FYI, THEY ARE SHUTTING DOWN MY DIARY ON HOW EMAIL WORKS OVER ON TOP!
Submitted by Older and Wiser Now on Wed, 06/22/2016 - 4:03pm
Email 101 - a Primer to help w/OIG report about Hillary's Private Server
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/6/22/1528804/-Email-101-a-Primer-to...
No recs, one or more flags.
If someone wants to come over and help, that would be lovely. If not, I hope you have a good day.
FYI, what I have posted is a subset of the information previous posted her on C99. You can read it here.
http://caucus99percent.com/content/email-and-cybersecurity-dummies-prime...
**Thanks to everyone who came over to help**, last time I looked I had a net of 3 recs and the tip jar is no longer hidden.
Comments
Forget them.
Leave forever you won't regret it.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
I lost my ability to rec
over a month ago. Still NR. Sorry. Screw 'em.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
It s a fetid swamp full of Allihaters over there...
Sorry, but I don't go there anymore, haven't in a long time and I don't miss it at all.
I would suggest you leave the asylum to the lunatics.
It's mind over matter, I don't mind what they say because they don't matter to me.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Rec'd the diary and tip jar
Flagged a couple flaming assholes.
First time I've been on that shit hole in weeks.
" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "
Thank you so much, I appreciate it!
~OaWN
As did I...
My first trip there in quite some time...
My advice to the diarist is leave...
I'm seriously not interested in rescuing diaries in trouble there despite being factually correct...
The audience there has no interest in facts...
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
That sums it up precisely...
If I thought we were gonna reach anyone there I would totally be all over it.
But some battles cannot be won, it is just a simple fact.
To go and subjugate myself to the shitty atmosphere at that place wouldn't be a good thing so I just ignore it for now.
Plus I know if I go I will probably end up banned and when I do eventually get banned it is gonna be with a gigantic, "Fuck you! We warned you!" diary.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Yes, it's just infuriating and unhealthy...
The worst part is you can't even have a single fact-based conversation, ever, over there.
No matter how neutral the fact, it immediately gets nasty responses and name calling. Although, I freely admit, I am basing that statement on activities prior to March 15, but from what I hear here, things haven't improved.
Yeah, I stopped going about a month or so ago.
but once Markos let the hounds off their leashes with his edict the place really fell off the rails.
It was like all the fake progressives were just waiting for the opportunity to no longer be forced to pretend about being so.
The tone worsened after the 15th, but then once the rules against ad-hominem attacks stopped being enforced against one side only it really soured.
I worked in the prison system for over 13 years and THAT was less toxic than Dkos, lol!
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
God it's awful
The comments look like a nonstop tantrum.
Why not just post that diary here?
The way they comment over there is so out of reason, they don't deserve that diary.
I already posted a more complete version of the diary over here
This one is just focused on how email works.
I write over there for the lurkers, not the assholes. I'd like as many laypersons as possible to have an understanding of how email actually works, because most non-technical people do not understand why what she did is different than just getting a gmail account.
FYI, the more complete version is here:
http://caucus99percent.com/content/email-and-cybersecurity-dummies-prime...
~OaWN
oh sorry, can't quite keep up reading and memorizing all the
diaries here. Hope to get back to that one in a couple of days.
And thank you, you are very kind
~OaWN
Maybe it's time to break a bad habit...
Pretending they'll come to their senses or that they'll do anything but reject and hide rate anything that threatens their current belief structure is a pointless endeavor.
When Markos wants them to shift what they think and believe, they will.
Stop trying to break the cult belief system over there. Stop trying to get paid shills and sock puppets to not be sock puppets. It's not going to happen.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pubd-spHN-0 width:500 height:400]
Not to get too religious
But a-friggin-men.
TOP is lost. It is with her. It is useless unless your blood pressure is dangerously low.
mine is actually dangerously low but I still cannot go there.
Don't believe everything you think.
Well of course they are, they're in serious denial
you don't jibe with their narrative. But kudos to you for taking the time, that is an excellent breakdown of "how it works". I'm shocked to see such a reaction to actual fact over there. Your piece is the kind of writing I used to go there for, once upon a time. But they got nothing but trolls over there now. It's godawful. Thank you for trying, though!
I don't click on them anymore--well, I did, just now, for the first time in almost (3 weeks? My last comment was like June 2 or 3, I think). But I figure to keep my hand in there long enough to produce my magnum opus for The Day After. It's all going to be built around that Guns-n-Roses song, Civil War:
Look at your young men fighting
Look at your women crying
Look at your young men dying
The way they've always done before
Look at the hate we're breeding
Look at the fear we're feeding
Look at the lives we're leading
The way we've always done before
My hands are tied
The billions shift from side to side
And the wars go on with brainwashed pride
For the love of God and our human rights
And all these things are swept aside
By bloody hands time can't deny
And are washed away by your genocide
And history hides the lies of our civil wars
D'you wear a black armband
When they shot the man
Who said, "Peace could last forever."
And in my first memories
They shot Kennedy
An' I went numb when I learned to see
So I never fell for Vietnam
We got the wall of D.C. to remind us all
That you can't trust freedom
When it's not in your hands
When everybody's fightin'
For their promised land
And
I don't need your civil war
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
I don't need your civil war
Look at the shoes you're filling
Look at the blood we're spilling
Look at the world we're killing
The way we've always done before
Look in the doubt we've wallowed
Look at the leaders we've followed
Look at the lies we've swallowed
And I don't want to hear no more
My hands are tied
For all I've seen has changed my mind
But still the wars go on as the years go by
With no love of God or human rights
'Cause all these dreams are swept aside
By bloody hands of the hypnotized
Who carry the cross of homicide
And history bears the scars of our civil wars
"WE PRACTICE SELECTIVE ANNIHILATION OF MAYORS AND GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS
FOR EXAMPLE TO CREATE A VACUUM
THEN WE FILL THAT VACUUM
AS POPULAR WAR ADVANCES
PEACE IS CLOSER" **
I don't need your civil war
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
And I don't need your civil war
I don't need your civil war
I don't need your civil war
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
I don't need your civil war
I don't need one more war
I don't need one more war
Whaz so civil 'bout war anyway
[* Strother Martin — from the film "Cold Hand Luke"
** Peruvian Guerrilla General]
Re: TOP in serious denial
Yes, The Oligarchy Palace is in serious denial.
Anyway, I went over there, signed in really quick, tipped and recced it, and signed back out. When I left it had 17 recs and 10 in the tip jar.
Thank you Mike! It has 33 recs now, I think I'm safe
~OaWN
PS please post it here, it's awesome!
Fuck them. Seriously!
Thank you lunachickie!
FYI, I already posted a more complete version here:
http://caucus99percent.com/content/email-and-cybersecurity-dummies-prime...
~OaWN
Thanks much for the repost
Had missed it a couple weeks ago, but it's a super impressive array of information.
TY! It's nice that more people are having
a chance to look at it today. Maybe that is a silver lining ...
~OaWN
Well,
I went over there and dropped a link to Politifact. I will probably be flagged for it. In my over eight years there, I have been flagged exactly once for disagreement (a flagging violation). Now I wish I had not gone back. I cannot do this again OAW.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Thank you gulfgal
Thank you for coming over this time.
I do respect your right to set boundaries though, so in the future do what you have to do ...
~OaWN
I Can't Go Back Again Either
on the plus side, though, I did read a fun post about Trump's visit to Scotland tomorrow. Apparently Trump's Scot neighbors will be flying Mexican flags to welcome him.
ha ha ha! I'm glad you had a bit of fun
I'm part Scot myself - we do have a certain wiseass nature.
~OaWN
I was once flagged...
for saying that Obama was, and still is, killing people with his drone program...my comment was specifically about the extra judicial murder of Anwar al-Awlaki.
Saw
And tipped ya gg.
There is no such thing as TMI. It can always be held in reserve for extortion.
Left a couple comments, tip jar was gone
Those folks cussed Snowdon (&other whistleblowers) as Traitors -- now, HRC's server alone is enough for an Espionage Act conviction.
They don't want to know anything except SHE'S their prez.
Exactly. Snowden is an exile over leaking classified info
But if Clinton has a little oopsie, no big deal? WTF?
~OaWN
Haven't been there in several weeks. Only keeping my
account so I can go back and say 'I told you so' when HRC begins implementing the Republican agenda.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK | "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine." - G. B. Shaw Bernie/Tulsi 2020
when Hills implements Repub agenda?
they'll love it! They'll think it's the greatest thing in the world. They'll think it's brilliant strategy and great leadership. You can tell them you told them so and they'll act like hyenas.
Very true. And very depressing.
~OaWN
Yes, she'll be playing elebenty-billion dimensional chess...
or something. It only LOOKS like she's following a Republican agenda... Please....
Sigh. Good point.
Same arguments that were used for Obama, except now in spades.
~OaWN
I saw the tip jar was gone.
There is no point in going there. There is no one to reach.
The front page is junk. MB and Hunter are writing such trivial stuff, I stopped reading them months ago.
Egberto is the only one who seems to be independent. I am surprised he is still there.
The right column is junk. Just skimming through new postings, all junk.
nomandates wrote some BNR's, but I figure that will stop soon.
Serious topics which need to be discussed can't be mentioned without a fight. Fracking, health care as a right, campaign finance reform, rising taxes on the wealthy, raising the minimum wage, expanding Social Security...any of these bread and butter progressive issues will lead to a fight.
These are the issues that progressives agree about.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
These are the issues that progressives USED
To agree about over there when Bush was president.
But once Obama got elected and started using drones in 7 countries, continued the Afghanistan war, destroyed Libya and Syria and then put troops back in Iraq, the people on that site found those things acceptable.
And they don't care that Hillary helped destroy Libya, wants to put ground troops in Syria, create a no fly zone there which might mean war with Russia. Besides the one that Obama is setting up now.
Plus everyone was exited about the Iran deal, except for Hillary.
I can't wait to see what she does to Iran for her friends in Israel.
Her history of what she did during her time as SOS is plain to see, yet people apparently over there don't care how many more innocent civilians are going to be killed once they elect her.
Remember, many things are only wrong when it's a republican doing them.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
There are no progressives on that cesspool of a blog n/t
^^^This!!!^^^ {n/t)
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
The tip jar is back, with 23 recs now ...
I write for those who read TOP, not those who blog there.
IMHO, it is in all of our best interest for as many people as possible to understand what HRC did.
And to do that, non-technical people need to understand the difference between a personal email account and a private email server.
We'll see what happens in July, and in November. I will likely be gone too after that ...
~OaWN
It was a bit weird on March 1 though.
When Markos basically announced that, after two weeks, his site was going to be Clinton sycophants only. I suppose his dictum was hard to take seriously after fourteen years of relatively free speech. The place is now basically RedState for Goldwater Girl fans.
If you're going to stay over there, here's a thought: since your current audience is invested in a phenomenal level of insecurity, why not send them a music diary composed entirely of lullabies and ambient music? Invite the Kossacks over for tea -- chamomile and kava only?
'French theory is a product of US cultural imperialism." -- Gabriel Rockhill
Don't forget to link to
sadviolin.com if you do that.
It's one of my favorites
Chamomile and Kava
Really.
We have much to discuss.
Toss in some Iocaine powder I will come and watch that. :)
but barring such an event I doubt I will be a shitshow central anytime soon.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
I go for don midwest's contributions
to the BNR. When that series stops, there will be no reason to go there ever again.
I joined 10 years ago.
Well, I will enjoy myself elsewhere for the next 10 years.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Some of those people are classless and rude.
These New Democrats sure have their shorts in a collective bunch, don't they?
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Some? lol
~OaWN
I wonder what a casual observer,
coming across Dead State for the first time, would make of it?
Hopefully, it would repel them.
It certainly repels me, and I'm surprised people still go on about it.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
I went....
long enough to rec your diary and read a few comments. The hatred, assumptions of your motives, and ad hominem attacks against you (as well as Kossacks for Sanders and this place) made me have to leave. That place is a cesspool. It isn't worth your energy. They do not welcome differing opinions. All that is left there is party sycophants.
Thank you so much, cbu!
I'm starting to pick up on a theme now, lol
~OaWN
TOP
All that remains there (as active users, anyway) are Hellery's yes-folks.
I recommend cold turkey.
On Russian Rye. With lettuce, tomato, mayo and mustard.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Yummy!
For sure, the bloggers are pretty much all of the same mind.
~OaWN
Done. If they're so secure about Clinton's "win," why don't
they just leave such diaries alone if they don't like them?
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Thank you ec. Your the best!
Your avatar has new meaning for me now ...
~OaWN
Heh. Was I being catty?
I was trying to be nice to the Hillbots. Sorta.
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No, not at all.
I just think about you at home with your kitty now, that's all
~OaWN
Ah, I see. Well, a true picture of home with the animals
would be a lot more disorganized!
I just heard back from the vet. Nothing abnormal was found on any of the tests. So we continue at quarter-dose insulin and watch our diabetic pootie carefully.
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So glad to hear it, ec.
~OaWN
Because they are like their leader, it's not enough to beat your
opponent down...
You gotta shoot them in the head to make sure they never even consider getting up again.
Their master may be a sociopath, but her followers are just pathetic bullies by and large...
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
It may be that. I certainly have seen some pathetic bullying.
But I also wonder if they're not as confident of the coming FBI results as they like to pretend.
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I supported you . . .
. . . with a rec and a comment.
Marilyn
"Make dirt, not war." eyo
Thank you mhagle!
I was worried that the diary itself was going to be hidden, but it looks like there is no danger of that now.
~OaWN
I'm sorry I can't help you out, woman.
You are an excellent writer and I pretty much agree with everything you say, but that place is a snakepit and a cesspool now. I go over once a day to see what's on the Rec List, and I marvel at how there is no differentiation in thought anymore: everybody agrees with everybody else. It is a true, and very sad, echo chamber now.
People like SantaFe Marie are horrible for the Democratic Party, but those people don't even pretend to fucking care anymore. It's amazing to watch the things they say now that we're not there, now that they think they've "won" some imaginary internet goal.
It's pathetic, what's become of DailyKos and what's become of the Democratic Party. As far as I'm concerned, they can all go fuck themselves. They no longer deserve my time and attention and, dare I say, I don't think you should be giving them yours.
Just my humble opinion. I hope you're well! Much love.
I miss Colorado.
No problem, Shiz.
Thank you so much for dropping by here and adding a note. And making me ::blush::
It is pretty awful over there.
Much love back to you too, and wishing you the best
~OaWN
Dear OAW: please do not stir up the goldfish!
It is animal cruelty. Stirring up those poor benighted folks--you won't get them to think, no matter how fast they swim in circles. I used to do that until, alas, I realized that they were, after all, only goldfish--not even big enough for an alligator to eat.
ha ha ha ha ha
Have I ever told you, you are just about the cutest Alligator that I've ever seen?
There is something about your avatar - it cracks me up.
Thank you for the giggles.
~OaWN
I read that. It
was a good read for those wanting to be informed, which on GOS, is no-one. I couldn't rec it though... my privileges are suspended.
One thing you left out (I think) is that Pagliano(sp) failed to purchase an SSL certificated for and undetermined length of time. Several months, making it a target for anyone with a port sniffer.
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
Thanks for dropping by and letting me know
FYI, I was trying to keep things at a high level, so I did leave out a lot of details.
Basically wanted a "normal person" to grasp that a personal email account is very different than a private email server, and that what Clinton was doing was not the same as what they might have done when they signed up for a gmail account, etc.
~OaWN