The Evening Blues - 11-10-22



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The day's news roundup + tonight's musical feature: Willie Dixon

Hey! Good Evening!

This evening's music features blues singer, bass player, prolific songwriter and bandleader Willie Dixon. Enjoy!

Willie Dixon - The Little Red Rooster

“I wasn’t thinking of the Viet Nam War but war in general; in particular, how a war forces you to become like your enemy. Hitler had once said that the true victory of the Nazis would be to force its enemies, the United States in particular, to become like the Third Reich—i.e. a totalitarian society—in order to win. Hitler, then, expected to win even in losing. As I watched the American military‐industrial complex grow after World War Two I kept remembering Hitler’s analysis, and I kept thinking how right the son of a bitch was. We had beaten Germany, but both the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. were getting more and more like the Nazis with their huge police systems every day. Well, it seemed to me there was a little wry humor in this (but not much). […] Look what we had to become in Viet Nam just to lose, let alone to win; can you imagine what we’d have had to become to win? Hitler would have gotten a lot of laughs out of it, and the laughs would have been on us … and to a very great extent in fact were. And they were hollow and grim laughs, without humor of any kind.”

-- Philip K. Dick


News and Opinion

Worth a full read, there's lots of great background info at the link:

Who is Chrystia Freeland, Washington’s “prime candidate” for NATO Secretary-General?

The New York Times recently reported that Washington is promoting Canada’s deputy prime minister, Chrystia Freeland, as its “prime candidate” to succeed Jens Stoltenberg as NATO secretary-general when the Norwegian’s term expires in September 2023. Freeland is being backed by US imperialism to head the aggressive military alliance because she is a war hawk with extensive personal and political ties with Ukrainian fascism, which has emerged as a key proxy for the Western powers’ predatory war against Russia.

The selection of the next head of the US-led alliance is seen as a crucial issue in Washington and European capitals. The next secretary-general will oversee some 300,000 NATO “high readiness forces” in Europe and will therefore be instrumental in the prosecution of the imperialist powers’ war, aimed at subjugating Russia to the status of a semi-colony and seizing control of its natural resources.

In a manner typical of a newspaper that has deceitfully propagandized for every US war of aggression over the past three decades, the Times shamelessly covered up Freeland’s personal and political ties to far-right and outright fascist forces in its November 4 report. After noting Freeland’s presence in Kiev in 2014 to “celebrate” the fascist-led coup that overthrew elected pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych, the Times observes, “(H)er Ukrainian grandfather, a grateful immigrant to Canada, was as a younger man involved with a Ukrainian nationalist movement that saw the Nazis as useful foils to counter the Soviets.”

Contrary to this anodyne portrayal of Freeland’s grandfather as a young man led astray, the fact of the matter is that Mykhailo Chomiak was a high-level Nazi collaborator. From the beginning of 1940 to the early months of 1945, he served as managing editor of the only Ukrainian-language newspaper permitted to publish in Nazi-occupied Poland. Krakivski Visti (Krakow News), which was produced on a printing press stolen from a Jew who perished in a Nazi death camp, published a steady stream of anti-Semitic and anti-Polish racist filth, regularly lauded Adolf Hitler as a leader of a new Europe and an ally of Ukraine, and actively campaigned for recruits to the 14th Division of the Waffen SS, the so-called Galicia Division. The Galicia Division participated in horrific massacres of Jews and Poles during 1943 and 1944.

Chomiak was a member of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN), which collaborated closely with the Nazis, joined in the war of extermination against the Soviet Union, and was implicated in hundreds of thousands of deaths of Poles and Jews in the Holocaust. The OUN was an explicitly fascist organization that set as its goal the creation of an ethnically pure Ukrainian state. The faction to which Chomiak belonged, the OUN Melnyk (M), directly served the Nazi occupiers by integrating itself into the administrative and security apparatus in the General Government (Nazi-occupied Poland). The other faction, led by Stepan Bandera, the OUN (B), focused on embedding its forces into the military and claimed to act more “independently” of the Nazis. The activities of both factions and their push for an “independent” Ukrainian state were in reality entirely dependent upon the patronage of Nazi German imperialism.

After the downfall of the Third Reich, Chomiak found refuge together with thousands of Nazi collaborators in Canada and the United States. Former members of the fascist OUN were among the first recruits of the newly established CIA, which was above all concerned with recruiting anti-communist forces amid the Cold War. ... Freeland emerged out of this milieu. After working as a student on the so-called “Encyclopedia of Ukraine,” a project aimed at concealing the Ukrainian nationalists’ active support for Hitler and the Nazis led by Krakivski Visti’s publisher, Volodymyr Kubiyovych, Freeland traveled to Soviet Ukraine in the late 1980s to stoke the far-right Ukrainian nationalism in which she had been schooled. ...

When the US and its NATO allies succeeded in goading Putin into his reactionary invasion of Ukraine in February, Freeland emerged as one of the leading voices for ruthless economic sanctions, including the removal of Russia from the SWIFT global payments network. She has also served as a key interlocutor between the Ukrainian government and its imperialist masters, boasting earlier this year that she has daily conversations with Ukraine’s prime minister and finance minister.

Russia Withdraws from Kherson, Surovikin Steadies Nerves, Promises Offensive

Russia Announces It’s Pulling Out of Kherson City

Russia announced on Wednesday that it is pulling out of areas in the southern Ukrainian region of Kherson on the west bank of the Dnieper River, which includes the city of Kherson.

Russia Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu announced the move in a meeting with Gen. Sergey Suroviki, who was recently appointed as the commander of Russian forces in Ukraine.

Surovki reported to Shoigu that keeping troops on the west bank of the Dnieper River wasn’t worth the risk over claims that Ukraine could blow up the Kakhovka dam, which would cause major flooding in the region, leaving troops isolated. Russia recently accused Ukraine of shelling the dam using US-provided HIMARS rocket systems.

“Start withdrawing the troops and take all measures to ensure the safe relocation of the personnel, armaments and hardware behind the Dnieper,” Shoigu told Surovki, according to the Russian news agency TASS.

Fresh off of the Guardian's propaganda catapult:

Russian troops ordered to retreat from Kherson in face of Ukrainian advance

The Russian defence minister, Sergei Shoigu, has ordered the country’s troops to leave an area including Ukraine’s city of Kherson, the only regional capital captured by Moscow since the February invasion.

A Ukrainian victory in in the city, one of the main objectives of Kyiv’s southern offensive, would be widely seen as a significant blow to the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, only weeks after a high-profile ceremony in Moscow in which he announced the “forever” annexation of the Kherson region, along with three others. As details of Russian troop movements remained opaque, some Ukrainian senior officials cautioned against celebrating too soon until a fuller picture of the situation on the ground became clear.

It was unclear how many Russian troops remained on the west bank of the Dnipro and in Kherson city itself, or how complicated it would be to make a full retreat. All the evidence, however, pointed to a new humiliating defeat for Moscow, as Shoigu and the overall commander of Russian forces in Ukraine, Sergei Surovikin, commanded Russian troops to fall back across the Dnipro River, destroying bridges on its west bank to cover their withdrawal.

In Washington, Joe Biden said the news showed the scale of the difficulties Moscow is facing. “It’s evidence of the fact that they have some real problems, Russia, the Russian military,” the US president told reporters. A Ukrainian liberation of the area would pose fresh military headaches for Russia’s military commanders, bringing some parts of the Russian-occupied Crimea within range of Ukrainian Himars rocket systems, as well as threatening Russian operations around Melitopol and Mariupol.

US, Russia Agree to Hold Talks on New START Nuclear Treaty

The State Department said Tuesday that the US and Russia have agreed to hold talks on the New START nuclear arms control treaty for the first time since the February 24 Russian invasion of Ukraine.

State Department spokesman Ned Price said a meeting of the bilateral consultative commission (BCC), an implementation body established by the New START, is expected to be held in the “near future.”

The talks will likely be focused on resuming inspections under New START that have been paused since March 2020 due to the Covid-19 pandemic. The last time the BCC held a meeting was over a year ago, in October 2021. ...

The New START is the last nuclear arms control treaty between the US and Russia and limits the deployment of warheads, missiles, and bombers.

Ukrainians CELEBRATE Dems’ Midterm Victories, Zelensky-Putin Negotiations Back on Table?

Xi Jinping tells China’s army to focus on preparation for war

Xi Jinping has told the People’s Liberation Army to “focus all its energy on fighting” in preparation for war, a Chinese Communist party mouthpiece has reported.

Pictures of Xi, who recently secured a third term as party leader, in his army uniform during a visit to a command centre featured prominently on the front page of the People’s Daily on Wednesday.

Xi said the army must “comprehensively strengthen military training in preparation for war”, having warned at a recent party congress of “dangerous storms” on the horizon.

“Focus all [your] energy on fighting, work hard on fighting and improve [your] capability to win,” he was quoted as saying. The army must also “resolutely defend national sovereignty and national security” as China was in an “unstable and uncertain” security situation, he reportedly said.

While Xi also ordered the army to focus on war preparation in 2013, soon after he took power, and again in 2017, political analysts say he has markedly stepped up his rhetoric this time. In a similar visit to the command centre in 2016, he told officers to be “loyal” and “resourceful” in fighting and “courageous and capable of winning wars”.

Chinese Warplane Activity Near Taiwan Hits Three-Month High as UK Minister Visits Island

Chinese warplane activity near Taiwan hit a three-month high on Monday as a British minister visited the island, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

Taiwan’s Defense Ministry said Monday that 62 of China’s People’s Liberation Army’s warplanes were detected in the “surrounding region” and that 32 of them crossed the median line or flew within the southwest corner of Taiwan’s Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ).


An ADIZ is an area where a country requires foreign aircraft to identify itself, but the concept is not covered under any treaties and has no international regulations. While China’s flights in Taiwan’s ADIZ have been hyped up by Taiwan and Western media, before very recently, they were typically not close to the island.

But that changed after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) visited Taiwan at the beginning of August. In response, China launched its largest-ever military exercises around Taiwan and began flying warplanes across the median line, an informal barrier that separates the two sides of the Taiwan Strait, which was drawn by the US in the 1950s.

US Condemned for Warning Australia Against Joining Anti-Nuclear Treaty

Anti-nuclear weapons campaigners rebuked the Biden administration on Wednesday over its opposition to Australia's newly announced voting position on the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons, which could signal the country's willingness to sign on to the agreement.

As The Guardian reported, the U.S. Embassy in Canberra warned Australian officials that the Labour government's decision to adopt an "abstain" position regarding the treaty—after five years of opposing it—would obstruct Australia's reliance on American nuclear forces in case of a nuclear attack on the country.

Australia's ratification of the nuclear ban treaty, which currently has 91 signatories, "would not allow for U.S. extended deterrence relationships, which are still necessary for international peace and security," the embassy said.

The U.S. also claimed that if Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's government ratifies the treaty it would reinforce "divisions" around the world.

Australia "should not face intimidation from so-called allies under the auspices of defense cooperation," said Kate Hudson, general secretary of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament. "The TPNW offers the best chance for lasting global peace and security and a clear road map for nuclear disarmament."

The TPNW prohibits the development, testing, stockpiling, use, and threats regarding the use of nuclear weapons.

The Australian chapter of the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons (ICAN) noted that Albanese's vocal support for achieving nuclear disarmament puts him in line with the majority of his constituents—while the U.S., as one of nine nuclear powers in the world, represents a small global minority.

According to an Ipsos poll taken in March, 76% of Australians support the country signing and ratifying the treaty, while only 6% are opposed. ...

Labour's 2021 platform included a commitment to signing and ratifying the treaty "after taking account" of factors including the development of "an effective verification and enforcement architecture."

Australia's decision to change its voting position comes as the U.S. is planning to deploy nuclear-capable B-52 bombers to the country, where the weapons will be positioned close enough to strike China.

Gem Romuld, Australia director of ICAN, said in a statement that "it's no surprise the U.S. doesn't want Australia to join the ban treaty but it will have to respect our right to take a humanitarian stance against these weapons."

"The majority of nations recognize that 'nuclear deterrence' is a dangerous theory that only perpetuates the nuclear threat and legitimizes the forever existence of nuclear weapons, an unacceptable prospect," Romuld added.

Beatrice Fihn, executive director of ICAN, called the U.S. embassy's comments "so irresponsible."

"Using nuclear weapons is unacceptable, for Russia, for North Korea, and for the U.S., U.K., and all other states in the world," said Fihn. "There are no 'responsible' nuclear armed states. These are weapons of mass destruction and Australia should sign the TPNW!"

Brazil military finds no evidence of election fraud, dashing hopes of Bolsonaro supporters

A much-awaited report by Brazil’s Defence Ministry has failed to indicate recent ballots were fraudulent, scuppering the far-right’s hopes of delegitimising the election of Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva.

The military sent the 63-page report to Brazil’s electoral authorities late on Wednesday after days of speculation that it would back claims by extremist president Jair Bolsonaro that the election was tainted.

Bolsonaro, a former army captain, has spent months hinting he would not accept a loss at the polls and frequently called into question the reliability of Brazil’s electronic ballot boxes, even though he provided no evidence they could be tampered with.

His supporters hoped the military would back up these claims but the only note of doubt was a weak suggestion a committee be formed to ensure the source code used in the boxes cannot be tampered with.

Brazil’s senior electoral official said they “received with satisfaction the final report from the Defence Ministry that, in common with all the other monitoring agencies, does not point to any fraud or inconsistency in electronic ballot boxes or in the 2022 electoral process”.

Inflation Numbers LOWEST In Months

To Defend Social Security and Medicare, Dems Urged to Lift Debt Ceiling Before 2023

With Democrats still at risk of losing control of one or both chambers of Congress after Tuesday's midterm elections, calls mounted for federal lawmakers and President Joe Biden to raise the debt ceiling before the new year.

As votes were still being counted in several states Wednesday, the advocacy group Social Security Works tweeted that Democrats, led by Biden, "focused heavily on Social Security during the campaign. They made sure voters knew about Republican threats to the program, and promised that Democrats would protect Social Security."

"Now, it's time for Democrats to keep that promise by raising or eliminating the debt ceiling in the final months of the year, so that Republicans can't use it as leverage to force cuts to Social Security and Medicare," the group declared. "After last night, it's clear that cutting Social Security remains the third rail of American politics. Republicans just got shocked."

During a press conference Wednesday, Biden said that "under no circumstances" will he go along with Republican efforts to cut the social safety net programs. As he put it: "That's not on the table. I will not do that."

As Common Dreams detailed in mid-October, four Republicans hoping to serve as the next chair of the House Budget Committee—Reps. Jason Smith (Mo.), Jodey Arrington (Texas), Buddy Carter (Ga.), and Lloyd Smucker (Pa.)—have signaled that if the GOP seizes the chamber, they aim to use next year's debt ceiling deadline to force concessions from Democrats.

All four of those GOP congressmen won their races Tuesday and various projections currently lean toward Republicans having a narrow majority in the House next year.

Amid growing fears of Republicans using the looming deadline to go after key government programs, over 30 lawmakers late last month called on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) "to implement a solution more permanent and reliable than the current practice of hastily taking action each time we approach the dollar amount of the debt limit or the expiration of an enacted suspension."

"As we have detailed in the past, there are several options to do this," the lawmakers wrote, "including proposals to authorize the secretary of the Treasury to raise the debt limit unilaterally (e.g., H.R. 5415) and to permanently repeal the federal debt limit (e.g., H.R. 1041 or H.R. 3305), among others."

Politico reported last week that the president "has ruled out abolishing the debt limit, deeming it an 'irresponsible' idea," but also, "senior Biden officials and allies are exploring a series of strategies for raising the debt ceiling, in a bid to avert a standoff with Republicans next year."

"The private discussions have focused largely on whether Congress can and should head off the high-stakes conflict before it begins by striking a lame-duck session deal to lift the debt limit—or, in a sign of the grave concerns within the party, deploying a procedural tool that would allow Democrats to unilaterally pass an increase," the outlet noted, referring to the budget reconciliation process used earlier this year to pass the Inflation Reduction Act. "Under consideration is a debt ceiling hike that would extend past the 2024 election, in effect removing the drama for the rest of Biden's term."

"Democratic leaders are already juggling several competing priorities for the lame-duck session, including efforts to pass a major defense bill, push through outstanding energy-permitting legislation, and vote on proposals protecting same-sex marriage and shoring up the electoral process," Politico pointed out. "Congress also needs to reach a government funding deal before its December 16 deadline."

Still, defenders of Social Security and Medicare are demanding swift action.

"Don't wait for the center to conjure excuses," MSNBC columnist James Downie said early Wednesday. "Raise the debt ceiling. Now."

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the horse race



Oligarchy Wins Big As Democrats Pretend Losses Are Victories

Biden narrowly avoided a political rebuke. The next two years could be a governing gridlock

By Wednesday afternoon, control of Congress hung in the balance. But it was clear that the president’s party had defied the gloomiest predictions and Biden, hobbled by economic discontent and dismal approval ratings, had nevertheless avoided the devastating political rebuke his predecessors suffered in past midterms. At a press conference on Wednesday, Biden reveled in his party’s successes: “While the press and the pundits were predicting a giant red wave – it didn’t happen.”

Despite Democrats’ rosier-than-anticipated outlook, Republican control of one or both chambers of Congress would upend the trajectory of his presidency, imperiling his legislative agenda and swamping his administration with investigations. Biden, who turns 80 this month, also faces a looming decision about whether he should stand for re-election in 2024, as Trump teases a presidential bid announcement for later this month. ...

Narrow control of the House could embolden the increasingly pro-Trump wing of the Republican conference, which has demanded a slew of investigations into Biden administration officials and his family.

Some have threatened to impeach the president or his top officials. And Republican leaders have already made clear they plan to use must-pass spending bills as leverage to extract legislative concessions, promising political brinkmanship that could lead to a government shutdown or even a risky debt default. ...

Wednesday, Biden vowed to work with Republican leaders to find common ground. And he remained optimistic that he could still build on his legislative agenda, which he predicted would become even more popular in the coming months as transportation projects get underway and new policies take effect, such as one lowering prescription drug costs.

Democrats May Lose U.S. House Because New York Dem. Leaders Were Too Focused on Defeating the Left

'Humiliating': DCCC Chair Sean Patrick Maloney Concedes in New York

U.S. Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney—a powerful Democrat running in a blue New York district—conceded Wednesday to his Republican opponent in what observers are calling a "humiliating" loss after an election night in which Democratic congressional candidates collectively outperformed expectations.

Maloney, who chairs the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), admitted defeat to freshman state Assemblyman Mike Lawler (R-97) in a stinging loss for a candidate who controversially decided to run in New York's 17th Congressional District—currently represented by progressive Rep. Mondaire Jones—after a court-appointed special master redrew district maps earlier this year.

The new 17th District leans Democratic; President Joe Biden won it by 10 points in 2020.

Lawler is the first candidate to defeat a DCCC leader since 1980, according to National Republican Congressional Committee chair Rep. Tom Emmer (R-Minn.).

"There will be lots of second-guessing here, mostly around Maloney's decision to hop districts after New York's new maps came down," NY Metro political correspondent Nicholas Fandos tweeted. "He campaigned for the DCCC job, after all, on idea that he knew how to win tough races in swing districts."

GOP In COMPLETE DISARRAY After Midterm Flop



the evening greens


China’s top climate official urges US to ‘clear barriers’ to talks

China’s top climate official has said the US must take responsibility for any reconciliation between the two countries at the Cop27 climate summit, calling on the US to “clear the barriers” to talks. Xie Zhenhua, the climate envoy for China, said he had met John Kerry, the US special presidential envoy for climate, in Sharm el-Sheikh, Egypt, where governments and world leaders have gathered for a fortnight of talks on the climate crisis. He said: “It is the responsibility of the US. We hope the US will take the initiative, to clear the barriers. I think the door was absolutely closed by them. We in China are trying to open it.

“We have already started informal conversations with the US. We, with John Kerry, have a joint effort to support the Egyptian presidency, and have a successful Cop27.”

Relations between the world’s two biggest emitters hit a new low this summer after the US House speaker, Nancy Pelosi, visited the disputed island of Taiwan, over which China claims sovereignty. The diplomatic deep freeze has cast a shadow over the already fraught climate talks.

Both sides have made conciliatory remarks, but there is still no formal rapprochement. Before Xie spoke to a small group of mostly Chinese media on Wednesday, Kerry told an event: “I’ve spoken, but we’re not having any formal meetings. You know I’ve made the argument to the Chinese publicly, I’ll make the same argument to you today, it’s nothing different.

“This is not a bilateral issue. It’s a global threat to the planet. And we need to be talking to each other because we’re the two biggest economies in the world and we’re the two biggest emitters in the world. And we have a common interest in working together to try to reduce emissions and be leaders on this level. So the answer is: I’ve said to China many times publicly, and President Joe Biden has indicated to them, that we are open to resuming climate [talks] and hope that we’ll be able to.”

Oil and gas greenhouse emissions ‘three times higher’ than producers claim

Greenhouse gas emissions from oil and gas facilities around the world are about three times higher than their producers claim, new data has shown. Climate Trace, a project to measure at source the true levels of carbon dioxide and other global heating gases, published a new report on Wednesday showing that half of the 50 largest sources of greenhouse gases in the world were oil and gas fields and production facilities.

Many are underreporting their emissions, and there are few means of calling them to account.

Oil and gas production can leak methane, and the gas is also frequently flared intentionally, ostensibly for safety reasons but sometimes for convenience. Atmospheric levels of methane, a greenhouse gas about 80 times more powerful than carbon dioxide, have been rising strongly in recent years, but countries’ reported emissions of the gas have been found to be much lower than the reality.

The “shocking” under-reporting of emissions is a big problem in trying to tackle the climate crisis, according to Al Gore, former vice-president of the US, a founding member of the Climate Trace coalition. “We can only manage what we can measure,” Gore told the Guardian at Cop27 in Egypt. “Climate Trace is the neighbourhood watch for the globe.”

Under the UN system, countries are responsible for reporting their own greenhouse gas emissions. Gore said: “There are some inherent vulnerabilities in a self-reporting framework. If there is a bad actor, who doesn’t want to report, or if there is a brand name company that wants to sell its high emitting asset through a dark private equity group, it disappears from the self-reporting framework. But we still see it because we have empirical data. So we can help them protect against cheating.”

Florida buckles down for direct hit from rare November hurricane

Residents of Florida’s east coast were bracing for a direct hit from a rare November hurricane that was forecast to land in the early hours of Thursday, with evacuations ordered in several vulnerable counties as Storm Nicole approached.

Areas of the state devastated by Hurricane Ian in September lay in the path of the cyclone that continued to pick up strength in the Atlantic on Wednesday after striking the Bahamas in the early afternoon with winds above 70mph.

Although not as powerful as Ian, a storm that claimed at least 114 lives in Florida and caused tens of billions of dollars in damage, the threat from Nicole prompted governor Ron DeSantis to issue a state of emergency, with up to 4 million people under a hurricane warning.

The National Hurricane Center (NHC) in Miami warned of 75mph winds and risk of a “dangerous” storm surge as far north as Georgia. Nicole’s large wind field, meanwhile, will stretch across Florida to west coast areas still recovering from Ian’s wrath.

Disney and Universal theme parks in Orlando closed, many airports suspended operations, and residents of barrier islands and coastal communities in some eastern counties, including Flagler, Palm Beach, Martin and Volusia, were told to evacuate.


Also of Interest

Here are some articles of interest, some which defied fair-use abstraction.

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Anger as Biden EPA Backs 'Dangerous and Unnecessary' Oil Export Project on Texas Coast

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U.S. to Announce Plan for Private Companies to Fund International Renewable Energy Transition

Discovered in the deep: the sharks that glow in the dark

Bernie Smears Anti-War Protesters At Rally

Marianne Williamson On Rising: Red-State Voters OK Legal Weed, $15 Min Wage; US Going PROGRESSIVE


A Little Night Music

Willie Dixon - Spoonful

Willie Dixon - You Shook Me

Willie Dixon - I Just Want To Make Love To You

Willie Dixon - The Seventh Son

Willie Dixon - I Can't Quit You, Baby

Willie Dixon - I Love The Life I Live

Willie Dixon - I'm Nervous

Willie Dixon - Jungle Swing

Willie Dixon - I'm Your Hoochie Coochie Man


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i will probably be back later than usual tonight, i'm headed out to see the new neil young 50th anniversary of the harvest album movie.

have a good one and i'll see you a bit later on.

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@joe shikspack Have a blast!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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hope the movie is great!

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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as it turns out, ms shikspack misread the "tickets go on sale date" as the movie date. it's not all bad, though. i had a lovely pit beef sandwich at my favorite roadside pit beef stand. Smile

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Pit beef is for real a Baltimore thing, at most a Maryland thing. Its origins are murky, but most food historians seem to agree that pit beef sprung up in Baltimore's east-side working-class neighborhoods

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Unless maybe one owns a home on beachside in Flagler or Volusia counties. I don't know the impact further in other regions. I sandbagged my what's left of my home after Ian, and the refugee apartment I'm forced by circumstances to live in. Turns out that wasn't necessary. Not looking forward to moving the sandbags a fourth time. Guess I was too cautious. It appears the local city public works got religion after their neglect caused millions in home and car damages in my neighborhood by failure to manage the water gates, canals, retention ponds, and pumps properly before Ian. I imagine they got an earful. I noticed the retention ponds were way down before Nicole in contrast to Ian.

Nothing can be done to save the million dollar homes over on the beach from the beach erosion or storm surge. The power went out for several hours at the apartment which about drove us up the wall. This apartment complex is still covered with trash from Ian, now there's more.

Enjoyed the selection of political and environmental articles as usual. Ty Joe.

I wrote these political comments at brandX to defend myself after receiving charivari for agreeing with someone that peaceful negotiations were the order of the day for North and South Korea, rather than massive military drills by the US and South Korea, which only provoke more missile launches from North Korea. The US and the authoritarian quisling Yoon in South Korea have systematically dismantled the last restraints of the Singapore summit agreement.

"...in the night of our ignorance...all alien shapes take on the same hue." Bruce Cummings quoting Perry Anderson in Korean War- a History.

George F. Kennan wrote, “are things that constitute the deepest and most intimate processes of national life. There is nothing less understandable to foreigners, nothing in which foreign influence can do less good.”36 It is our blindness, our hidden complex of unexamined assumptions, that constitutes the core of Kim hating—what makes him simultaneously so
laughable, so impudent, and so outrageous; we revile him, while he thumbs his nose at usand our values and gets away with it. We have proved over seven decades that we do not understand North Korea and that we cannot do anything about it, however much we would like to. We can do something about our prejudices...

(Cummings) After seven decades of confrontation, the dominant American images of North Korea still bear the birthmarks of Orientalist bigotry.
id pp249-250

Elder Statesman Cheong Se-hyun

...recently characterized the political climate in South Korea where leaders of the Democratic Party and other critics are prosecuted by the Yoon Seok-yeol administration as similar to that of the early dictatorships. Yoon changed the organization of the previously independent National Police arbitrarilay without legislative authorization to place it under the Ministry of Interior and Public Safety as it was during the Chun Doo-wan dictatorship.

From TBR Weekly Update: Week 4, October 2022:

Previously, the Yoon administration removed all 27 section chiefs 국장 of the NIS, a spy agency purge unprecedented in South Korean history in scale...

... Prosecutors’ pressure against Democratic Party chairman Lee Jae-myung 이재명 민주당 당대표 intensified as a key witness in the Daejang-dong real estate scandal changed his story. Last week, the Seoul Central District Prosecutors’ Office 서울중앙지방검찰청 raided the Democratic Party 민주당 headquarters, in the first raid of the main opposition party since the Park Chung-hee 박정희 dictatorship in 1979.

(my comment) Many of the Ministers and top level officials of the previous administration have been subjected to virtually hundreds of unjustified warrants on fishing expeditions to fabricate charges against opposition politicians and their families simply isn't reported in the US because the inconvenient truth is that South Korea is reverting to a police state similar in nature to the prior dictatorships. As long as Yoon does their bidding, US officials could care less.

(President Yoon) was he democratically elected, if so not a dictator.

Syngman Rhee was elected

He was also a dictator.

Dictator Park Chung-hee was elected president more than once.

Before and during his election campaign, Yoon and his henchman, now the Minister of Justice, Han Dong-hun, engaged in a campaign of investigation and prosecution of political rivals and critics. Yoon was subjected to sanctions for unethical professional conduct as Prosecutor General, for which he should have been fired according to the Supreme Court, dismissing his petition for injunction as invalid. Yoon then quit his office to avoid sanctions. One of Yoon's offenses was unlawfully investigating judges. Now, again without legislation, only Yoon's diktat, Han Dong-hun has been placed in charge of investigating all judicial candidates. Taking control of the National Police without legislation is another obvious reversal to police state status.

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@soryang

glad to hear that the latest hurricane was kinder to you than its predecessor. i hope that things are going well in the process of recovering from ian.

thanks for the info about south korea. it's not well covered in any of the outlets that i regularly read and it's good to find out more about its political situations past and present.

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@joe shikspack It's been a rough 5 weeks or so. There are still some major bumps in the road ahead. I haven't posted anything in my blog since before hurricane Ian. So I know I'm in distress. Of course it isn't just me, but my family as well. The fact that I'm beginning to look at the Korean news again and try to put together some observations means I must be adapting to it.

I've added this to my recent comments in the place where I'm getting the McCarthy treatment:

"Yoon has all but declared the opposition as the enemy of the state, as he said this week in an address to the PPP: “There will be no cooperation in governance with the pro-North Korean juche-ists 종북주사파.” TK Park from the The Blueroofpolitics.com and Ask a Korean.

Yoon is adopting a pro-Japanese line which predates the liberation. He's chinilpa ( 친일파 ). He's referring to the South Korean opposition. ( Anyone who doesn't agree with Yoon or like Japan is a communist is what he means. )

Democrats denounce Yoon's political oppression of the opposition party and his revenge motivated investigations and arrests of politicians.

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I'm not a believer but in this case I'll go with it.

https://johnmenadue.com/god-save-australia-because-america-will-not/

Despite the best endeavours of Foreign Minister, Penny Wong, to put the relationship with China on a more even keel, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, seems determined to destabilise it.

In a wide-ranging interview with The Weekend Australian on 4 November, Albanese framed China as a threat, citing aggressive intent toward Taiwan and hostile activities in the South China Sea, he advocated strongly for increased defence spending, at a time of budget cuts.

Has he taken this position to avoid being wedged by the Opposition, LNP, or because he has been captured by the US military/industrial lobbyists?

It would seem the latter. Albanese inherited AUKUS and what seems to be a number of secret US/Australia defence undertakings from Morrison including embedded US advisers in the Australian defence establishment, cancellation of the French submarine deal and purchase of US/UK nuclear submarines and expansion of Stirling, Tindal and Darwin defence facilities to accommodate US demands.

Quite out of the blue was the recent announcement that B52 bombers, capable of delivering nuclear weapons, were to be based at Tindal. These are offensive weapons of war and do not relate to the defence of Australia. It is unlikely that Australia would have any say in how they are deployed. Their offensive capabilities are directed entirely against China. Upgrades at Pine Gap are directed against China. Very quickly, indeed within months, it seems to have been accepted by all sections of the MSM and more broadly within Australia that China is the enemy and that war is inevitable.

Albanese seems determined to re-enforce this narrative. The B52 deployment without prior announcement coupled with his rambling and jingoistic interview with The Australian almost ensures that he will not be given a one on one with Xi Jinping at the G20. China is probably getting close to the point of giving up on Australia. It would be fair to say that Albanese has dashed whatever hope Penny Wong had of getting some momentum into the relationship.

Who is in his ear? It would seem many of the people Morrison employed, such as Shearer of ONI, ASPI, so beloved of Marles, and Kennedy, Sinodinos, and a raft of faceless people representing the US Industrial/Military complex.

Why hasn’t Albanese looked to a new advisers? Why run with Morrison’s discredited team? Why hasn’t Albanese pushed back against this right-wing pressure? After all he is ostensibly a member of the Labor left. He is aware of the Vietnam narrative, a narrative that is being replayed with his consent. Did his left-wing ideals die when he went to ground over East Timor at the time of the Beazley/Brereton dust up?

Albanese came to power after one of the most awful governments in Australian history. Corruption was writ large. To a greater or lesser extent all of Morrison’s front bench were rotten apples. The bar had been discarded. Labor has put the bar back but it is still very low. Albanese is excused by his supporters as being far better than his predecessor, which is true and not hard. They will not hear criticism of his capture or reluctant decision making. They argue it is early days and he should be given time. How much time is unstated. They argue criticism will undermine him, which is a strange argument directed toward a Prime Minister and that he is far superior to his predecessor, which is true.

His supporters plead for more time, indicating little knowledge of history. Labor politician, John Curtin, became Prime Minister on 7 October, 1941. Australia was at war, with troops deployed in the middle east. On 7 December the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbour. The defence of Australia, requiring considerable planning, was overseen by a Prime Minister who had been in office for two months with no prior experience in such a significant undertaking. On 19 February Darwin was bombed and on the 23 February Curtin over-ruled Churchill and brought the 6th and 7th Divisions back to Australia. Momentous decisions made with a great deal of courage.

On the 5 December, 1972, Labor politician, Gough Whitlam, was elected Prime Minister, following 23 years of LNP government which included the illegal conscription of young men to fight in Vietnam. After being sworn in Whitlam moved quickly, with his deputy, Lance Barnard, to end conscription, recognise China, bring equal pay before the tribunal, ban racially composed sporting teams and make Australia’s position against apartheid clear at the UN. His Cabinet was sworn in on 18 December.

Mike Gilligan and Joseph Camilleri both detail the failure of Australian foreign and defence policy under LNP and now a Labor government.

One of the failures of the Albanese government has been not to make public the details of the AUKUS arrangements. He has not briefed on them but more importantly has not moved to have then tabled in parliament. Albanese has not expressed himself in favour of the Parliament considering and passing a proposal to go to war, which as just as well, as aggressive patrolling of the South China Sea might see Australia sucked into war before politicians were even aware.

Basing nuclear capable B52’s in the Northern Territory with the express aim of targeting China puts Australia on a war footing. In fact, it amounts to an act of war. The main stream media in Australia regard China as the enemy and seem prepared for the prospect of active warfare to take place. Shortly after his election it was possible for Albanese to push back on AUKUS, claiming a failure of the previous government to provide briefings. He might have called time out while all aspects of the Australia/China relationship were considered. He did not. He allowed himself to be railroaded and now it is too late. The pressure from the US has been relentless and extensive and the pace breathless.

The US claims to be the protector of Taiwan which the international community recognises to be part of China. The US, in its rivalry with China, has made Taiwan the hostage of fortune. It is a contrivance. The audacity and arrogance of the US is mind blowing. And Albanese has shown he is not the man to take this on. Once again, we are being or rather have been sucked into an American war. This time of likely horrendous outcomes. It will be Australia that pays the price. America will slink away whilst we will be hostage to war reparations and possible occupation.

The calibre of the advice Albanese is receiving is most recently illustrated by the decision not to attend COP27, particularly as Australia has said it wants to host the 2026 conference with Pacific Island States. Albanese should be there networking.

Some say his attendance would be just optics. That may be, but it is a very important optic for a head of government to attend a conference on the most critical issue facing mankind. Nothing else is as important. Can’t Albanese see that? And if he can, why doesn’t he over-ride his over paid and under endowed team of advisers.

As a nation where do we go from here? We have thrown in our lot with the US, we have turned our back on our biggest trading partner. Embedded as he is, how will Albanese handle another Trump Presidency? Despite the thinking within ASPI, China is here to stay. Diplomacy should have been the key, instead B52’s were offered, as they were to Hanoi in 1972, as talking points. The US hasn’t changed and neither have we. Sycophantic until jilted. A vassal state which neither China nor the US respects.

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

@ggersh As I read this excellent essay, I was asking myself the question in the final paragraph:

"As a nation where do we go from here? We have thrown in our lot with the US, we have turned our back on our biggest trading partner."

My opinion, which seems to be wrong, has long been that Australia would wake up from their coma and go with their strong trade relationship with China.

Australia---just another Occupied vassal state, what a shame. Look at Germany and UKR, Australia.

Too late

Obama opened up Darwin US military base and now the cancer has spread. US bases are a ring around the continent and inland where Pine Gap is.

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NYCVG

joe shikspack's picture

@ggersh

thanks for the excellent article. one wonders if australia has looked at europe lately to see how being a toady for the u.s./mic is working out for them. a cautionary tale if there ever was one.

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soryang's picture

Prepping for a China War: The United States and the New Arc of Militarization Across Northern Australia

Richard Tanter

November 15, 2022 apjif
Volume 20 | Issue 18 | Number 4
Article ID 5754

https://apjjf.org/2022/18/Tanter.html

Abstract: In recent years, successive Australian governments, in coordination with the United States, have responded to the dramatic rise of China with military and economic policies that directly challenge the possibility of accommodation with China.

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hypocracy.jpg
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But only when it happens in Hong Kong.

Or Ukraine.

And only when rioters are funded by NED.

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@Pluto's Republic

apparently there is a fine line between heroism and stupidity and lots of people are trying to find it.

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Putting someone who has a history of supporting Nazism in charge of NATO that is filled with alliesd countries that once set out to destroy the Nazi regime would surely piss them off. It should also piss off their descendants, but instead they are also supporting Nazis. Again I ask why Israel didn’t have a problem with our importing the worst Nazis and letting them in the country putting them in charge of our organizations? Or why didn’t they track down the ones who fled to Canada and elsewhere? And why are they so silent on what they are doing in Ukraine? Nazis have been killing ethnic Russians and they haven’t said a word. Maybe their "never again" slogan is selective….

I guess we are supposed to forget that democrats spent 4 years trying to impeach Trump?

Yup this

It is sad that democrats didn’t have a blue wave and got a huge majority in the house and senate so they would have no excuse to pass their campaign promises. Enough numbers so that the rotating villain couldn’t derail it. But I doubt even that would open people’s eyes to the uniparty.

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~Hannah Arendt

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@snoopydawg

i know that my dad (a wwii vet) would be horrified to see somebody with freeland's background promoted to run nato if he was still with us, but then again there's a lot of stuff he'd be disgusted by these days.

the vast majority of americans seem to buy into the biparty and until they wake up and smell the coffee (perhaps enjoying a steaming cup with general strike) we are going to stay in this handbasket.

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@joe shikspack would be on his way to shoot somebody. He would have a couple of ounces of shrapnel removed from his stomach in 1945, in a nice little tin can, courtesy of the London military hospital, in his pocket, the other several ounces still in his body might defect that 10th bullet he took.
I can say, his little family would have been with him on the trip. By his side.
Hope you at least got the tickets squared away, and I am sure your spouse is sorry, and enjoyed ordering you a great sandwich.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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@on the cusp

tickets are squared away and at the ready for the actual show date. ms shikspack bought the tickets, i bought the sandwiches - a feat which i suspect that i will repeat on the actual show date. i don't know if they have pit beef in your area like they do here, but here it's a kind of art form. some of the most delicious, tender, juicy beef i've ever eaten is grilled at roadside stands all over the working class areas of baltimore. the numbers of stands has declined over the years, but there are still some great little places if you know where to look.

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@joe shikspack I hadn't heard anything abut it until you mentioned it. We listen to that album often.
In Texas, smoking meat is everyone's best kept secret, and everyone says they are better than the rest. I have a friend who has a stand he sets up for events, and he brings me and TLOML a brisket and trimmings most of the time when he has an event.
So, there is no special style, as everyone has their special touch. I will say, up in the Hill Country, mesquite is everywhere, and the most spectacular smoke you can get is from mesquite. I have used it for grilling and smoking all my life. And there are still lots of stands throughout Texas, with maybe the only common denominator being mesquite.
Here is what we have here.
https://franklinbbq.com/

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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@humphrey

well, yeah, there are far too many variables to say that such a strategy would work in russia's favor, but the factors mentioned do seem to be working currently. i'm not sure that the war itself is necessary so long as europe promises to continue cutting off its nose to spite its face - and with a little help from china and the brics they probably can use this as a springboard to a multipolar world with or without consent of the unipolaristas.

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@humphrey @humphrey @humphrey From this point of view, the Russian intention is to wear down the West economically, while outlasting them on the battlefields. (Brian Berletic and Andre Martyanov have advanced this theory on Gonzalo's Youtube roundtable today.)

The US and NATO are refurbishing old weapons to send to UKR along with money and supplies. Apparently.

Hence the withdrawal of troops and extending the conflict, playing for time, makes some sense.

That is one theory that makes sense. So do other POV I've been reading about.

The "Trap" theory. Russian forces withdraw to safety and UKR gets trapped in the mud and ice. Then an air assault begins.

Or the Hidden Deal theory. self explanatory.

All we can do is wait and see.

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@NYCVG

A long drawn-out war is exactly what the Merchants of Death want, so they can sell more and more and more of their loathsome wares. The idea was and is to grind down Russia and stifle their economy - but things are not working out as expected.

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enhydra lutris's picture

the consolation prize sounds cool.

I don't think I've heard Jungle Swing before. It's definitely not in the Willie Dixon Chess Box, that I know for sure since I just checked.

be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris

i don't know if it's anywhere else, but you can find jungle swing on this album:

https://www.discogs.com/release/2763461-Willie-Dixon-Hidden-Charms

it's a great album.

have a great evening!

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Russia has been defeated in Ukraine and the war has been won by the glorious Ukraine Nazis and blah, blah blah and Zelensky never wanted to join NATO and lots of other happy yappy crappy. Plus the comments just show how misinformed and propagandized Americans are. No wonder government does whatever the hell it wants to us. So many people have no idea what is true or not. I don’t blame the people who are too busy trying to make ends meet for their ignorance, but I do think those who have time to look for the truth have no excuse for their ignorance. Especially those who just read mainstream media sources after they found out that they have lied us into every war going back to the Maine.

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~Hannah Arendt

joe shikspack's picture

@snoopydawg

the motto of the warmongers was articulated beautifully a long time ago:

"In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies."

-- Winston Churchill

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@joe shikspack

You always seem to pull the right one out for when it’s needed. If I tried writing one that was in my head I’d forget about it half way through writing it. Umm what was I saying?

Have you glanced at the comments on MoA tonight? Wowzer the trolls are out in force there. It’s fun watching others destroy their talking points. Also Pepe is saying that Russia made a deal with Sullivan for Minsk 3 and that Russia is going to stop their SMO and let Ukraine keep Kherson and Russia keeps the other oblasts. And that Ukraine won’t join NATO. But he also said that Schultz was going to join with China….my goodness there’s a lot of silliness flying there tonight. Close to 400 comments tonight. Maybe the CIA is paying overtime?

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~Hannah Arendt

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@snoopydawg

how do i keep the quotes in my head? well, i have a pretty good memory and where that fails and i don't remember the quote exactly, i google the keywords to get it right.

i usually don't read too much of the comments at moa, there are usually so many of them that if i get started, well i go a bunch of pages into them and it's an enormous time suck.

the latest news from ukraine has everybody spinning it looks like, but nobody seems to have a good line on what is really happening. it's just going to take some time to sort out before there's a clear picture, i think.

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@joe shikspack

I have a schedule for how I read the web and if I’m ahead I can spend time on MoA reading the comments. It’s just funny how lots of people joined the site after Russia started their smo just to be against whatever Russia is doing.

The funny thing about this is that the Saudis were already invested in Twitter before Musk bought it. And apparently Biden has no problems with the Saudis being invested in the Atlantic council.

His pauses are just a stutter….

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~Hannah Arendt

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@snoopydawg

Such an arrogant ass!

Look at his eyes. He’s either stoned on some drugs to help his mind or he’s showing us who he really is and he is showing his contempt for us. I thought that the drugs that kept him coherent would have lost their efficacy by now.

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~Hannah Arendt

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@snoopydawg

how do i keep the quotes in my head? well, i have a pretty good memory and where that fails and i don't remember the quote exactly, i google the name and the keywords to get it right.

i usually don't read too much of the comments at moa, there are usually so many of them that if i get started, well i go a bunch of pages into them and it's an enormous time suck.

the latest news from ukraine has everybody spinning it looks like, but nobody seems to have a good line on what is really happening. it's just going to take some time to sort out before there's a clear picture, i think.

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Excerpts from the article.

https://www.npr.org/2022/11/10/1135744870/russia-ukraine-war-kherson-wit...

The top U.S. military officer says a withdrawal has already begun.

"Right now, the early indicators are they're doing what they say they're doing and we're seeing those early indicators," Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Wednesday at The Economic Club of New York.
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Milley estimates that the withdrawal of approximately 30,000 Russian soldiers stationed in and around Kherson will take weeks. This week, Ukrainian forces blew up the only road bridge linking the city to the east bank of the Dnipro.

Well this is the reality.

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It seems to have been well planned.

@humphrey

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lotlizard's picture

The understated international version of the report, omitting various details the media gatekeepers active in every country probably deemed inflammatory:
https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/belgium-launches-terror-prob...

The more sensationalized but also more informative, “let it all hang out,” juicy-details version of the report:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11414183/Police-officer-stabbed...

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It’s a big piece of the tiled heat shield from the Challenger space shuttle’s nose cone.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11414331/Piece-NASAs-Cha...

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