all I can to support Hillary down the home stretch!" (fat chance in my view), or... or... somebody tapped Bernie on the shoulder. Becuz, you don't just come away from a hard fought Primary and, without concessions from the winner, wholeheartedly support your opponent. Or maybe you do. But, from what I saw at the Convention, there was no way he was going to support Hillary during the GE, and did as little as he could to make it look like he was "supporting" her. When, in fact, all he was doing on that GE campaign was giving the same stump speech he had been giving for a year. The exact same one. Which fried Hillarys bunns to say the least. So... so, my money is on that tap on the shoulder.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
I can't imagine it happening any other way
Bernie Sanders--the Senator guy with the unblemished, lengthy, actually-progressive, publicly-available voting record going back 30-some odd years for that and other elected offices--is not the same guy who emerged after that farce of a nominating convention. He got Zaprudered at the end. I've always believed that, and always will, much as it can never be publicly proven.
The “boardroom speech” from the movie “Network”
Bernie probably was subjected to something very much like the “boardroom speech” that the big boss Arthur Jensen gives to Howard Beale in the movie Network.
Not to be too melodramatic, but
Not to be too melodramatic, but I don't think Bernie quite realized the emotionally traumatizing effect his post-California actions would have on his base. I suspect that Jane did have an idea and that she tried to talk him out of it.
What he did was not just surprising or disappointing. It felt like a gut punch.
It was like an army heading into battle, having been roused and inspired by a strong, fierce, determined leader. Then having said leader disappear at the last minute, only to resurface a week later telling us to support the opposing army and that we could "hold their feet to the fire" later on.
"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi
"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone
@Centaurea Agreed. He made the
Agreed. He made the Democratic Party look evil. And that is referencing policy positions they take. And it culminated in massive fraud on their part. And then he asked us to support the Machine.
Because of him, I will never, ever contribute a red cent to another candidate. I might stick up a sign, might make a call, but never again will I deprive myself of what little money I have to promote someone's political ambitions.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
And what do you think
would make him do that? Does it make any sense that he would just shrug his shoulder, say he gave it a good go, but, fuck it, I'm now going to support the assfucks that have been fucking me for a year?
Really?
Doesn't make sense to me, nor does it sound like the guy that busted his ass for a year. I knew Bernie was in it to win it when he made three stump speech appearances here in NY state on the same day(s). You don't do 3-a-days three months before the Convention becuz you're faking it. Not at 74 years old. Bernie was in it to win it. The aftermath boiled down to the options left on the table. Door #1 or Door #2. I believe he "chose" Door #2. The aftermath boiled down to what he could do, given the $h!tty cards he'd been dealt, to maintain what he could maintain. It worked. He still is the most popular "Dem" of the sorry bunch, still has enough cred to raise a crowd of 5,000 to 10,000 within hours, still in the game. We can whine that he didn't just flip off the Dem party last July with double middle fingers, go rogue and take his thousands with him to... to... to do something, maybe start a third party, but he opted not to go that route, opted to live to fight another day. If some feel betrayed by that...
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
Well said.
The real SparkyGump has passed. It was an honor being your human.
I've looked at Bernie's
"about face" as more of Bernie playing the cards dealt, doing what he could to maintain what he could, rather than sticking a knife in the back of supporters.
It worked. He's Still regarded as the most popular Dem, and he's still actively in the game. Hillary, meanwhile, has been reduced to a has-been.
Bernie is Far from over, and it remains to be seen what role he plays in 2018 and 2020. I Do Not expect him to run for prez, but I fully expect he'll be fully engaged in the process.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
@Wink
Bernie's also keeping the notion of a truly democratic government working for the people alive in the minds of that huge section of the American people restricted to the corporate media, in that very corporate media which had previously blacked him out - and showing up the corporate Dems by contrast also not otherwise presented.
Who else could have achieved this, and how else could he have done it except by sacrificing himself in this manner to retain this chance for the people to realize what he kept telling them throughout his campaign; that it wasn't about him; that no single person could make this better; that change had to come from the bottom up?
It surprises me (and, I suspect, likely you as well,) that so many people, even some with access to sufficient information to form a good idea, still don't apply what they know to realize at least something about what the global monster is that we're all up against and where publicly spitting defiance and starting a 3rd party, as though America was a democracy or at least a country of law, gets anyone or any movement.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Exactly.
He may have "fucked his supporters" (in the minds of some) at the Convention, and afterwards, but he still remains the best option progressives have, like him or not. Ain't nobody else getting it done, or carrying Bernie's load, so... until somebody steps up Bernie is what we got. Or not. Your mileage may vary. For me, he's Way better than whoever might be option 2.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
Yeppers!
Give me someone like Tulsi Gabbard or Nina Turner and I'll vote for her in a heartbeat.
Keep giving me warmed-over neo-liberals who care nothing for the economically downtrodden--which is now about half the freaking country!!!--who are a lot more like Carly Fiorina or Meg Whitman than anyone else--and, no, I'll decline to support them.
I'd even consider supporting Elizabeth Warren, who disappointed me tremendously last election. At the very least she does have a good handle on the economics of the situation going on today, and she did make a decent effort at helping people out with the amount of power she had.
But, instead, get ready for either Hillary Clinton (the third run), Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, or Tim Kaine. Those are the front runners.
The Clinton dems figure if they throw enough shit on the wall
and something will stick.
Why do you think they're resurrecting every single smear they ever festooned the halls of public discourse with?
Hell, they even went back to the archives to drag out McCarthyism smears. That's digging through their trash right there...
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
It's always a good time to punch hippies!
Exactly right on the smears
cause that's all the fuckers have, fuck em.
besides the fact that Bernie is an I, my guess is
that they believe they can pick up 4/5 R's for
every D/I they lose
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
F*ck them all.
They all voted for the Russia/Iran sanctions. No way am I ever voting for any of those corrupt sociopaths.
During last week's TrumpCare
During last week's TrumpCare debates, the GOS had become a bearable place again (with the exception of Russian collusion posts, which diminished a bit with the focus on health care). Kamala Harris immediately returned the site back to the cesspool it became last year. We're the alt-left. Neoliberalism doesn't exist (despite scholarly evidence to the contrary). Kamala is being "demonized" for having her record questioned.
Serious flashbacks. Debate is being squelched three years before the next freakin' election!
I keep holding on to hope and it keeps getting snatched from my hands and stomped on. It seems I haven't learned my lesson yet. *blushes*
Right-wing talking points on GOS
Funny how some right-wing talking points (like the term "alt-left") are allowed on TOP, and some aren't.
Hypocrisy should be the
Hypocrisy should be the site's middle name. Daily Hypocrisy Kos.
There was a post last week decrying that Trump was calling for the end of the filibuster. I pointed out that Kos has been calling for the end of the filibuster for years and included evidence of him advocating for such. The "reality based community" completely ignored the evidence I provided.
I often laugh when a diary is posted when a Fox news host says something they agree with. Using right wing sources is okay when it suits their purposes.
You gotta admit
Fox news has slipped into the stopped clock zone (right twice a day) instead of watch losing a minute a day (right once every other year).
There is no such thing as TMI. It can always be held in reserve for extortion.
So has Rand Paul, besides Bernie the lone Senate holdout against
Congress’ willful efforts to ignite a war with Russia and Iran.
Right wing mentality
permeated the place. The tactics, the hatred, the stereotyping and bigotry come from the same sick spirit of partisanship over truth; there's just different objects.
Orwell: Where's the omelette?
Don't want that woman, either.
Warren I would vote for. I've got my reservations, but I'd vote for her.
They keep pulling out women that are corrupt and slaves to Wall Street and saying "See you don't want a woman!" I don't want Biden either. Is he a woman?
Let's see. I hate women, men, blacks, and whites. Yep. If they are DNC Centrists, I sure do.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
"Where have I heard this before?"
The Camel revealed herself to be a rude, obnoxious person--no change from before. She sucks up to her mentors, like Willie Brown, both ;literally and figuratively.
So where have you heard this before?
You heard it HERE
1. https://caucus99percent.com/content/kamala-harris-dangerous-democrat
2. https://caucus99percent.com/content/kamala-harris-camel-hoping-please
3. https://caucus99percent.com/content/my-love-kamala-grows-daily
Thanks gj for the footnotes.
Sticks and stone may break my bones
But I'm still not voting for their Republican in Democrats clothes, pro-corporate, neo-liberal candidate.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
Oh and that goes for Joe Biden too.
He's white, straight, male and I wouldn't vote for him either for the same reasons. So tell me I have a problem with female leadership. Sheesh.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
His bankruptcy bill was enough for me to never trust Joe
The real SparkyGump has passed. It was an honor being your human.
According to Grandma Nancy, the
Mid-terms don't matter. And she said she rais!ed $25 million for various oacs. (see back up below.)
Now what could these idiots be up to???
They must be gearing up to go for broke for this woman in 2020. (I still think the Clinton Creature's in for another run.) Screw all those other offices like mayor, governor, senator, or congressperson. We need a neocon, preferably a female, in the White House. And if you don't agree let the name calling commence!)
The new DNC motto (or whatever) should be "wash, rinse, repeat."
EDIT: Theymust/They must
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
After a towel has been washed
and re-washed umpteen times, and repeatedly used to mop up various toxic spills, it tends to lose its structural integrity. It can always be washed once again, but there's a danger of it falling apart during the spin cycle.
native
We can only hope.
The Dems truly have no idea how threadbare their credibility has become. One more time through the ringer just might end it for good.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
@Not Henry Kissinger
The spin... it burns!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Kshama Sawant, Tulsi, Nina Turner
Just not those females or people of color.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
The wrong change
Sadly, the voters fall for this all the time.
I had no problem voting for a woman, I did in fact for 2012 and 2016. I voted for one that held the policies I wanted. Simple.
I would not vote for Clinton. It's that simple.
Now here is the thing: They change out superficial qualities, things that have absolutely no relevance to policy whatsoever. Black man, black woman, white woman, etc. etc.
They say, "See, look at this diverse crowd." It's not diverse, it's all the same. All the same corporate, neoliberal warmongering garbage.
That's what they aren't changing folks. The thing that actually matters.
Same product, different wrapper.
That's all they offer.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
@Dr. John Carpenter
Wouldn't that be, same by-product? Something manufactured to be phony and toxic as hell?
Edited for a letter typo. My signature typo,
signed by the genuine Typo Queen.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
If Kamala really wanted our votes
maybe she should have prosecuted someone rather than hit him up for a contribution.
On to Biden since 1973
@doh1304
But she wanted to take the money and run for election!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
No way the Democratic Party will allow
any of those women anywhere near the levers of power. Such a thing would upset too many lucrative apple carts. Kamala Harris on the other hand, is sure to be more um, shall we say... pliable?
native
Pliable for pay
Pliable for pay.
"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi
"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone
Not only will they rig the primary
on behalf of Kamala, they'll unleash their army of zombie superdelegates just in case.
Kamala is responsible for Trump's Treasury Secretary Steve Munchkin. She didn't prosecute him and his OneWest Bank for their thousands of fraudulent foreclosures, wonder why?
"Please clap." -- Jeb Bush
DNC/DP are a mockery
At this point, it must be an inside joke to see how easy it is to fool some people some of the time. Their drama is their own creation and if that is all they have, they can keep their kabuki company touring, but it won't get my penny nor my thoughts.
Fighting for democratic principles,... well, since forever
They are all warmongers
Even Bernie has a horrid foreign policy. (Tulsi seems to be one of the few working for De-escalation and peace) Somehow we must stop all the insane wars we promote for corporate profit and bring those resources home to reshape our country. We sure don't have any political leadership on that front.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Yes, Bernie would do well to have Tulsi as his running mate
and run his foreign policy as well. Me thinks the Deep State MIC cabal will do everything they can to not allow a peace candidate in the White House. Too bad that most all those that will run for president are war mongers/criminals already. No one has the guts to stand up to the war machine and our Saudi/Israeli run foreign policy.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK | "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine." - G. B. Shaw Bernie/Tulsi 2020
or be secretary of state
She was born on American Samoa I think.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Kamala Harris = New Hillary Clinton
@gjohnsit
No kidding! There she is, captured in a moment of re-enacting a strangling she particularly enjoyed...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I think the more interesting
bit there is that Sanders only wins 52 - 39.
It's possible (like dkmich said) that progressives have become disenchanted with Sanders, but frankly, I doubt that. Sure a lot may like him a bit less but they would still vote for him in a heartbeat, especially over Trump.
I think it's far more likely that smears (pushed mostly by Dems) have (a) hurt him with independents and (b) pushed a lot of Clintonites into Never-Bernie.