Corbyn 'vindicated' as he pledges more power to Labour members
A triumphant Jeremy Corbyn has pledged to reward Labour’s mass membership with more power over the running of the party, after he inflicted a thumping defeat on leadership challenger Owen Smith.
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Corbyn, who secured almost 62% of the vote – an even bigger mandate than a year ago – told the Observer that his victory was a personal “vindication” that had increased his power and authority to create a mass democratic movement from the grassroots upwards. Smith secured 38% of the 506,438 votes cast.
Setting out his plans for phase two of his leadership after a year of bitter disputes with his MPs, Corbyn said: “I have been given the authority by the members and that is what I intend to deliver on.”
While he insisted he would now “wipe the slate clean” and offer a way back for rebel MPs who had plotted to remove him over the summer, he made clear that it was ordinary members – his power base in the party – who now had to be given a greater say in a remodelled Labour party.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/24/corbyn-pledge-on-grassr...
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The problem for the Labour Party
is that they have to win seats in Toryland.
It's all very well going Corbyn, but they won't win the next General Election.
(As an aside, my father was coming home from work on The Tube one day, and sat across from Clement Attlee, who was enjoying his newspaper.......... without all the celebrity cobblers we suffer today.)
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Corbyn stated that the `rank and file`
needs to have far more influence on policy and Shadow Cabinet appointments, whilst the PLP (Parliamentary Party, i.e. MPs) think quite the opposite.
Should be an interesting autumn in Parliament.
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
Exactly!
There is no Parliamentary Party without MP's.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
seats are volatile enough
lots of those Tory seats used to be Labour seats. I suspect if the candidates support Corbyn they'll win elections and if they refuse then they'll maintain the status quo, i.e. a Tory government.
Hmm. How have things been going for Labour
the past ten years or so? Very electable, those centrists? (That's a real question, though as I say below....
I'm guessing your centrists aren't much more electable than ours. The bloom is off that rose most places round the world. It's been too well demonstrated that the centrists are chiseling liars whose policies create poverty and endless war.
Now maybe Britain is different, and right-wing people would rush into the arms of a Hillary Clinton type--Tory rank-and-file rallying behind a centrist "New Labour" type, which is not, to the establishment's surprise, happening here (Republican rank-and-file hates Hillary Clinton almost as much as I do, creating some very weird political bedfellows).
I no longer actually care whether the Democratic party succeeds or not, but the fact is, they're not going to succeed by running centrist candidates. Those candidates lose to Republicans. If that pattern holds true in Britain, then Labour is either going to win on a Corbynite platform, or going to lose the GE either way, and might as well provide an actual opposition rather than a faint and uninspiring echo of what already exists on the right.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
You sound like the
Blarite New Labour Brit press. If the 'far left'
'Corbynista's'Momentum, 'Trot's, are as doomed as the corporate, New Labour centrist Brit press says they are how come Labour has more then doubled it's membership after Milliband's defeat in 2015?You may be right Labour will not win in the general but I think your underestimating how feed up people are with the neoliberal 1% economic disparity and privatization. The constant attacks on the left and Corbyn by the media makes me think the Blarites are worried. The times they are a changing globally. The 'inevitability'' of the 1% global neoliberal/neocons who 'rule the world' is breaking down. Austerity is wearing thin as is endless bloody war and corruption.
Here's a breakdown of the votes in 2nd round of the coup to oust Corbyn. Mind you this is from the Guardian which is very pro New Labour and even this article is full of dire predictions and declarations of Corbyn is not electable and fear mongering about the upcoming Tory victory and the demise of Labour forever and ever.Now where have I heard this bs. before hummm....."Stronger Together" or else ?????
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/24/jeremy-corbyn-leadershi...
Maybe Toryland will win but I somehow don't think so. From the comment section in an obnoxious article belittling the Corbyn anti -New Labour victory. This one has a very lively comment section to say the least. It's fun read.
by Roy Greenslade
‘An unelectable leader is about as much use as an ice-cream in the desert’, says the Labour-supporting Sunday People - and the Tory press is sharper still'
https://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2016/sep/25/national-newspa...
As you can see I spent my morning reading the Establishment Brit press's predictable reactions to the defeat of the New Labour, Blairtite PLP 's failed coup.
Here's one more reaction from a Corbyn campaigner. It's a good read and anyone who thinks this movement here or anywhere is going now where should read it. Corbyn may lose but ordinary people globally are rejecting the inevitable neoliberal/neocon's global rule. New Labour and the New Democratic party may win this time around but they are going down. At least the Corbyn supporters and people who have joined Labour to stop the Torylite right wing Labour are not running around yelling protest votes are dangerous because ????? Get out of the doorways quit blocking the halls.' 'there is something deeper going on.'
As a member of Momentum, let me explain what all you Blairites have so far failed to understand
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/24/as-a-member-of-momentum-let-m...
Ah the 'electability ' canard
after Blairite 'New' Labour's smashing success you mean?
It,s a Spanish royal flag.
I recognise a flag of Aragon (red and yellow stripes) and of Castile y Leon (the castle and lion in quadrantis). I assume the other elements are similarly the standards of previously independent or atonomous duchies, so the entire flag must be a "unification" flag.
Thank you for posting these as your 'avatars'!
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
Tapu dali
Think 'Enlightenment'.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Banner of the House of Bourbon,
late 18th century!
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
Yes, Charles III of Spain
An insignificant figure of a man with a large nose who loved and lost his wife and tried to do his best for Spain. But very clever/shrewd also.
Goya's famous hunting portrait compares favourably with portraits of his very lacklustre son, Charles IV.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Corbyn by winning by a landslide shows that growing the
Labour Party membership, like he's done, invigorates the party and returns it to its socialist roots. I think a majority of Labour MP's who oppose Corbyn will be persuaded once they realize that it's no longer a Blairite party. The rest, and their supporters, need to be shown the door.
I would hope Corbyn makes a concerted effort to win back Scotland; if he does, I think he has a platform that will appeal there.
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"