It appears that a lot of black people 'ain't black'

How does one square this comment with this headline?

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Roughly one quarter of non-white voters cast their ballots for Trump, according to an Edison exit poll. If the poll is an accurate reflection of final results, Trump will have won over more non-white voters than any Republican since Richard Nixon, who won 32 percent of the non-white vote in 1960 but lost to John F. Kennedy. Trump will also have improved on his performance in the 2016 election when he won 21 percent of the non-white vote...
However, the Edison poll showed that support for Trump rose among African Americans, Asians, and Latinos. In particular, 18 percent of black men voted for Trump in 2020 compared with 13 percent in 2016, and black women increased support for Trump from 4 percent in 2016 to 8 percent in 2020. Trump also roughly doubled his share of gay voters.

In 2016, Donald Trump got a lower share of the white vote than Mitt Romney in 2012, and Trump's support with white male voters dropped another 5 points in 2020.
In other words, Trump is losing and under-performing the exact kind of voter that the liberals stereotype him with.
So how do liberals respond to these undeniable facts? By denying reality.

MSNBC's Joy Reid said late Wednesday that "there's a great amount of racism and anti-blackness" in the U.S., with the prime-time host adding it is "aggravating" and "disappointing" the results of the presidential election are so close and President Trump faces no "repudiation."
...“I think even though we intellectually understand what America is at its base, right?" she said. "That there is a great amount of racism, anti-blackness, anti-wokeness, this idea that political correctness is some scheme to destroy white America, right?"

So Joy Reid is saying essentially the same thing as Biden - anyone who votes for Trump is doing it for racist reasons, and thus ain't black.
Of course Reid also slandered the same thing about Bernie supporter.
Could it be that liberals take on reality is all wrong?

Research by political scientist Ashley Jardina shows that identification with whiteness has actually declined over Trump’s tenure. Whites have also grown less likely to express prejudiced attitudes about blacks and Hispanics.

In short, to the extent that Republican votes are being ‘driven’ by race, it seems to be in the opposite way from what the prevailing narrative would suggest. Rather than energizing people who would have otherwise sat out, Trump seems to have suppressed turnout in 2016 among white Republican-leaning voters.

How long will liberals deny the facts?

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he would have had no trouble being re-elected. IMHO, the Bankers have switched from the reckless and inconsistent Trump to their old reliable servant, Biden.

Hey dems, go manufacture some more ballots!

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

Conservative commentators - those who claim to be "normies" but are really right leaning, at least now, always confuse "progressives" with "identity politics". Every time I hear that want to shake them. progressiveism is diametricly opposed to identity politics, it is an attempt to separate ourselves from identity politics, which is nothing but a divide-and-conquer tactic the racist oligarchy is using against us. But mom and pop Americans are getting on to the ploy. Voting for Trump is not an answer, but voting against Biden is a sign

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On to Biden since 1973

@doh1304

This was unavoidable.

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neoliberal politicians who continue to crap on America's African-origin populations.

And their designated population of übermenschen, the Left, continues to slip further into the land of fantasy.

https://caucus99percent.com/content/why-i-have-so-little-confidence-nice...

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"there's something so especially sadistic about waving the flag of a country that you're actively destroying" -- Aaron Mate

think there is some magic combination of panders that will put them over the finish line. I don't know who they listen to....most of them are so removed from our lives they must have people to advise them on us common folks travails. It seems if they stuck with the basics, health care, education, social security, jobs, with decent plans to implement them they'd have a better shot at winning. Stick with the things that concern just about everyone.

Then bring up the bills in the normal way for these "radical socialist" ideas. By hitching their wagon to the notion that the future of America is in a collection of minorities as opposed to "white America" they play the same game as the Trump Party. You can't say you're for everybody and then blame half the country for the problems of the other half and unite people.

In the end America is like a fleet of taxis owned by capitalists. They put nothing into the rigs. The engine knocks, the brakes don't work, there's rust and they get no maintenance. They charge us a lot to ride this crappy death trap and are determined to run it into the ground. The owners don't care cause the got theirs. I know this is true because if it wasn't things would have changed for the better during the last 50 years.

I think America is done. The politicians have seen Trump do just about anything he wanted to. That is the biggest drug dream of any politician and it's going to be the new norm. I don't see anyone, any party with the ability to put it back together.

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@Snode

You can't say you're for everybody and then blame half the country for the problems of the other half and unite people.

Half a century after the King assasination it's time to pull together with all races recognizing the concerns and rights of others. No Master race, white or black or red or yellow. E Pluribus Unum or we all suffer from race wars. Those black bigots at #BLM belong in the same grave as the hooded bigots of the KKK.

Being equal doesn't mean being homogeneous. On some TV program I heard someone say, "Not a melting pot, but a stew with identifiable bits floating in a common sauce." I like that analogy.

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

But since you brought up the subject, it was the subject of a discussion here about a week back..

From Poll Deep Diving 6

BR replies to (OP)Marie:

If Minnesota is solid...
and hasn't gone Republican since, what, 1972... then why would Biden
have put it on his schedule?

Also, you seem to dislike Rasmussen, but in their daily tracking of likely black voters they have Trump at 31%. OK, they could be wrong. BUT - even if they are over-rating Trump support there by half - that would still leave Trump at 15%, nearly double what he got in 2016 and the highest by a Republican since 1976.

Matt Towery, who has decades of polling experience said, speaking of Pennsylvania that

“Trump also continues to hold about 14% of the African American vote in this survey. In twenty years of polling, and as one who has polled Pennsylvania many times, I have never seen a Republican candidate consistently hold these type of numbers among black voters this close to an election. And this appears to be a developing trend in numerous states.”

source

So, we'll find out soon enough, but is there any way Biden wins if Trump ends up with 14-15% of the AA vote? (I'm pretty sure we can agree Biden is toast at anything higher than that.)

Forget about all the rappers endorsing Trump - what about people like *this*?

Straight outta Flint:

(video of Flint, MI Democrat City Councillor Maurice Davis 10/28/20 speech at Flint, Michigan Trump Rally)

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Submitted by Marie on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 1:34am
Can we agree that Trump loses if
his white vote drops to 54%?

Since I haven't been talking about the national popular vote, slight ups and downs in id groups may or may not be relevant as to who wins.

Surely you're not serious when you postulate that AA voters are going to save Trump's ass. If you are serious, you're not even grasping at straws.

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Submitted by Blue Republic on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 10:38pm
AA voters and...
@Marie

"Can we agree that Trump loses if
his white vote drops to 54%?"

Well, no. Using the numbers from 2016

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it seems that vote totals were (slightly rounded):

White - 101 million
Hispanic - 12.7 million
Black - 16.4 million
Asian - 4.9 million

Dropping Trump's white vote from the 58% he got to your 54% takes away 4,040,000
from his total.

Doubling his AA support from 8 to 16% only offsets 130,000 of those votes and still leaves
him 3,910,000 down.

However 23% support from Asian and Hispanic voters would more than make that up.
(H+A = 17.6 million x .23 = 4.05 million)

Of course Trump could get the same PV totals and lose if the distribution was wrong. But I contend that 15% AA and 25% Asian and Hispanic are not unrealistic numbers for Trump at all.

So, as to

"Surely you're not serious when you postulate that AA voters are going to save Trump's ass. If you are serious, you're not even grasping at straws."

Not AA alone. AA plus Hispanic plus 'other' - particularly Asian. That's if his ass even requires saving...

IMHO - higher than Dems seem to be anticipating support from the Hispanic, Asian and AA demographic may well end up providing Trump with the margin he needs.

(Link to Pompano Beach, FL Vietnamese-Americans for Trump Rally video)

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Reposting that Florida rally link, hafta love the MAGA aodais...

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ1F8kUIkSA&feature=emb_logo]

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