Hey Anti-Illegal Immigration Activists, I got a solution for the problem if you truely want it fixed...

I am not anti-immigrant, far from it considering my family hasn't been here for very long itself, but I do agree that we should have some controls and requirements to become a citizen, but that isn't what I want to focus on.

What I would like to address is what seems to me to be the most obvious approach to dealing with those entering or staying in the country illegally.

I feel we are coming at this issue from the opposite approach of what we should be doing and in a semi rambling conversational way, which is my general (lack of) writing style, I will try to explain why. Smile

So lets start it with a few simple questions, the first is a question involving math and numbers, but because I dislike math (There are 3 kinds of people when it comes to math, those that get it and those that don't) I am not going to bother gathering them as I think ultimately they will be self evident and even if my assumptions are off I still feel it doesn't make my proposed solution any less valid.

Which group do you think is lessor in number, the amount of workers illegally here or those companies and individuals that hire them?

I would say obviously the workers are going to be the larger group, so therefor the harder one to "Police" (it's always much easier to deal with the problem actors in a smaller group, just ask any middle school teacher who has seen their student ratios explode).

So, since there are less employers, why are we not fixating our efforts to combat this on the smaller front instead of trying to engage in widespread roundups, building holding facilitates and conducting expensive deportations?

When you want to take over a nation, do you go and take each individual town, village or hamlet, occupy them and throw all the citizenry into cages, or do you take the large centers of industry and the capital and dismantle it's military production and leadership capabilities?

So taking these thoughts into account, wouldn't it make more sense for us to direct our law enforcement/INS efforts towards creating an enforcement arm of the Department of Labor, who's sole goal is to investigate and audit companies to insure that they are not hiring people illegally and if they are caught willfully doing so subjecting them to MASSIVE penalties and sanctions?

Said agents wouldn't even need guns to combat the problem, just calculators.

The sanctions would need to be big enough that it cannot be "Just a cost of doing business" in order to be effective and it could even be on a tiered scale or even just a set flat percentage of gross revenue, not Net as that would be too easy to work around.

These penalties would need to large enough to seriously wound these companies bottom line, but not to the point that it would cause them to be shut down and lead to unemployment of their workforce, just big enough to hurt their shareholders. (Who I am quite sure would then be replacing said CEO.)

After all, we know where EVERY SINGLE COMPANY is located! We don't need to spend massive resources tracking them down, they file papers and do business out of fixed locations largely which makes it much easier to monitor and conduct random inspections of them.

This would HAVE to be cheaper than building a wall and hiring tons of armed INS agents to patrol and guard it. (Leaving aside the obvious fact that the larger portion of those that illegally enter the country do so either via Air or Sea anyway.) Not to mention all the individual states resources that get dedicated to combating the problem.

It is also much more likely to be successful because the biggest reason people come here is for jobs, but if there are no jobs available then there would be less reason to overstay your visa illegally.

If you come here without paperwork and the employers can't write off any fines as a minor cost of doing business than those coming solely looking for employment largely will not come without going through the proper steps to do so, and those that are already here will begin to either self deport or start on a path towards citizenship, creation of which of course would have to go hand in hand with such a strategy.

We could allow a general period of amnesty for those that can establish that they were already here at time of passage and give them the opportunity to apply for a new class of temporary visa that is contingent on them immediately starting the process of becoming citizens and as long as they are doing so their employers can continue to employee them. They could be provided with Temporary Tax ID numbers in lieu of a Social Security number and start paying taxes and receiving services while doing so.

They could also then get Drivers Licenses and therefore also obtain auto and health insurance, seriously reducing the massive numbers of uninsured motorists which is driving up insurance rates in states that have a large illegal population and decreasing already overtaxed emergency rooms.

It just seems like this is such a common sense approach that I cannot fathom why NOBODY in congress on the Right or Left is proposing such. It completely fits in with RW ideology by both cutting down on illegals (I.E. Brown People) and being a more fiscally smart approach and should appeal to "Democrats" as well as it is a smart, compassionate approach to the problem. (Well, the end of that last line just made me sound a bit of a braggart, lol!)

This does not address those that are fleeing here as political refugee's from Destabilized Latin American nations of course, but that is a much smaller percentage of those coming and would in fact free up enough resources that we could properly address them as well but that is a subject for an Essay in and of itself.

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Alphalop's picture

The businesses that would be hurt by such a proposal are also those that provide the bribes Campaign Contributions to those whom we need to enact such a law...

So much for that idea... Back to the drawing board.

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Oldest Son Of A Sailor's picture

So meanwhile lets use it as a diversion to occupy the minds of the 99% until we strip them down to the economic level of the illegal immigrants then the immigration problem is solved...

They won't want to come here because there is nothing left to gain...

Yes TPP!

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that most businesses (including T-rumps and the Clinton's) are addressed in Maryland where tax sheltering is easy. It would indeed be a "shell" game to unwind an actual location. What a web we weave ...

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Oldest Son Of A Sailor's picture

That has the "Corporate Post Office" used by the Clintons and Trump...

1209 North Orange Street
Wilmington, Delaware...

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I was geographically close anyway. I still bet it would be a shell game!

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Oldest Son Of A Sailor's picture

Close enough to call it like it is...

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incident to employers who hired illegals and tougher border enforcement. We had illegals working for us in NM at the time and we promptly let them go because even transporting an illegal was a $10K fine.

That's when the I-9 form started. Employers were REQUIRED to verify status of prospective employees. There was even a number to call to verify the SS#, etc. The subsequent E-verity program was so successful, they stopped using it.

What happened next? They shut down the immigration stops along I-25 where we lived, literally closed the check points, illegals didn't even have to go off the highway to avoid them. Major employers resorted to temp agencies and sublet work to other companies to avoid liability. The only people who stopped using illegal labor were small employers like us who couldn't afford the possibility of a fine. The rest is history, there was no tougher border enforcement, large employers enjoyed the cheap labor they always did and we now have not 3 million, but 11-12 million illegals to deal with.

"Reagan thought he was trading a small amnesty for all-important workplace enforcement and increased border security. But once the amnesty was done and multiplying far beyond expectations, the special interests went to work at killing enforcement at the employment place. The chief culprits were the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and large agriculture corporations that lobbied Congress into backing off enforcement."

http://www.vdare.com/posts/ed-meese-says-reagan-regretted-1986-amnesty

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On the few occasions someone's documents were false, I was required to call and report it. I only called once because they told me they weren't interested in one or two people, and not to call them again unless I had a group of 50 or so to report.

This will never be changed. Big business has things just the way it wants them and they pay their politicians well to keep it that way.

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Alphalop's picture

enact common sense reforms.

I am not surprised that they didn't want to deal with it as their budget probably sucks and they get more calls then they have resources.

This is where creating a sub agency of the Labor Dept. that has as it's ONLY duty the investigation and prosecution of such cases be it 1 employee or 100.

It would only take a few dozen big fines and stories before we saw a change.

The side bonus is it would help with increasing wages as they are forced to compete more for workers.

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either.

California at one point had that horrible "Narc on your neighbor" law that let you get a percentage of the assets seized if your tip lead to a major bust.

Got at least one innocent man killed by a greedy neighbor and zealous swat team. (Neighbor "ratted" that he was a dealer because he always saw him driving nice cars, didn't work, had a nice house. Long story short? Nope not an illegal substance to be found on the property or in his toxicology report.)

Somehow I don't think it would be nearly as dangerous when a group of guys show up with briefcases and calculators rather than body armor and machine guns...

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