July 19, Seneca Falls & the ERA
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Prefatory Rant: Today is the anniversary of the Women's Rights Convention in Seneca Falls, NY. Who Knew? Is there a holiday or any other celebration of this day? Nope. We have a yo-yo day, a kite flying day, oatmeal day, scouts day, PB&J day, Secretaries Day Administrative Professionals' Day, and even two days to celebrate specific irrational numbers. But Today?? Today is farkin' National Raspberry Cake Day, I shit you not. /rant
Hokay on this day in 1848, roughly 13 years before the US Civil War, a bunch of women and a few men (including Frederick Douglas) gathered to hold a two day convention to consider and discuss the sorry status of women's rights, propose remedies, write a Declaration of Sentiments and such. Women's suffrage was controversial and hotly debated (Douglas was for it) and eventually passed easily. Not all of the attendees survived to witness the passage of the 19th amendment 72 years later. Not by any means.
None of them whatsoever lived to see the Equal Rights Amendment pass, because it hasn't.
Rant the Second Know what is pathetic? It has fallen off of the map. Go thee now and Google "ERA" sans quotes. I did and at the top of the page it presented ERA under the heading "Spanish" and next to it, under the heading "English" it said "IT WAS". This was followed by other stuff like "what is an era?", "how long is an era?", etc. and some information about "Earned Run Average" (beisbol). All that before any mention of the Equal Rights Amendment, It isn't like it is that lengthy or complex for Ishtar's sake --
"ARTICLE —
"Section 1. Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
"Sec. 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
"Sec. 3. This amendment shall take effect two years after the date of ratification."
/rant
It's been 173 years since they decided to complain about their radically unequal status; 173 years! Worse yet, if it is even putatively ratified, it will still be litigated and very possibly struck down by the Supremes thanks to various bits of Congressional idiocy like a sunset provision and some attempted extensions as well as the fact that some states that ratified it revoked their prior ratifications. (Nebraska, Tennessee, Idaho, Kentucky, and South Dakota) In addition, North Dakota has passed a resolution to the effect that it's original ratification is no longer valid because of the earlier sunset, which is long past and Minnesota has a similar piece of work in process. Minnesota? Really?
Let's get this straight, all people are equal. Furthermore rights aren't gifts, even the US, which in its infancy recognized slavery as a legitimate social institution, still has a foundational document calling human rights "unalienable", they are not transferable but inhere within each individual. It is ludicrous and irrational to hold that women have unequal rights and need a document prepared and signed by others to grant them full equality. However, the sad reality is that their ability to fully exercise those rights is dependent upon such a document because our socio-political and economic system rewards and exalts sociopathy, which, among other things relies heavily upon the exploitation of humans for the benefit of a few. That means that it is really necessary that we the people figure out a way to force the issue and get such a document enacted; passed, ratified, and implemented, even if we have to start over ab initio. Party, schmarty, legislators and executives at all levels who do not support this and make it a high priority should all be out on their ass, rinse and repeat, until done.
On this day in history:
64 – The Great Fire of Rome lasted for six days, destroying half of the city. (see also 1943, below)
711 – Umayyad forces defeated the Visigoths at the Battle of Guadalete beginning their conquest of Iberia
1588 – The British fought the Spanish Armada at the Battle of Gravelines.
1701 – Representatives of the Iroquois Confederacy signed the Nanfan Treaty,
1832 – The British Medical Association was founded as the Provincial Medical and Surgical Association
1843 – Brunel's steamship the SS Great Britain was launched, becoming the first ocean-going craft with an iron hull and screw propeller, as well as the largest vessel afloat in the world.
1848 – A two-day Women's Rights Convention opened in Seneca Falls, New York.
1870 – France declared war on Prussia, heh
1900 – The first line of the Paris Métro opened for operation.
1903 – Maurice Garin won the first Tour de France.
1936 – The CNT and UGT called a general strike in Spain against the Nationalists
1940 – British Army order 112 formed the Intelligence Corps of the British Army.
1943 – More than 500 Allied aircraft bombed Rome inflicting thousands of casualties. (1943-64 = 1,879 years; tune in on 07/19/3822)
1961 – Tunisia blockaded Bizerte
1963 – Joe Walker flew a North American X-15 to a record altitude of 106,010 meters which qualified as a human spaceflight under international convention.
1964 – At a rally in Saigon, South Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Khánh called for expanding the war into North Vietnam. see France, supra
1977 – The world's first Global Positioning System (GPS) signal was transmitted from space (duh) and received in Cedar Rapids, Iowa
1979 – The Sandinista rebels overthrew the government of the Somoza family
1979 – The oil tanker SS Atlantic Empress collided with another oil tanker, causing the largest ever ship-borne oil spill.
1981 – French President François Mitterrand told Reagan about the Farewell Dossier
1983 – The first three-dimensional reconstruction of a human head in a CT was published.
Born this day in:
“Free election of masters does not abolish the masters or the slaves.”
~~ Herbert Marcuse
1670 – Richard Leveridge, singer and songwriter
1759 – Marianna Auenbrugger, pianist and composer
1814 – Samuel Colt, businessman, founded the Colt's Manufacturing Company
1834 – Edgar Degas, painter, sculptor, and illustrator
1846 – Edward Charles Pickering, astronomer and physicist
1864 – Fiammetta Wilson, astronomer
1865 – Charles Horace Mayo, surgeon, founded the Mayo Clinic
1875 – Alice Dunbar Nelson, poet and activist
1883 – Max Fleischer, animator and producer
1894 – Aleksandr Khinchin, mathematician and academic
1896 – A. J. Cronin, physician and novelist
1898 – Herbert Marcuse, sociologist and philosopher
1899 – Balai Chand Mukhopadhyay, physician, author, poet, and playwright
1902 – Samudrala Raghavacharya, singer, director, producer, and screenwriter
1909 – Balamani Amma, poet and author
1920 – Robert Mann, violinist, composer, and conductor
1920 – Richard Oriani, metallurgist and engineer
1921 – Harold Camping, radio preacher: went 0 for 5 on the date of the end of the world, then "passed"
1921 – Elizabeth Spencer, novelist, short story writer, and playwright
1921 – Rosalyn Sussman Yalow, physicist and academic
1922 – Rachel Robinson, professor and registered nurse
1925 – Sue Thompson, singer
1929 – Gaston Glock, engineer and businessman, co-founded Glock Ges.m.b.H.
1932 – Buster Benton, singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1937 – George Hamilton IV, singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1938 – Jayant Narlikar, astrophysicist and astronomer
1938 – Tom Raworth, poet and academic
1941 – Vikki Carr, singer and actress
1943 – Han Sai Por, sculptor and academic
1946 – Alan Gorrie, singer, songwriter, and musician
1947 – Bernie Leadon, guitarist and songwriter
1947 – Brian May, singer, songwriter, guitarist, producer, and astrophysicist
1948 – Keith Godchaux, keyboard player and songwriter
1950 – Freddy Moore, singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1952 – Allen Collins, guitarist and songwriter
1956 – Mark Crispin, computer scientist, designed the IMAP
1960 – Kevin Haskins, drummer and songwriter
1963 – Thomas Gabriel Fischer, musician
1964 – Masahiko Kondo, singer, songwriter, and race car driver
1968 – Robb Flynn, singer, songwriter, guitarist, and producer
1973 – Martin Powell, keyboard player and songwriter
Died this day in:
Five great enemies of peace inhabit with us — avarice, ambition, envy, anger and pride; if these were to be banished, we should infallibly enjoy perpetual peace.
A short cut to riches is to subtract from our desires.
~~ Petrarch
1374 – Petrarch, poet and scholar
1631 – Cesare Cremonini, philosopher and academic
1742 – William Somervile, poet and author
1814 – Matthew Flinders, navigator and cartographer
1838 – Pierre Louis Dulong, physicist and chemist
1855 – Konstantin Batyushkov, poet and translator
1939 – Rose Hartwick Thorpe, poet and author
1975 – Lefty Frizzell, singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1980 – Hans Morgenthau, political scientist, philosopher, and academic
1982 – Hugh Everett III, physicist and mathematician
2002 – Dave Carter, singer, songwriter, and guitarist
2002 – Alan Lomax, historian, scholar, and activist
2004 – Sylvia Daoust, sculptor
2004 – J. Gordon Edwards, entomologist, mountaineer, and DDT advocate
2010 – Jon Cleary, author and playwright
Holidays, Holy Days, Festivals, Feast Days, Days of Recognition, and such:
Independence Day (São Tomé and Príncipe from Portugal & Kiribati from the UK)
Global Hug Your Kids Day
National Daquiri Day
National Flitch Day
Flight Attendant Safety Professionals' Day
Sandinista Day or Liberation Day (Nicaragua)
Music goes here, iirc, well, With apologies 
Seneca Falls:
Sue Thompson
Buster Benton
George Hamilton IV
Vicki Carr
Alan Gorrie
Bernie Leadon
Brian May
Keith Godchaux
Allen Collins
Lefty Frizzell
Dave Carter
Alan Lomax
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Ok, it's an open thread, so it's up to you folks now. So what's on your mind?
Comments
Good morning...
I don't expect much from the pols. The idea they would support equality for women (or any group) is an exercise in frustration (that is unless their controlling oligarchs allow for it).
Well, at least we have ringside seats to observe the collapse of the US empire and perhaps our entire biosphere. Best enjoy what we do have, and appreciate every day. Treasure your friends and loved ones, and brothers and sisters stand arm in arm in support of our shared humanity.
Not to suggest we shouldn't try to gain ground, but I just don't see how we make progress in this putrid swamp of corporate control in which we find ourselves.
Thanks for the OT, rant, and music!
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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Good morning LO, thanks for that Youngbloods tune.
Always appropriate, though, of course, far from everybody will agree or join in.
Since it's still morning and I still need to get my blood flowing I'll just bookend that with this:
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Good morning, el ~~
The ERA is a relic of the past. Women are on the move in our new world. The feminist era is upon us. We are moving from patriarchy to matriarchy. Look around and see the gains women are making. It is increasing yearly, monthly, weekly, daily. The gradual move is upon us.
Enjoy your day!
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Good morning RA. Yes, "Women are Doing it for
themselves" as the ladies sing above. Nonetheless discrimination is still legal and hence ongoing, though legislation doesn't seen to be much of a cure. As someone pointed out elsewhere, even though Equal Pay for Equal Work legislation was passed in 1963, women still only earn 79 cents on the dollar despite being 47% of the paid workforce.
Laws are not the cure, but are a slight deterrent, and whatever wrongdoing is possible will be done, and moreso when it is legal. Illinois, for example, just made it illegal for cops to lie to minors when trying to frame them and/or con them into confessing to stuff. That means that the other 49 states still routinely do so and all 50 still routinely do so to adults. It will still happen in Illinois too, but a bit less and could maybe get some cases thrown out. So too with womens' equality. This country was founded on the principle of minority rule and minority control (white male landowning oligarchs). Slowly that is being chipped away at through legislation, even though it is still the defacto and procedural rule.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
I don't think we can expect a kinder, gentler, more just world
with women in charge.
Good morning CB. Agreed.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Disappointed you agree,
. You’re usually more thoughtful than that.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
I beg to differ
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You are naming one small segment as if they represent the whole. This is why we cannot have nice things. Folks like you only see and espouse the negative as it suits them (you).
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
That one small segment are
comprised of women (and men) that have an inordinate amount of influence over the Defence Department as well as the President. I am just relaying when it comes to war mongering within the US government, they are an equal opportunity employer.
Just look at Madeleine Albright who was the first female United States Secretary of State from 1997 to 2001 under President Bill Clinton. She agreed to and condoned the overly strict sanctions that were placed on Iraq where 500,000 children died due to disease and malnourishment. She knew these sanctions were useless against the power structure in Iraq but she said "They were worth it." She also worked hard for the bombing and destruction of Yugoslavia - that unmitigated debacle known as Madeleine's War.
"If we have to use force, it is because we are America. We are an indispensable nation. We stand tall. We see further into the future." - Madeleine K. Albright, February 1998.
"What's the point of having this superb military that you're always talking about if we can't use it?" - Madeleine Albright.
"I'm not a person who thinks the world would be entirely different if it was run by women. If you think that, you've forgotten what high school was like." - Madeleine Albright.
@Raggedy Ann But they are being
But they are being sacrificed to the services liberalization monster. Like everything else.
Womens rights stand in the way of the liberalization because they are a historically mistreated group and they want to keep the job shift under the radar, so want to keep the "element of surprise" This is why some in high places have been critical of journalists who report on trade deals, like Julian Assange. Whose organization reported on TISA, basically GATS 2, the successor and extention to GATS which has really been the trade deal from hell in many ways, causing two major disasters for Americans. (The healthcare gridlock for 26 years,during which time maybe a million excess deaths - 219 each day - excess deaths amenable to healthcare occurred, compared to other countries that spend less) and the 2008 financial crisis)
This paper (link below) is interesting because the arguments for and against having preferences involve complex questions, which can also be emotionally charged.
Its quite typical for example for companie to replace entire departments.
For example, Walt Disney company did this and they were widely criticized. The question really goes to the commoditization and globalization of a great many jobs, which can be done over a network..
Doing the work remotely from the other side of the world is invariably much cheaper.
. , So the issue has the potential to set women back and divest a great many of them of their jobs as well.
Many Americans may leave and attempt to follow their professions overseas, if that is where all the jobs in their field have gone, they may have little choice if they want to remain in it. That may be a good choice for many, Here they might be just getting by while elsewhere their meagre paycheck goes farther and everybody elseis poor so they dont feel so embattled. Here they may be fighting gentrificatio and marginal employment . Certain kinds of necessities are so much cheaper overseas they seem almost free. Or they may even be free...
Here is a linked paper paper on preferences and SMEs (small and medium sized enterprizes) which touches on some of the issues. In a sense these changes like the LDC Services aiver is supposed to be a sort of payback to developing countries firms for their alleged exclusion from the world economy as shown by the dearth of billionaires in the bigger Asian countries and the huge gains made by US billionaires recently. (Billionaires now are kind of what millionaires used to be, millionaires - being fairly common. lots of people you see are probably millionaires when their assets are totaled up. They just have saved a lot of money fr retirement. However many Americans have never made enough to save much money and its worse now than ever before. So one has to question the wisdom of exporting a lot of jobs now. Alan Blinder (Princeton economist) estimates the number of US jobs that are "offshorable" to be very high.. (link to Blinder and a replication study of his work on my web site policyspace dot xyz. Blinder estimated 26% of our jobs were offshorable but he made a big nmistake he left (the former, as GATS basically eliminated almost all services abilities to remain public unless they are both totally noncommercial and have no commecial aspects or competition) public services out the replication study of his work estimated around 40% of US jobs were offshorable, but they both left out public services, assuming they were safe. Bad move because of GATS and TISA jobs where there is a public spending component will likely be more impacted than others.And earlier in the poocess. Some sectors are particularly liely to be outsourced and/or offshored for the reason that portions o trade agreements have been writen and signed that direct specific attention to them ) BTW environmental goods and services are one.
Here is the SME paper which seems tome to apply to a large degree (even if not formally written to pply to GATS the same kind of thinking is involved) applies to both GATS and the Government Procurement Agreement.
The Limited Case for Permitting SME Procurement Preferences in the WTO Agreement on Government Procurement
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1725023
Develping countries are convinced that the governents of developed countries are obsessed about putting obstacles of every possible kind so they don't get the payback for the world trade agenda they were promised.
They think that every regulation we enact, just about is aimed at snatching the jobs they are owed out of their grasp, it often seems. In particular they see labor laws and minimum wages are a deliberate obstacle (if they apply to them, I would not be surprised if the 2017 I-corp decision was challenged by India in their pending in their DS503 WTO dispute, (also see this link) which is pending, the documents to which are not public. Would that eliminate minimum wages? Probably not for American citizens, however its quite possible, even likely that they would allow workers here on L1 trade visas to be paid whatever they and their employers agree on, even nothing. That seems to be the way it was for some workers previous to the i-corp case, at least in some jobs that begun before 2017.)
In DuckDuckGo, era shows up as 4th result, right on front page
Good morning Granma. That makes sense,
but I used das googler because so common and prevalent. Still, #4. Ah well
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
When women get paid
a Dollar for Dollar, not $0.75 on the dollar wage, for doing the same thing as the Dollar paid man, I might consider that we have made a significant step toward equality.
So, I am taking my guy to the ophthalmologist Friday. It occurred to me that we would be 30 minutes closer to Galveston. I found a motel right on the beach, got a room for 2 nights with an ocean view, but since a flesh eating bacteria is in the water, we will look, but not go in.
The Moody Gardens Butterfly Center is close by, so we might get some good pictures.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
The State of the Gender Pay Gap in 2021
I always think this stuff is deceptive
Determining the "same qualifications" can be easily manipulated.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
I believe the methodology is fairly robust
It would be extremely difficult to manipulate and skew these statistical findings plus I don't see any rational to do so.
The thing with "equally qualified"
can hide a multitude of things, which is why I find that language suspect. "Help wanted, must have high school diploma" covers both the boss' doofus son who got through with a c- average and somebody with an AA or BA because they all meed the qualification threshold, or a journeyman carpenter with 8 years in house experience working for the family firm and one with 8 years experience working for a custom house builder and possibly somebody with one year's experience depending upon how the "qualification" is interpreted. Etc.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
These types of firms allow one to compare
their wage/benefit packages with others who have similar skills and experience. Twenty years ago workers didn't have these tools so employers could readily take advantage of those who weren't as aggressive and/or knowledgeable of their value in demanding equitable compensation.
Thanks.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
@enhydra lutris There is a pressure,
There is a pressure, coming from international trade instruments, and related pressures, to make business recognize other countries professional qualifications in order so as to allow more firms and workers to fully participate in the globalization of many kinds of work. (jobs requiring "special" qualifications and a purported shortage of "qualified" workers also willing to become ultra flexible contingent temporary workers in the kinds of international semi-professional jobs which are the primary targets of services liberalization)
At the same time, many practitioners in certain parts of the world claiming such credentials in reality lack such qualifications, for one reason or another. The reasons vary quite a bit, Some countries have self-limited training capacity.
For example in one of the largest countries in the world it recently emerged that the WHO considered 80% of the people who were actively practicing medicine to not be doctors. This information became quite controversial. In any case, in large parts of the world the percentage of people with fake qualifications (people buying degrees without ever setting foot in a classroom) is very very high. This is likely because of high levels of corruption.
Good morning otc. You got it.
Motel and butterfly garden sound wonderful.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Gender pay gap under services liberalization
I think the chances are much more likely the men would be making 75 cents than women wages going up in the midst of the biggest shift in at least 50 years. Jobs being offshored and outsourced. The wage ratio is likely as bad as here or worse in the labor supplying countries. Generally they seem to be countries where men hold much more of the jobs and are paid more even than US men relative to women
From the Seneca Falls Women's Rights Convention,
the Declaration of Sentiments and Resolutions The most contentious resolution was the ninth:
Interesting that only 100 out of the 300 attendees signed the declaration. Some objected to the suffrage resolution as too radical. Others were more interested in focusing on abolition or temperance movements.
In honor of National Raspberry Cake Day - what I consider as a perfect little cake - Raspberry Ricotta Cake (Reduce all ingredients by a third for an 8" cake.) Even better than raspberry is a combination of fresh peach and blackberries, freeze both for an hour or so.
Good afternoon Marie. Thanks. It was,
for its time, controversial for sure.
be well and have a good one.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Hi EL, and all!
Love the ERA and women's rights history. Yeah, it was mega-big in the 70's... fell off the radar. Delay, dilute, and death, seems to have been the R plan. Just like everything else.
That X-15 was something. Bunch of great vids on utoobs of it. As a child 5 to 15 years old, family did the Edwards AFB airshow annually, the premium one with the most radical experimental stuff. Saw B-70 fly whilst under the other one, and several shows with SR-71 flying, U-2 every year. But an X-15 was always a static display you could walk right up to it, along with other earliest lifting body craft. What a 'rocket plane' the 15 was. I think maybe 86 seconds or so of fuel at first. That is pretty fast to 4000 mph! I gotta 96 Mazda pickup 4 cylinder can't get to 60 in 86 seconds.
Free Bird was great the first year it was out before the radio stations found it.
That Annie and Aretha was awesome! Never saw it. Great stuff!
Get Together and Work Together were awesome together.
Thanks for the good stuff!
Have good ones all!
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
Good evening Dysto, thanks for dropping by.
Some other air shows and events, but never made it to Edwards. Drove by it a lot on various desert runs.
Heh, sorta liked the get together/work together combo myself.
Be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --