Friday Open Thread ~ "Looking back at the headlines" edition~ a jobs report & stolen remains

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One thing I think getting missed is that the US decided to let everyone get laid off and do its subsidies through expanded unemployment, rather than the type of furlough scheme done in the UK, where the government stepped in to pay the wages so that people could remain in jobs. The result of this is that people feel no loyalty to old work and have every reason not to—so why return to those crap conditions? Your boss was happy to dump you off the payroll, possibly while getting a federal bailout, but now they’re complaining that you don’t want to come back?

Also: The first round of expanded unemployment gave people $600 a week extra. That was hardly eating-bonbons money, yet we heard about people having the ability to pay the bills for the first time with it. That expired, and I’ve spoken to workers who spent months wondering what would happen to them. The persistent story since the last crisis was pervasive underemployment—2008 wiped out a lot of middle-wage jobs and replaced them with low-wage jobs.

So the re-expanded deal was $300 extra a week—the equivalent of $7.50 an hour at 40 hours. These are not cushy benefits in the least! A one-time stimulus check of $600 and then another of $1,400 (which by the way a lot of people haven’t gotten, including, er, me) is definitely not “retire and watch HBO” money. What it is is exactly what unemployment was designed to do: allow people to have some breathing room before having to accept the first crappy job that came along. That’s the point of unemployment insurance, which we pay into so that it’s there when we need it. That this is some government handout is utterly ridiculous, and it harks back to the godawful days of the welfare queen narrative.

Jobs Report Coverage Lacked Context, Worker Perspective

May 13 marked 36 years since a home occupied by MOVE, a Black radical liberation group, was bombed by police. As MOVE members marked the anniversary this year, they also are demanding justice after new information revealed the remains of two children, Tree Africa, age 14, and Delisha Africa, age 12, killed in the 1985 bombing are being used for research at the University of Pennsylvania and Princeton University. On this episode, we revisit what happened and hear from MOVE members and supporters seeking justice.

MOVE Demands Justice for Children and The Return of Stolen Remains

Let the Fire Burn explores the controversial, 1985 clash between police in Philadelphia and MOVE, a radical, non-violent, back-to-nature group. After a standoff with the group MOVE, Philadelphia Police dropped a bomb on the roof of MOVE’s home, killing 11 people including five children, and destroying approximately 61 homes. Thirty-five years later, Philadelphia is still known as “The City that Bombed Itself.” The city’s brutal show force, unjustified to many, exists as part of a decades-long tradition of violent policing aimed at African-Americans.

The Bombing of MOVE, 35 Years Later

Factory workers at a Volvo truck plant in southwest Virginia voted by 91 percent Sunday not to ratify a concession-filled contract negotiated by local and International Auto Workers (UAW) officials.

After Strike, Workers Resoundingly Reject Contract at Volvo's Virginia Truck Plant

May 19 is the birthday of Ho Chi Minh, the revolutionary that led the Vietnamese people through victorious war and revolution from the 1920s to his death in 1969. This 20-year old review is of the best biography of Ho available in English.

Half Lenin, Half Gandhi

In 1978 body snatchers really did dig up and try to ransom the corpse of the legendary actor Charlie Chaplin shortly after his death. 'Stealing Chaplin' uses this fact-based bit of skullduggery as a mere launching pad for its fact-free comedy.

Stealing Chaplin: Film Review

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of the United Nations ...

yesterday was World Bee Day (pollinators)

today is International Tea Day


Thanks for the OT philly!

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Five more (for a total of seven, so far) Oregon counties vote in favor of ditching Oregon to join with Idaho.

Five rural counties in Oregon have approved measures to leave their current state and become part of Idaho.

Voters in the counties of Malheur, Sherman, Grant, Baker, and Lake clearly expressed their desire to take tangible steps toward redrawing the borders on Tuesday. Two other rural Oregon counties, Jefferson and Union, voted in favor of similar measures last year.

More here

Idaho is all for it, apparently - as are a number of Washington counties, but it faces a tough slog in Washington and Oregon.

While there are precedents and procedures for forming new states out of existing ones or redrawing state boundaries, the procedures are cumbersome and high-population areas can override the wishes of rural ones. Which is what is at the heart of most of these movements, anyway and urban/Blue v. rural/Red tensions are evident in any number of states: NY, CA, WA...

Seems like the process needs to be streamlined, somehow.

Anyhow, the margins this time were pretty convincing, Leave beating Stay by an average 68% to 32%.

Disclosure: I'm a long-time supporter of the similar (and active) State of Jefferson movement which aims for Southwestern Oregon and Northern Cal. to split off and form an entirely new state.

That and an expanded Idaho that included much of what is now Eastern WA and OR would be ideal, but Greater Idaho has a better chance to be realized as there are fewer procedural hoops to jump through...

"Let my people go!"

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@Blue Republic @Blue Republic @Blue Republic

the stay portion to stay, especially if they are concentrated, such as in a city. My concern is situations like with South Ossetia whereby a grooup gets to incorporate a coherent stay enclave into their breakaway state by simply including it in the boundary of their break-away plebescite.

For example, if Jefferson were to include only CA counties for simplicity sake, and the rural areas voted 90% leave but Arcata voted 80% stay, for a net 60 or better combined "leave" vote. Should not there be a mechanism whereby Arcata would be allowed to stay?

be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris , the supporters of the state of Jefferson are rather like too many of the early settlers of Eastern Oregon.

          It seems they have traded their white hoods for Trump flags, MAGA hats, and as they can't organize a lynching they opt for 'Rollin' Coal' in their oversized pick-um-ups. I wish we could banish them to the pacific gyre.

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@Blue Republic terminals for export at Jordon Cove at Coos Bay, Oregon the state of Oregon keeps blocking.

Sullivan wrote that the applicants have decided to pause the development of the project while the effect of these decisions is assessed.

Jordan Cove would be the first such LNG overseas export terminal in the lower 48 states. The proposed 230-mile feeder pipeline would begin in Malin, in southwest Oregon, and end at the city of Coos Bay on the rural Oregon coast, crossing through four southern Oregon counties.
Though the latest developments likely mean that Jordan Cove is all but laid to rest, Rosenbluth said the project’s opponents want it gone completely.

Canadian pipeline company “Pembina (Pipeline) needs to see the writing on the wall and cancel this project for good so that our communities can move on to building jobs in clean energy, energy efficiency, sustainable fisheries and agriculture,” she said.

Disclosure: I am not interested having the international corporations controlling Idaho politics disrupting my life. If I did, would move to Idaho.

Propaganda is getting thick. The "little" folk are being used for their votes. Same pattern as the Big Timber interests used on rural voters for profit.

“You’re left still with these companies that have reaped these benefits, but those small cities that have supported them over the years are left in the dust,” Mac Corthell, the city manager, said.

For decades, politicians, suit-and-tie timber executives and caulk-booted tree fallers alike have blamed the federal government and urban environmental advocates for kneecapping the state’s most important industry.

Timber sales plummeted in the 1990s after the federal government dramatically reduced logging in national forests in response to protests and lawsuits to protect the northern spotted owl under the Endangered Species Act and other conservation laws. The drop left thousands of Oregonians without jobs, and counties lost hundreds of millions of dollars in annual revenue.

But the singularly focused narrative, the only one most Oregonians know, masked another devastating shift for towns like Falls City.

Wall Street real estate trusts and investment funds began gaining control over the state’s private forestlands. They profited at the expense of rural communities by logging more aggressively with fewer environmental protections than in neighboring states, while reaping the benefits of timber tax cuts that have cost counties at least $3 billion in the past three decades, an investigation by OPB, The Oregonian/OregonLive and ProPublica found.

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--When the opening appears release yourself.

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@studentofearth , we gave "testimony" regarding that pipeline project. We were out numbered by the crowd backed by corporate money. These worthies were "organized" and "prepped" to read testimony containing unfamiliar words into the record. The proceedings were so very predictable that even Cliff Bentz slipped out prematurely.

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@PriceRip is a effective tactic of corporate interests. Name calling helps to diminish the commonality of the human experience and the potential to build communication bridges. Agent provocateurs are on both sides of the major conflict to keep the disdain for the others at the forefront of our thought and actions. We do not have to fall into their plans by playing out the us vs them roles.

Oregon's first settlements were created with corporate money and it has been a progression of minority (meaning small number not ethnicity) voices of individuals who created a progressive leaning state. Good, glad you provided testimony for the record. Did you also work at creating bridges of communication?

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

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@studentofearth , however, the hostility I am running into here is far different (and more pervasive) than what I found in "Outstate" Nebraska. It will take some time to develop the connections I need to become effective.

          I was able to spot most of the "controllers" in the audience however, and the sizing-up was mutual. At least for the nonce "they" know who I am and that I am "on the job", well at least from before the pandemic hit. I have to be careful to not get too antsy to get back at "the game" as it were.

          The building of communication channels will be a bit tricky as the social dynamics are quite a bit different here compared to there.

Have a good day,


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"Creating and maintaining hostilities between parties is a effective tactic of corporate interests."

Or, let's say, tactic of authoritarian interests, generally.

They didn't kill Malcom X or MLK until they started making appeals for inclusion.

They didn't try to kill Earth First! activists until they started talking to loggers.

Name calling helps to diminish the commonality of the human experience and the potential to build communication bridges. Agent provocateurs are on both sides of the major conflict to keep the disdain for the others at the forefront of our thought and actions. We do not have to fall into their plans by playing out the us vs them roles.

Definitely agree.

If you start out on the assumption that people who disagree with you on one or another matter are racist knuckle-dragging cretinous dupes who would no doubt lack the ability, were they even to try, to comprehend or accept your enlightened view as to what's good for them... Well, not much in the way of finding common ground or effective action is likely to result.

And you end up having done the authoritarians' work for them.

Oregon's first settlements were created with corporate money and it has been a progression of minority (meaning small number not ethnicity) voices of individuals who created a progressive leaning state.

What corporate money? Hudson's Bay Company? After early day traders, trappers and missionaries the big influx of settlement from the 1840's was individual white families coming on their own initiative. There were few natives left to displace in the Willamette Valley as they had almost wiped out by disease by around 1840. Situation was different in Southern Oregon where there initially an uneasy co-existence that later flared into open conflict (Rogue Indian Wars).

As for 'progressive' - well, it's generally a small but motivated minority that makes things happen in any society and yes, Oregon's early adoption of such things as the initiative petition system and universal suffrage stand out. History of anti Asian discrimination not so much.

Unfortunately, much of the previous accomplishments have been undermined or undone more recently under the woke-authoritarianism of the likes of Kate Brown and Ted Wheeler. Who could give a shit less what people in Burns or Baker or Brookings think of them as long as the Good Germans Oregonians in their Blue enclaves continue to put up with their corruption, forever lockdowns, indoctrination of kids with insanity like Critical Race Theory and enablement of Antifa and Burn Loot Murder and allow them to remain in power.

Scholars have deliberated about the factors that contributed to the “Oregon fever” of the 1840s. Geographer William Bowen discounts the themes often recited in Fourth of July speeches that credit the patriotic idealism of immigrants and their “inspired nationalism” to win Oregon from the British. He was inclined toward a more conventional list of motives: the lingering effects of the Panic of 1837; several years of flooding in Missouri, Iowa, and Illinois; the lure of free land; the promise of economic betterment; the quest for adventure and excitement; and the promise of physical health. Chronic sickness and disease in the Mississippi Valley, Bowen concludes, rank ahead of economic considerations and all other factors as motives for people moving to Oregon. Other scholars, including historian Carlos Schwantes, argue that agrarian societies equate wealth with landholding and that hard-pressed midwestern farmers found the promise of abundant and fertile land a sufficient attraction to undertake the arduous two-thousand-mile journey to the Willamette Valley.

They came with a rush. During his reconnaissance of the Oregon Country in 1841, Charles Wilkes estimated a population of between 700 and 800 “whites, Canadians, and half breeds.” Of that number, about 150 were Americans, most of them associated with the mission settlements at Willamette Falls and farther up the valley. By the early 1840s, HBC personnel who had lived in the region for nearly two decades were amazed at the number of overlanders suddenly in their midst. A company trader at Fort Nez Perces on the Walla Walla River reported that the Americans were getting “as thick as Mosquitoes in this part of the world.” When the large immigrant group known as the Great Migration arrived in the Willamette Valley in 1843—approximately nine hundred people from Missouri and the Ohio and Mississippi Valleys—McLoughlin expressed alarm that the country was “settling fast.”

The growth of Oregon City provides an example of the transformation taking place in the valley. Two years after McLoughlin established a land claim at Willamette Falls in 1829, the HBC opened a sawmill at the site. The Methodists then established a mission at the falls, and the settlement grew from a single building in 1840 to several more early in 1843. The newly named Oregon City had seventy-five structures by the close of the year. In the New York Weekly Herald in 1844, Peter J. Burnett reported that the settlement had four stores, two sawmills, one gristmill, and another under construction. “There is quite a little village here,” he wrote. When Joel Palmer arrived in 1845, he reported that Oregon City had taken on the appearance of a village of about a hundred houses, “most of them not only commodious, but neat.” The town had three hundred residents, two conspicuous public buildings—a Methodist church and a Catholic chapel—and the usual array of services.

With only a remnant of the Kalapuyan people still living in the Willamette Valley, the newcomers experienced little resistance as they staked out generous land claims for themselves. Euro-American population increased considerably in the Willamette Valley from 1843 to 1860: to 1,500 in 1843; 6,000 in 1845; 9,083 in 1849; 13,294 in 1850; and 52,000 in 1860. It is nearly impossible to estimate Oregon’s Native population based on the first territorial census in 1850. The Bureau of the Census distributed confusing instructions about counting Indian people, and their populations were in sharp decline. In the Willamette Valley, geographer William Bowen estimates a Kalapuya population of 500 people.

Source: Oregon History Project

Oregon Constitution Article One

Section 1. Natural rights inherent in people.

We declare that all men, when they form a social compact are equal in right: that all power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their peace, safety, and happiness; and they have at all times a right to alter, reform, or abolish the government in such manner as they may think proper. —

Now *that's* progressive.

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

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Thanks also for the remembrance of MOVE. Because humor is one of our mechanisms for dealing with tragedy and horror, I recall a ton of sick humor springing forth within hours, such as "Philly, the city where getting bombed really means getting bombed."

A lot of pushback against the "labor shortage" narrative, but, unfortunately not sufficiently consistently in the msm. All the same, quietly and on the sly, some places like Chipotle and, iirc, mickey Ds, have upped their wages or benefits or both and miraculously begun attracting workers. Many of the hardcore perpetual lowball places, expecially those paying "tipped employees" next to nothing will never get their old employees back because they all went to work for Amazon or UPS or just about anybody with even marginally better wages, benefits and working conditions. No pity fot the employers who find themselves ideologically incapable of doing whatt it takes to attract and retain employees (or simply too damn greedy).

be well and have a good one

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Sick person decided it would be okay to steal the bodies of 2 murdered children. Also wonder if the researchers who accepted those bodies knew where they came from.

Generally, there are more bodies offered to science than are needed or accepted. So this is not only evil, but doesn't even make sense.

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We live in a society in which "we live in a society" is considered a subversive and vaguely-threatening statement.

In the Land of the Blind, the one-eyed man is declared insane when he speaks of colors.