Donald Trump is a War Criminal. Arrest Him for Murder

I've been waiting to say that, "Donald Trump is a War Criminal". Like Obama, the Bush's and the Clinton's, now Donald Trump is a verifiable war criminal, a murderer. He has waged illegal war in Yemen and killed innocent human beings.

We have another murderer for president. A child killer. Another United States government criminal wanted for the crime of murder. Support that and it's on you too.

"In a hideous symbol of the bipartisan continuity of U.S. barbarism, Nasser al-Awlaki just lost another one of his young grandchildren to U.S. violence. On Sunday, the Navy’s SEAL Team 6, using armed Reaper drones for cover, carried out a commando raid on what it said was a compound harboring officials of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. A statement issued by President Trump lamented the death of an American service member and several others who were wounded, but made no mention of any civilian deaths. U.S. military officials initially denied any civilian deaths, and (therefore) the CNN report on the raid said nothing about any civilians being killed.

But reports from Yemen quickly surfaced that 30 people were killed, including 10 women and children. Among the dead: the 8-year-old granddaughter of Nasser al-Awlaki, Nawar, who was also the daughter of Anwar Awlaki."

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/obama-killed-a-16-year-old-american-...

If you think Trump is going to hold past presidents and government officials accountable for United States war crimes, think again. It's too late, he's a murderer too. Trump is now a child killer, a war criminal and a wanted man that should be arrested immediately and placed in solitary confinement until he wheezes his last breath.

Arrest Donald Trump for murder!.

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I will join you in your condemnation, but I need proof that he is a willful war criminal. If Trump gets removes, then we get Pence as CIC, a blatant war monger.
I expect the next few years to be very rocky. Trump is clearly against interfering in the ME, but he is committed to obliterating ISIS. Also, how will our relationship with the Saudis play out? And Turkey? ugh! And will he actually normalize relations with Russia? I just reviewed President Putin's statement to the Western media about just not understanding how precarious the current nuclear stalemate is. We are on a knife edge, and no one in the West gets it and the Western media refuses to even print Putin's warning. ugh!

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Capitalism has always been the rule of the people by the oligarchs. You only have two choices, eliminate them or restrict their power.

Big Al's picture

@The Wizard @The Wizard But it doesn't really matter now, he's the CINC now.

"The New York Times yesterday reported that military officials had been planning and debating the raid for months under the Obama administration, but Obama officials decided to leave the choice to Trump. The new president personally authorized the attack last week."
(from the Greenwald article at link)

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@Big Al I don't mean war battles, but battles with Democrats and the press. They would have been on him like flies on shit if he hadn't rubberstamped this attack. Let's see what he does on his own before elevating him over the war crimes of Presidents Obama, Bush and Clinton.

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Big Al's picture

@edg A child killed is a child killed, murder is still murder whether it's one child or one thousand.

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@Big Al It's your right to be unreasonable. I just wish you'd been this strict about Obama's actions. He killed a lot of kids, man.

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@edg I've been calling Obama a war criminal since his first 60 days at least. This isn't about that tribal bullshit, this is about what Trump has done and how he should now be labeled, just like Obama, Bush, Clinton, all of them. I've seen people on here excusing Trump and even praising him, saying he should be praised when he does "good things". I say fuck that, he's a fucking war criminal, there's no going back. Ya, just like Obama.

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@Big Al being a consistent beacon.

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dfarrah

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@The Wizard "clearly against interfering in the Middle East". Yemen is in North Africa but Trump is already interfering in the ME by continuing the current wars, hiring a bunch of anti Iran islamophobes, and making the fake neocon War OF Terror his cornerstone foreign policy. Those were all lies and obfuscations.

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@Big Al
So unless you are counting the Arabian peninsula as part of Africa, which practically no one else does - it's considered part of western Asia - we have a geographical problem here.

Libya IS in northern Africa, just west of Egypt.

We have been mucking about pointlessly and bloodily in both countries, as well as too many others.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

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@TheOtherMaven I was actually thinking of Libya, but anyway.

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@TheOtherMaven Then again I consider Florida as an African hitchhiker on the N American plate.

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There is no such thing as TMI. It can always be held in reserve for extortion.

@The Wizard Big time.

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Beware the bullshit factories.

Please don't forget to also demand that the guilty portions of the Bush and Obama Admins, carefully including Sec of State Clinton, be charged with war crimes in an independent and fair court. (Should any still exist, otherwise a new one, independently set up and staffed.)

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

@Ellen North The Cold War was probably too much of a distraction for the oil and war profit monster to get much attention.

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Beware the bullshit factories.

@Timmethy2.0 Iran Contra to name one. And others in Central and South America.

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Beware the bullshit factories.

@Timmethy2.0

Good point, dig him up! Although I think (inasmuch as I'm on my first coffee and thinking isn't my strong point anyway, lol,) Reagan Admin surviving staff are probably already slated for trial because in successive war (and other) criminal admins? These psychopaths seem to be rather like termites, crawling up the walls, digging in to form colonies bent on structural destruction of whatever they touch...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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he's the one who is killing children right now. But I did say that Obama, the Bush's and Clinton's are war criminals also so their arrests should happen also. There's a whole lot of war criminals that need arresting.

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@Big Al the USAns can draw on a map, even locate as to continent, they are far away. And forgettable. Now that schools may not even teach geography until HS, if then, it is not surprising. What countries surround the Gulf of Hormuz, where is the Bosporus? Far away and never learned. Oil clouds thinking.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

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that we hold smaller nations to, Trump, Obama, Bush, hell, virtually every president since the founding would have been sent to the Hague and executed. Not to mention Trumpy Boy's election wouldn't even be recognized as a legitimate one. Same with Hillary during the primaries.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

that if Trump simply didn't start any new wars he would exceed my expectations.

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However, if we're going to pursue justice, Trump is only the beginning of a very long list of people who should all be in jail. Or, better yet, with a bracelet on their ankle doing charity work in the worst slums in the world.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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If you think Trump is going to hold past presidents and government officials accountable for United States war crimes, think again.

Yeah definitely no thoughts on him holding anyone accountable. We had to wait before we could call him a war criminal and butcher. Seems we didn't have to wait to long.

I just...I don't know. How is this a thing? How do people of a nation look at what their nation does and just shrug? I mean imagine if China was drone striking Chicago? Think the American people would still be asleep? Then imagine China saying they were killing terrorists. Then imagine that the whole world agrees with China.

But that's us. We slaughter innocent children. The rest of the world looks at us in disgust at times, but doesn't do anything to stop us, and our own citizens are asleep at the wheel. What do you do? What do you do as a citizen?

If you walk up to people and say Obama is a war criminal, either a glassed stare emerges or vehement disapproval of you. Bush, people (some) will be more willing to agree but still glassed stare. It's just maddening. It really is.

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@Strife Delivery Which is why I keep saying it, because, we just have to.

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@Strife Delivery good.

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@LaFeminista

Oh yes, the commercials tell me so: "A force for good!"

It must be true.

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@Strife Delivery

Literally. Life expectancy is starting to go down. And it won't stop with the white working class. Going downhill is very disturbing; all creatures start to flail around when that happens.

Besides that, they've noticed that they have no influence at all on what our elites do or say (except to call them names). What can they actually do but shrug? Many people are putting all their energy into surviving.

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@Strife Delivery It's easy and fun to get mad at the people of the United States. But if I can't stop the police from murdering a Black child here, how do you expect me to stop the military from murdering a Yemeni child there?

We can't seem to really absorb the fact that there's neither a democracy nor a republic here.

What would you like people to do? Refuse to pay their taxes? Take up arms against the government? Participate in an illegal general strike? Block traffic?

That's where we are. It ain't about elections or writing your Congressman or protesting in the street. They don't care what you think. The only way you can (maybe) affect their behavior is like this:

Put your body on the gears.

But the fact is that even when you put your body on the gears, it doesn't generally stop:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/nov/21/dakota-access-pipe...

And then there's Black Lives Matter, which, while it is, I believe, a partially compromised movement, with establishment Democrats mining it for moral credibility, is ALSO partially free and independent. They're being successfully framed now as violent Black thugs coming to kill white people, which then leads people to run them over.

So when we engage in our tradition of despising the American people for their immorality, can we at least keep it reality-based? We are a captured populace. The only thing that's not under complete control of the overlords is our minds, and they're working on that.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

I thought the video must be snark - he's seriously objecting to the horror of 'fat bitches' protesting routine citizen murder by police? Not to mention the fact that it's not 'just' the death of Black lives that matter, but the lives lived as well.

Here's to Americans taking back their own government to be legitimate as truly being 'of, by and for the people', respecting the guaranteed-throughout-all-American-States Constitutional right of all Americans to equal rights, treatment and opportunity, with legitimate public officials placing the welfare of the country and people above all else in such domestic matters as are also guaranteed in that Constitution.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal Ok there is a good chunk there to digest through.

It's easy and fun to get mad at the people of the United States. But if I can't stop the police from murdering a Black child here, how do you expect me to stop the military from murdering a Yemeni child there?
We can't seem to really absorb the fact that there's neither a democracy nor a republic here.
What would you like people to do? Refuse to pay their taxes? Take up arms against the government? Participate in an illegal general strike? Block traffic?
That's where we are. It ain't about elections or writing your Congressman or protesting in the street. They don't care what you think. The only way you can (maybe) affect their behavior is like this:

By no means am I just trying to take fun potshots at US folks. I am one of them. But it just seems we continue to embrace war after war. Part of it is because since we are so geographically isolated, everything we do is out of sight, out of mind. We don't have troops parachuting into Miami, or drones hitting Chicago, or something like that.

Even our elections, we have strongman Trump saying torture the families and some folks just nod. You have Clinton saying war with Russia is good, while the Dem Convention people are shouting USA USA while chatting up more war. These seems like alarm bells but again people shrug.

But you as an individual, in this century? Probably not. Times to deal with many of our issues were many decades ago. These issues just became more entrenched and solidified over time.

So when we engage in our tradition of despising the American people for their immorality, can we at least keep it reality-based? We are a captured populace. The only thing that's not under complete control of the overlords is our minds, and they're working on that.

I think there are pockets of people captured, but I also think that many just follow along because they just agree.

If you talk about innocent dead civilians in Iraq, you may have heard that no our soldiers are good guys (again use of good vs. evil) but also that well that's because those civilians were housing terrorists or they shouldn't have been in the fighting area in the first place. Yeah the fight was in my living room.

But decade after decade brought us to this point. We now have a multi-headed hydra. I don't know what people should do. I don't have that answer. Revolt? Maybe, not certain how effective that would be for a superpower in the modern age.

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@Strife Delivery
for over 90% of its existence. Not a single decade has gone by without war and was only war free for one 5 year period, 1935-1940. Not a single president has not been a "war president". No other nation on the face of the earth has been involved in more wars in the last three centuries as has America. War has been beneficial and profitable for America's advancement. War has made America the richest and most powerful nation in the world. War has done relatively little damage to the American homeland compared to the countries it has warred against.

US Has Killed More Than 20 Million In 37 Nations Since WWII
This study reveals that U.S. military forces were directly responsible for about 10 to 15 million deaths during the Korean and Vietnam Wars and the two Iraq Wars. The Korean War also includes Chinese deaths while the Vietnam War also includes fatalities in Cambodia and Laos.

The American public probably is not aware of these numbers and knows even less about the proxy wars for which the United States is also responsible. In the latter wars there were between nine and 14 million deaths in Afghanistan, Angola, Democratic Republic of the Congo, East Timor, Guatemala, Indonesia, Pakistan and Sudan.

But the victims are not just from big nations or one part of the world. The remaining deaths were in smaller ones which constitute over half the total number of nations. Virtually all parts of the world have been the target of U.S. intervention.

The overall conclusion reached is that the United States most likely has been responsible since WWII for the deaths of between 20 and 30 million people in wars and conflicts scattered over the world.
...
“How many September 11ths has the United States caused in other nations since WWII?” The answer is: possibly 10,000.
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thousands more children waiting in camps. The countries he has blocked are the ones most in need of help. The WH is also thinking of deporting immigrants inside the US who are receiving financial assistance. Talk about going after the most vulnerable.

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To thine own self be true.

@MarilynW

It's like attacking poorer, smaller countries to steal their stuff - the most vulnerable are perceived as being least likely to be able to fight back and therefore first targeted by bullies. It takes time to become blindly over-bold enough to attack those countries able to respond to conventional military muggings and invasions, although bullies always mistake the ability to reason and to avoid moving directly to violence as 'the final and only solution' for weakness, being unable to recognize sanity as desirable and a survival characteristic.

And these are the 'War On The World' tactics in play in America, in the 'War on The Non-Billionaire Citizens (and others)', starting with the readily identifiable most vulnerable and aiming up, with even the most powerful therefore unsafe in a pathological culture.

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CB's picture

conspiracy to commit murder as well as the murder. The courts consider conspiracy to be the greater evil due to the fact that the murder would likely not have taken place without impetus from the conspirator in the first place.

We can now see Trump being accused of the very crimes that Saint Obama did on a regular and repeating basis that were mostly left unreported and/or rationalized.

The Beatification of Barack Obama
As the eight-year term of America’s first black President draws to a close, the media are already in the process of myth-making. There’s room for an honest autopsy of a man who promised a new kind of world, and delivered merely warmed-over soundbites and a few fake tears.

“With Barack Obama’s exit the US is losing a saint.” writes Simon Jenkins in the Guardian, whilst Ann Perkins praises his “grace, decency and defence of democracy”. Lola Okolosie rhapsodises on his legacy of “warmth, love, resilience”.

Already the storyline is set – Obama was a good man, who tried to do great things, but was undone by a Republican senate, and his own “sharp intelligence”.

These people, as much as anybody, reflect the cognitive dissonance of the modern press. “Liberals”, to use their own tortured self-descriptor, now assign the roles of good guy and bad guy based purely on aesthetics, convenience and fuel for their vanity. Actions and consequences are immaterial.

For the sake of balance, here is a list of Saint Obama’s unique achievements:
[list much too large to list here]
...
He had a nice smile, and a good turn of phrase. He was witty, and cool, and looked good in a suit… but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t just more of the same. He could say the right things, and sound like he meant them, but he was still a monster. As he moves out to pasture, the press will try to spit-shine Obama’s tarnished halo, to try to convince us that he was a good man at heart and that, as politicians go, we can’t do any better.

But yes, we can.

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@CB Is Obama turning into Reagan?

Like Reagan is the perfect, saint Republican. Is Obama slowly being morphed into the Dem version of that?

Every critique you throw gets tossed aside as the Repubs fault. I don't know, something I wanted to throw out there.

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