Common Sense- Hillary's server issue

Okay, I am going to try to use a little common sense to discuss why Hillary Clinton should get in trouble for your own private server. The type of trouble should range for government reprimand to potential criminal proceedings. I am not recommending a finding or ruling against her, my case to you is there is something wrong with her using a private server in the first place- lack of common sense.

First, I am a corporate person- worked in professional setting for almost 25 years. IN EACH INSTANCE, let me repeat this phrase IN EACH INSTANCE, I have used the company’s email system. Now I have never been a big shot executive, but worked/working in several important roles and positions- mid level management. Therefore, I have enough knowledge and resources that I might have been able to setup/use my own email address and server. However, why would I consider or do such a thing? This type of setup would lack common sense on my part.

Moreover, during my entire career I have never thought, “Hmm, maybe I should set up my own private email network outside the company to be more effective in my job.” Furthermore, what would be the purpose to have my own email account and server? Each company I have worked for has always provided me with a secure email network, policies, and support team to ensure my email worked and functioned well for me. Moreover, I have always signed a compliance agreement when I started working with a new company stating that I would follow their email rules and policies. Basically, common sense states I should use the best tools at hand to do my job. This is a common sense approach

Furthermore, besides a private server for Hillary’s own use, it was set up to accommodate only certain members of her team. That is strange practice, why would only certain people know or use this private email communication system? So not only did she have her own private server for her own email, but she build an email system into an existing organization's email system for just select members of her organization. What does your common sense think about this type of arrangement? This is bizarre in my opinion and indicates a lack of common sense.

This logic brings back to me the question of common sense- who in their right mind would think they should have their own email server and network when the organization’s has all the current policies, practices, best practices, and procedures to ensure the email system is secure and in line with best security/compliance practices? Wouldn’t this type of behavior send up a red flag to leadership in the organization? Just does not make any sense.

Also, I heard that she needed this email solution for her Blackberry, even if there was a need to interface her email with a blackberry that is a red herring argument because my understanding is back in the day your blackberry could connect directly to your laptop/PC to synchronize your emails. Why did she not set up this solution instead of build her own email solution? Common Sense?

Finally, one more item, the person in charge of the private server does not have any records of his emails sent during this private email server/network timeframe! Okay to me this smells funny because as a person in the IT world, I have sent thousands of emails during my career and I have stored and retained the ones that were important to me. Now magically there is no record of any of his emails- wow that is incredible- Common Sense?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/emails-found-hillary-clintons-senior-staf...

Let us just use some plain common sense regarding this topic, place any other person in Hillary’s position (besides the president or a wealthy elite person) this type of behavior and practice would get them into a world of hurt/trouble. However, I guess it is okay not to follow rules or established policies- they only apply to the commoners. With this type behavior, if Hillary wins the presidency think of all the rules that will not apply to her or her administration- it is frightening to consider all the rules, laws, and policies ignored, bent or broken. Besides bad judgment, potential ethnic behavior, where is the common sense- there will be none. I guess her motto will be “Oops, my bad that did not make sense to me.”

Therefore, when someone mentions the server issue is not big deal ask him/her why. Then try to describe to them how the rules/laws would be applied to us instead of a privileged person. Use this above discussion points- ask him or her why she needed her own private email and network that where used by a select group of people. Try to use a common sense discussion with them and they will realize something is not right with the entire situation- if he or she has common sense Smile

It boils down to The Common Sense question- why is Hillary above the law and rules? To me common sense as a leader and as a person is the heart of this entire election- if she cannot manage this simple situation, how is she going to be an effective president or leader?

This is one of many common sense reasons I will be unable to vote for Hillary to be president- she just lacks common sense.

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tapu dali's picture

half of America would be behind bars.

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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

Steven D's picture

if she was using that email system to hide communications from others, especially all the communications that were deleted, communications that might have shown a connection between the Clinton foundation, its donors, and the actions of the Secretary of State who just happened to rule in favor of said donors on matters that came within her purview.

Common sense if you have something to hide, in other words.

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"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott

Lookout's picture

There is a eastern European guy in custody that says he hacked her emails and saw many other footprints of visits into the server. Let's hope he had the deleted emails too. That's the rumor, but we may never know. The elite live by different rules.
https://www.rt.com/usa/341883-easily-repeatedly-hacker-clinton-server/

And no doubt the server was to hide. But can you prove intent? Jeez it's plain as could be but we can say...

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Citizen Of Earth's picture

Whether or not the FBI is too corrupt to do a real investigation is the key question.

The hacker, Guccifer , was interviewed on 60 Minutes this past Sunday. He claimed he got into the email server and could get at everything on the server. He sold Clinton-Blumenthal emails to RT so he had access somehow. Experts said Guccifer was not a sophisticated hacker. So the conclusion is if Guccifer could get in, imagine how easy it would be for state sponsored hackers.

In the 60 Minutes piece they had Clinton on tape saying "the email server was under Secret Service protection the whole time." Well, Just because a couple SS agents are sitting in a car at the mansion gates watching the property, so what, hackers aren't going to walk thru the front gate. What a joke.

And I agree with Stephen, it is the emails that expose collusion between State Dept and Clinton foundation that are the holy grail.

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Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.

tapu dali's picture

you surely have something to hide.

[Logical correlative to "those who have nothing to ..."]

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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

damn - wrong one ---under construction, let me see if I can find the right one

Here it is...

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Unabashed Liberal's picture

play by the same rules as everyone else!

But, good points, all. I don't remember the details, but I posted a piece at Joe's EB (when it was still at TOP) about her private server not even having the proper encryption for several months.

BTW, the Dude who set it up was a previous close aide of WJC's. (helped him write a book, or something) My impression is that setting up the server wasn't in his specific field of expertise. IIRC, he 'took the fifth' during one Congressional hearing. Guess he's cut a deal, now.

Thanks for the post. Even if charges aren't brought, this debacle should not be forgotten, or whitewashed.

Mollie


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Dhyerwolf's picture

Our small firm of 10 people had Blackberries interfacing with the company email server when I started there...in 2005. If we could manage then, I'm sure that Hillary could manage it easily 4 years later.

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If Condi Rice had done the same thing (and she probably could have called on some of her former colleagues in Gates Computer Science building back at Stanford), a certain orange site would have been all over it with front page stories every day. But when one of "our own" does it, nope, nothing to see here.

At the very least, there were probably FOIA violations a plenty since we don't know what was in the deleted emails -- and I doubt they were just pictures of the grandbaby either.

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tapu dali's picture

That's always been the case, from both sides.

It's all just a sporting event. When "they" do it, it's an evil, unforgivable, unconscionable foul. No red card?? Where was the referee!?

When "we" do it, it's a good clean hard hit and "they're" just crybabies. And the referee can't tell. Red card? Ridiculous.

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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

Bollox Ref's picture

so I don't consider Democrats as 'my/our own'.

If they're arrogant, lying scumbags.......... then they're arrogant, lying scumbags, just like arrogant, lying Republicans are scumbags

So, Hillary Clinton is an arrogant, lying scumbag. I feel no 'attachment' to her whatsoever. If the FBI investigation sees her presidential demise, so be it.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

progdog's picture

It made me physically ill, honestly. But he was 100% correct to say that it was ridiculous to assume that foreign governments had not attacked the server, and that he could think of several intelligence services for whom he would lose respect if they had not exploited this literal treasure trove of information.

Hillary broadcast the nature of her server and offered it as a target with each and every email she sent and received, and it would be trivial for a state level actor to break into the type of system she is described as having.

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prog - weirdo | dog - woof

and the Clinton Foundation. What blackmail and extortion would POTUS Clinton be subjected to? More arms deals with tyrants? I don't want to imagine it. My hair is already on fire, thinking about the two of them back in the WH, selling off visits to the Lincoln Bedroom. BFF Herr Professor Henry Fucking Kissinger in the good graces of the POTUS.

I simply want the two of them, the Clintons, to retire from politics, clean up the Clinton Foundation, and play with their grandchildren.

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