The Ides of January

Relax. I am linking HotAir and their article on the Mind Giants at ToP and their preferences

Hmmm: Winner Of First Daily Kos 2020 Democratic Primary Mega-Poll Is…

If it's Dave Weigel you know it has to be right...

How reliable is it, though? It’s not a scientific poll, just a straw poll of dKos’s many readers. On the other hand, a lot of readers participated — 35,000. And Dave Weigel is right that Kos’s audience seems to be broader than just the left-most niche of the party. Lots of progressives there, of course, but also plenty of “just win, baby” Democrats who look like they’d tolerate a more centrist nominee if they thought he/she could beat Trump.

"Lots of progressives there"?

And the winner is Liz at 22%. Or is it 1/1024 of 22%? (sorry, couldn't help myself)

Elizabeth Warren can now rest easy about her political fortunes, having secured the backing of a group that was all-in before the 2008 cycle on … John Edwards?

Here y'a go

Warren 22%
Beto 15%
Kamala 14%
Biden 14%
Sanders 11%
Unsure 9%
Other 9%
Booker 3%
Castro and Gildebrand each 1%

See that? Unsure and Other come in 2nd at 18%. I'm loving me da Kos.

Go read. Enjoy your emancipation from the GOS.

Go ahead, no one's looking.

Can you guess the time of new edict from Markos? How about the next purge?

oooo. oooo. oooo.

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Bernie Sanders led Hillary comfortably in all of their 2016 straw polls. He is … less formidable this year.

Could it have something to do with who left?
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@gjohnsit
talking amongst themselves.

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Bollox Ref's picture

At number 2?? For having done very little, ever?

That place hasn't changed.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

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"No one is asking Hillary Clinton to run. I don't think Bernie is going to run, but you get everything that Bernie brings with Elizabeth Warren."

Center for American Progress is connected to Hillary and Obama.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

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@snoopydawg
*snicker*

Projection much, little nappy?

That little cia weasel is putting Bernie in the same egomaniacal group as Her Heinous, Trump, and himself.

I'm no longer a BernieBro, after his vote to move the embassy especially, and his roll-over-and-be-a-good-Hillbot by mid primaries, but he's not an egomaniac. The accusation is laughable, to be honest.

I'll be shocked if we don't see more attacks on Bernie, because they're still afraid of him. Obviously. Egomaniac? Bernie fucking Sanders? Wouldn't he fix his hair at least? Ffs. [Poor little nappy!]

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@Deja
anyone who is significantly progressive speaking out with a populist message, and who manages to gain enough traction to get media attention, will be the accused of being an "egomaniac, narcissist, self-promoter, blah blah".

Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Ralph Nader, Dennis Kucinich, whomever.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd

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@snoopydawg

With the subject “Run, Bernie, Run!”

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We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

@snoopydawg
between the witnesses who were straight-up lying and the ones who were stonewalling, it was impossible for him to make the case to the grand jury. i'm unimpressed by smug 20/20 hindsight BS suggesting that sensible people had figured out the investigation was going nowhere.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd

because so many people kicked sand on home plate because they weren't telling him the truth? When people don't cooperate you throw their butts in jail until they do. Both Fitzpatrick and Mueller have lots of power to get people to answer their questions.

The other message here is that once again liberals have turned the intelligence agencies into some types of supermen who are going to save the country from Trump once Mueller gets to the end of his investigation.

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But then that's a horrible place. I wouldn't expect it to be decent just like I wouldn't expect a breitbart poll to show Bernie or my savior, AOC, as favorites.

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Armando blocked me. Made my day.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

I mean, geez... if she can’t move the needle with that crowd then I seriously have to wonder who got to my Facebook friends?

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@FutureNow I recently read a thing that said she's a strong candidate because she'll likely win "the endorsement primary", which will then make her a frontrunner in the polls. I read that as "nobody likes her but she's going to be shoved down your throats so you better get in line"

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@Shahryar @Shahryar
Nobody seems to be able to suggest why they supposedly like her beyond Identity Politics marketing and that she was “a great prosecutor,” at which point I always post links about her refusal to go after Steve Mnuchin or her advocacy to see the death penalty imposed in the Kevin Cooper case and then it’s crickets.

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@FutureNow
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/05/kamala-harris-fails-to-explain-why-s...

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5980d18ee4b09d231a518205

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/17/opinion/sunday/kevin-coop...

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@Shahryar

"nobody likes her but she's going to be shoved down your throats so you better get in line"

Sounds like another corrupt Democratic candidate from the recent past? Shok

BTW, it's good to see you posting, Shah.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

be either hilarious or embarrassing (depending on your perspective) about Warren's DNA results.

as i tried to explain once before, given the inherent inaccuracy and imprecision of the test, and the statistical nature of DNA recombination during meiosis, the 1/1024 number being bandied about (i don't actually know where you got that) indicates Warren's most recent Native American ancestor would most likely have been her great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather/mother, plus or minus 1 great. this would place the ancestor's birth somewhere around 1780-1820, which is probably fairly typical for families who have a story about a Native American ancestor (much more recent than that and it wouldn't be a story, it would be someone whose name they still know). a date closer to 1820 fits well with the timetable of the trail of tears.

anyway, it's even more complicated than what i've explained here, and either way, your persistent mockery just makes you look like you don't understand the science.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd

for "native American" actually Peruvian/South American not North American?

She has Incan ancestry?

Science.

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Prof: Nancy! I’m going to Greece!
Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!

Firesign Theater

Stop the War!

@EdMass
perhaps you are unaware that the indigenous peoples of mexico and south america are descended from the same group of original asian migrants as those from the US and canada.

again, your mocking tone suggests that you simply don't understand the "Science".

Warren claimed that her family lore was that they had Cherokee ancestors (as well as Delaware ancestors, apparently). Her DNA test supports that story -- in fact, the evidence is strong enough that most scientists would probably say that the DNA test confirms native american ancestry, though not of any particular tribe, and that the most recent ancestor would appear in the family tree somewhere near the time of the Trail of Tears.

To put this in perspective, if you have an ancestor who fought in the Revolutionary War, you have almost certainly inherited less DNA from that ancestor than Warren has inherited from her native american forbears. There's a pretty good chance you've inherited none, actually. Nonetheless, I don't think anybody's going to start mocking the members of the DAR on the grounds that they don't have enough DNA from that Revolutionary War ancestor.

Warren's results are exactly what would have been expected, based on the family lore. Whence, then, the ridicule?

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd

Jeepers.

So you agree, the somewhere somehow she has Incan ancestry. Despite generations of European ancestry. so somewhere way back then a conquistador bumped a local that was lost in time yet now is relevant?

And the story of forebares eloping to a different town to escape the prejudice of her family only to be welcomed back to a big party (documented in news papers of the time) makes it true?

One of those Grands shepherded Cherokees on the trail of tears. Also documented.

I really don't want to continue with you since facts and history don't seem to matter to you.

Let's agree to disagree and move on.

Peace

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Prof: Nancy! I’m going to Greece!
Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!

Firesign Theater

Stop the War!

@EdMass
(having to do with both the underlying mechanisms of genetics, and the characteristics/nature of the analysis that was done on the sequencing data) I will not "agree to disagree", anymore than I would agree to disagree with someone asserting that the earth is flat. Warren's DNA test result is almost exactly what would have been predicted, based on the story she told and the analysis that was done, and that's just the way it is.

However, I will agree to leave you alone on the matter. I've said all that needs to be said. Henceforth, mock away without my further objection.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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So for those who dropped in because we talked about you:

Thanks for visiting!
Yes, you exist.
I used to do it too when I thought people were talking about me.
Most of you... I really don't care about. In fact, TOP with it's catty bickering bores the shit out of me.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J06yQb4lbPk]

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.