Could Trump win a Nobel Peace Prize?

When I did a Google search for "Trump threat to world peace" I got 42,100,000 results.
"Trump madman" got 2,400,000 results. "Trump nuclear war" gets 87,900,000 results. "Trump dangerous" gets 148,000,000 results.
It seems everyone is convinced that Trump is a crazed madman who seeks WWIII.

So how ironic is it that Trump is closer to bringing the world toward peace than Nobel Peace Prize winner Barak Obama ever did?

The news media told us that Trump’s big North Korea deal is already turning out to be a sham and US reportedly has 'unequivocal evidence' that North Korea is 'trying to deceive' Trump with secret sites and nuclear-fuel production.
Those sneaky North Koreans. Trump was a fool to even talk to them, amirite?
Actually, no.

The world got some positive North Korea news on Monday: It looks like Pyongyang is dismantling an important missile facility, according to open-source imagery.

Of course the spin is that North Korea hasn't done anything about their nuclear program yet. But since a peace treaty hasn't been signed, it would be crazy for them to. That attitude can only end in a standoff, just like every other peace effort in recent decades.

Washington’s reluctance to declare an end to the Korean War until after North Korea abandons its nuclear arsenal may put it at odds not only with Pyongyang, but also with allies in South Korea.
...Kim has broadly committed to the “denuclearization of the Korean peninsula” if the United States and its allies drop their “hostile” policies and the North has made clear it sees an official end to the state of war as crucial to lowering tensions.
North Korea says it has taken steps to halt its nuclear development, including placing a moratorium on missile and nuclear bomb testing, demolishing its only known nuclear test site, and dismantling a rocket facility.
“The adoption of the declaration on the termination of war is the first and foremost process in the light of ending the extreme hostility and establishing new relations between the DPRK and the U.S.,” North Korean state media said in a statement on Tuesday.

North Korea's demand is perfectly reasonable. Stop the war first, then disarm. Otherwise it is nothing but unconditional surrender.
Fortunately, South Korea is more reasonable, and they are pushing ahead without the U.S.

South Korea’s Unification Minister Cho Myoung-gyon said on Tuesday it is possible to declare an end to war this year.

South Korea is serious about the peace process.

South Korea is reportedly considering withdrawing some of its military forces and equipment from guard posts on the border with North Korea on a "trial basis," according to a Yonhap News report published on Monday.

All the U.S. would have to do is let South Korea lead the peace process, and a 65-year old war could end. The key would be the withdraw of our THAAD missile system that both China and South Korea hates.
This would lead to real denuclearization.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

@The Aspie Corner
If Obama can win one, why not Trump? Or me?

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get some rest ... gjohnsit

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world LOVES that America is once again the Big Dog with the Cold Nose, the Bully on the Block; sick'n'tired of the limp d!ck mamby pamby Librul goodie two shoes O'bummer.

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I think much of the world LOVES that America is once again the Big Dog with the Cold Nose, the Bully on the Block; sick'n'tired of the limp d!ck mamby pamby Librul goodie two shoes O'bummer.

snark tag??

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@Wink  

Mr. “Constitutional Scholar” did as much to destroy long-standing precedents of international law, human rights, and constitutional protections as any recent president including Trump.

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Seriously? Is that what people here think? Maybe you ought to petition the Nobel peace prize committee and explain to them exactly how he is doing that.
There have always been "talks" and summits, but the bottom line of power and greed still rules the roost, even with Trump, especially with Trump.

You say "It seems everyone is convinced that Trump is a crazed madman who seeks WWIII." but the only thing you can stand behind are these two "talks" he's had with North Korea and Russia. While he and his administration are waging economic war against China, Russia, and the EU, conducting an economic and subversive war against Iran, Venezuela and most of Latin America, continuing the imperialism projects in Africa, supporting Saudi Arabia in the war in Yemen, supporting the Ukraine Nazis in the balkanization of Ukraine, continuing the war in Syria and literal occupation of Afghanistan and continuing the fake war OF terror, among many other things, such as pursuing a nuclear arms race and an increase of the war and imperialism budget that ought to make the MIC happy as hell.

Here's a snippet from an article by Michael Klare on what's going on. People have to understand that this power struggle among the rich on this planet is not static, it's always evolving, particularly now that global capitalism has infected China and Russia. People seem to be sidestepping the fact that this supposed rapprochement with Russia is something suggested by Kissinger back in the 70's and recently in accepting the world as it is.

"However ironic it might seem, this is, of course, the gist of the Sino-Russian tripolar model as embraced and embellished by Donald Trump. It envisions a world of constant military and economic contention among three regional power centers, generating crises of various sorts, but not outright war. It assumes that the leaders of those three centers will cooperate on matters affecting them all, such as terrorism, and negotiate as necessary to prevent minor skirmishes from erupting into major battles.

Will this system prove more stable and durable than the crumbling unipolar world order it’s replacing? Who knows? If Russia, China, and the United States were of approximately equal strength, it might indeed theoretically prevent one party from launching a full-scale conflict with another, lest the aggrieved country join the third power, overwhelming the aggressor.

Eerily enough, this reflects the future world as envisioned in George Orwell’s dystopian novel 1984 — a world in which three great-power clusters, Oceania, Eurasia, and Eastasia, contend for global dominance, periodically forming new two-against-one alliances. However, as the United States currently possesses significantly greater military power than Russia and China combined, that equation doesn’t really apply and so, despite the mammoth nuclear arsenals of all three countries, the possibility of a U.S.-initiated war cannot be ruled out. In a system of ever-competing super-states, the risk of crisis and confrontation will always be present, along with the potential for nuclear escalation.

One thing we can be reasonably sure of, however, regarding such a system is that smaller, weaker states, and minority peoples everywhere will be given even shorter shrift than at present when caught in any competitive jousting for influence among the three main competitors (and their proxies). This is the crucial lesson to be drawn from the grim fighting still ongoing in Syria and eastern Ukraine: you are only worth something as long as you do the bidding of your superpower patron. When your utility is exhausted — or you’re unfortunate enough to be trapped in a zone of contention — your life is worth nothing. No lasting peace is attainable in such an environment and so, just as in Orwell’s 1984, war — or preparing for war — will be a perpetual condition of life."

https://www.globalresearch.ca/entering-a-1984-tripolar-world-order-trump...

I suppose based on all that, a nobel peace prize alongside the ones Obama and Kissinger received would be totally appropriate.

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Obama suggested that anyone who might be appalled by torture and torturers was just being “sanctimonious.”

April 30, 2009 in the Arkansas Times — before Tom Tomorrow (Dan Perkins) got his TOPiary reshaping and became “All Trump, all the time”:
https://www.arktimes.com/arkansas/this-modern-world-april-30/Content?oid...
 

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@lotlizard
what is worse
1. when a black guy normalizes torture (con artist betrayal and cheater and uncle tom)
2. when a woman normalizes torture (bitchy sexist - misogynist)
3. when a white guy normalizes torture (white supremacist racist - frigging nazi)

If you know an answer to that question other than "all of the above are bad, no one more and no one less worse" or "none of the above, all the same kinda worse", let me know.

I think we have three sorts of brothers or sisters:
1. ideological brothers in arms (or sisters)
2. ethnic brothers and sisters, who we feel we belong to
3. your own family brothers and sisters.

I happen to believe that betrayal of all those sorts of brothers and sisters cause pain and hurt, on a personal, political or community level. Therefore I quit thinking about if one brother or sister is worse than the other one. It never helped me to do so.

Just saying ...
Peace.

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@mimi  
may well be the third panel. The whole post-war dogma of an entire people’s collective guilt, supposedly unique in all of history — see, for instance, the book by Daniel Goldhagen — how valid is it, really?

The architects of that policy may someday face an inquiry … but the President opposes the prosecution of anyone who tortured detainees in “good faith” …

First Man: And rightly so! After all — they were just following orders!

Second Man: You certainly can’t prosecute anyone who was just following orders!

Sparky the Penguin: You know, I’m not even gonna take the bait.

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