Just how pathetic are the Democrats?
So Trump gave his Afghanistan speech to justify his pointless mini-surge.
The New Yorker called Trump's strategy Neither Bold, Nor New, Nor a Strategy.
Politico says Only one thing was clear after President Trump’s vague speech: Nobody knows what to do.
Except for the right-wing media, Trump's strategy and speech were universally panned.
What's more, the public is overwhelmingly against sending more troops to Afghanistan, including 80% of Democratic voters.
Most Americans, in fact, oppose the idea of increasing troop levels in Afghanistan. In June, Fox News polled Americans and found that the proposal was opposed by a 2-to-1 margin.
So an immensely unpopular president proposes an immensely unpopular troop surge to an immensely unpopular war.
How do you think the opposition party (i.e. the McResistance) responded?
A handful of progressive Democrats in Congress are attacking President Donald Trump’s decision to escalate American military involvement in Afghanistan.
But many congressional Democrats are — for now, at least — either staying silent on the Afghanistan buildup or focusing their criticism of Trump on the fact that he hasn’t released more details of his new military plan.
Hurrah! The War Party wins again!
For now, most congressional Democrats and center-left think tanks have criticized Trump for not coming up with a more comprehensive plan, bolstering the state department’s diplomatic efforts in the country, or seeking congressional approval. But in spite of those criticisms, most Democrats have largely stopped short of demanding that Trump bring the troops home from a 16-year war that’s now the longest in the country’s history.
...Rhode Island Sen. Jack Reed in a statement. "... I know Americans are weary of the war in Afghanistan. President Trump has a duty to set a clear strategy for Afghanistan. Tonight's speech is a long overdue step, but more important will be the details and an accompanying commitment by this President going forward."
That's telling him!
And then comes the real stab in the back.
Still, the other Senate Democrats rumored to have White House ambitions in 2020 have fallen silent. As of noon on Thursday, many of the senators widely seen as likely to run in the next presidential race — Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, and Cory Booker — had not spoken out over reports that Trump would send 4,000 more troops into Afghanistan.
Even Indivisible, hardly a radical group says, "Democrats who remain silent on this will be tacitly condoning Trump's warmongering.”
Democrats hate, hate, HATE Trump...except when he's warmongering.
Like when he's bombing Syria.
In fact, Democrats are absolutely swooning over the very worst war criminals and warmongers the Republican Party has created.
You want to be bipartisan in Washington? Then kill some brown-skinned civilians overseas. Everyone loves that.
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Good thing that the Democrats don't have to really talk on this.
Because they will only have to answer questions from the MSM... and the MSM has zero interest in this topic.
So, the real question needs to be, why is Trump trying to tarnish Obama's legacy by sending TOO FEW troops to Iraq. (Oh come on, you know somebody has floated this one at a strategy meeting...)
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Just a reminder
Why did Hillary lose? The anti-war vote
And this
It is bloody hilarious in a sad sick kind of way.
They can wonder why they lost my vote, they can insult me for not voting for that warmongering murdering shower.
My first thought is Erik Prince.
His mercenary army would love to get a piece of that. Then no US soldiers would have to go, ending any "unwillingness" by Americans to send their loved ones over there. I imagine his right wing loons would love that.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
Actually
that was what Bannon was proposing before he got shit canned.
The JCS doesn't want any mercs intruding onto their turf. Their justification and jobs (pre and post military) are at stake after all.
Ps. I do not support mercenaries fighting our wars for us, although we have been using mercenaries for years now.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
I totally agree.
And good for the military, the least they can do I guess. And yes, job security and power, after all.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
Is good practice for
when they have to turn all that firepower on the 99%. Or at least on those namby pamby hippies not satisfied to nosh on the crumbs.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
Pathetic, but hardly shocking
It would be the easiest thing in the world to show some real resistance or hell, even just say something. But they can't. Democrats co-own this debacle with the Republicans.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
Is a lose lose at
best. They know whatever they say comes back to haunt them.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
Here is Sen. Blumenthal re: Trump Afgan Surge
Wolfie starts the question about Afgan surge at 2:40 mark.
Short answer: Dick spews a bunch of crap that he needs to see Trump's plan first. But Not One Peep from him about the war being a fools errand for 16 year now.
Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.
It's one of the skeletons
in the Dem family closet. Such things are simply not mentioned in polite company.
native
@native
Even if some of the reek escapes the closet...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Not being a Democrat...
You'd think Sanders would have the gumption to deride this latest part of the Afghan disaster.
All that money wasted overseas, is money lost for all the troubles stateside. The 'War' in Afghanistan is unwinnable. You might as well fly transport aircraft across that country, and throw earmarked pallets of wasted $$ across the countryside, for all the value you're going to get.
At some point, 'job training' after 16 years, doesn't make a lot of sense.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
It's impossible to tell the two (O/DT) apart
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/08/200pm-water-cooler-8222017.html
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Over teh big pond in UK
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
The UK is lucky
hopefully they realize they have the
real deal in Corbyn and utilize him as such.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
@divineorder
The UK PTB doesn't yet exert the same degree of virtually complete control over electoral results and both corporate and much once-independent media coverage as do the US PTB...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
ToP are basically silent on this, the talking points have
not as yet been delivered.
I'm shocked
that TOP is silent on the morality of this disastrous war.
I'm not shocked at all after watching the slide into
acceptance over the last 8 years or so, most of the anti-war people I know have left ToP for good.
The day Obama said look forward wrt Torture it has gone rapidly downhill hence the Hillary resistance in 2008 compared to the Hillary lovein in 2016.
It was when I was writing my series of MSF-Kunduz diaries I realized I had no place on ToP.
At least I did them the courtesy of warning them about Trump's possible win due to the Democratic Party and their attitudes.
@gjohnsit
Issuers perhaps still waiting to see how various talking points poll before sending out the propaganda lines?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
These people are all clubmembers.
They have received their own "golden handshake". Everyone who enters the halls of Congress is offered the same handshake.
They can accept it and thrive, and become fabulously wealthy.
Or reject it and be isolated, marginalized, scapegoated, and run out of office in shame, in jail, or dead.
Has anyone heard a response from Tulsi Gabbard? She is the only one I can think of who is not in "The Club".
Yet.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Obama Clubmembers
The L.A. Times confirms that the New Dem warmongers will continue to be the majority. The Progressive Caucus is dead meat:
Because they are not as bad as Trump. A Bush political operative comments:
Obama New Dems playbook:
Our values do not include opposition to forever wars. Identity politics and climate change will be used to manipulate voters. This is the party of Clinton, Obama, Booker and Harris. Excuse me while I go blow chunks.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-obama-alumni-congress-20170823...
"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war." Howard Zinn
Trump spoke of losers. The taxpayers, Afghan civilians,
dead/wounded vets are the reall losers here.
The winners?
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
i must assume that "center-left" refers to think tanks that sit
with the center on their proximal left.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
@UntimelyRippd
Or those who simply have left the centre far, far behind?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
In a country with a true opposition party...
if the President gave a nationally televised speech announcing he was ramping up troop levels in a sixteen year old war and spouting nothing but vague promises of Victory! so past their sale date that even sour milk smells good by comparison, the opposition would seize the opportunity to resurrect its sclerotic chances and demand equal time for a response to OPPOSE this deeply unpopular overseas adventure.
Now we know why the Dems wanted to repeal the equal time rule: so nobody expects these lazy, corrupt clowns to actually do their jobs.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
@Not Henry Kissinger
It's not that they're lazy, just that they can no longer keep the smirk off their faces while pretending opposition - plus, the donors sometimes get nervous if they fake it too well.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Even the elites are Kabuki'ed out.
A big reason the Dems are in such big trouble is that the donor class is far less tolerant of anything that even smacks of progressive rhetoric than they used to be.
In the past, the money people put up with guys like Bill and Obama throwing rhetorical bones to the masses because they were more secure about their status. Nowadays, they know their position is far more precarious and so they've decided that anything that might at all rile up the mob to get out the pitchforks is not to be tolerated.
That puts the Dems in a big bind because without being able to at least nominally promote progressive initiatives they can't raise grass roots money to regain power, and if they can't regain power they can't raise the really big money from donors.
Catch 22.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
@Not Henry Kissinger
Exactly!
The public outrage has gone past the simmer as the frogs begin to boil so that the flesh may be extracted from their bones to be consumed by the pathologically greedy, to leave them nothing, not money, property, health, life or any hope of a future. And may the Dems and the other face of the Corporate Party, as well their paymasters, catch all of the flack from the fan it hits, right in the face of their fascist agendas!
If you know Siouxsie like I know Siouxsie, you know the accurate description below. (Or current affairs, of course, (bitter) lol...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_CaPzwEKvg
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
The Onion reports
Soldier Excited To Take Over Father’s Old Afghanistan Patrol Route
Trump Vows To Leave A Better Afghanistan For Nation’s Grandchildren To Fight In
Good boy, Donald.
Your neocon trainers have got you to roll over, sit up, and bark on command.
native
Now that was some absolute bitter irony.
The Onion's greatest moment was their post-911
issue -- which transcended their own idiom. The runnerup was their issue from the week of the 2000 election.
I once had copies of these, but my ex-wife threw them out.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
You are
a sick fuck gjohn.
Accolades.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Hands. Bite. Feed. Don't.
Orwell: Where's the omelette?
Seriously disappointed. No ties back to Russia.
I have been looking for CT articles tying Trump's escalation to Putin. But hope springs eternal.
He's trying to
occupy radicals in Afghanistan so as to prevent them from harassing Russia. Nothing else makes sense.
Orwell: Where's the omelette?
@MrWebster
No, actually, increased MIC profits, killings and theft of other people's resources for The Right Corporate Interests are good for Dems and their donors, so Russia obviously wouldn't be supporting Trump in this rare 'Presidential' moment.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Beiner's Manager For Governor
This is pathetic:
Because nothing qualifies you to run for Governor more than Hollywood fundraising.
http://m.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/democrats-want-Scooter-Braun-governo...
"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war." Howard Zinn
@Meteor Man
Exactly! Look at Pelosi, admired, respected and re-elected by Dems/Dem paymasters, all because she can fund-raise like a crazy woman also incapable of clear 'public' (probably not 'private', one assumes) speech, thank Mammon!
And surely nothing matters more than that in a public servant privately serving The Psychopaths That Be, against the public interest?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.