Carnage Watch over the Primary Season
The highly anticipated release of The Des Moines Register Iowa Poll — considered one of the most important and most respected polls of the Primary season — was canceled Saturday night ahead of the Iowa caucuses. Over the years, The Des Moines Register Iowa Poll has been regarded as the Oracle that foretold the ultimate winner of the Democratic nomination. The 2016 Iowa Caucus results for the Democratic Party are still held under a cloak of suspicion for being rigged, even by The Des Moines Register, itself.
The official excuse for pulling the poll was because Pete Buttigieg's campaign complained that his name had been omitted by one of the poll interviewers.
Buttigieg's campaign complained of irregularities in the polling methodology that left out his name among the panel of candidates when a supporter was surveyed for the poll.The campaign brought the problem to the attention of the pollster and its media partners.
"Our campaign received a report from a recipient of the Iowa Poll call, raising concerns that not every candidate was named by the interviewer when asked who they support," Buttigieg campaign spokeswoman Lis Smith said in a statement.
"We shared this with the organizations behind the poll, who conducted an internal investigation and determined not to release it. We applaud CNN and The Des Moines Register for their integrity."
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After somehow determining they couldn't really verify that the poll's results were valid, the Iowa Poll's sponsors, The Des Moines Register and cable news channel CNN, jointly made the decision to yank the poll, in consultation with Selzer & Co., which conducted the poll.
By Monday morning, however, a majority of speculators across social media believe the poll was canceled because Bernie Sanders was the clear winner, which is an upset for the Democratic Party and for former President Barack Obama, who has taken a public stand against the Bernie Sanders's campaign.
This sets the pace for the sabotage you can expect to see during the remainder of the primary season. Ball-boy Buttigieg is one of many operatives inserted in the race to block the Sanders' campaign from victory. In the end, Michael Bloomberg is expected to rise out of the carnage and take the Democratic Presidential Campaign nomination.
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Can't expect....
the most important poll of the Iowa caucuses to show a wide lead for Bernie when the final vote tally will be fudged to show Bernie and Biden in a dead heat, or even worse Biden winning the caucuses by x amount of points.
First they came for the exit polls....
now even the pre-polls aren't safe.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Elimination of Exit Polls
was a powerful way to exert control.
Now, a poll unfavorable to the Owners and Donors has been suppressed.
By morning we will be hearing how early states don't matter.
The corporate ruling class is intent on obliterating the little bit of sham democracy remaining.
NYCVG
well....
exit polls not involving George W. Bush or Hillary Clinton are often quite accurate...
I find this season requires a lot of this:
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
No need to wonder why
They all became best friends after Georgie left office. It was a tutorial for vote rigging. Oops! I forgot to add Clinton's name so that the trendolizer can track what I'm saying and send it to the DNC.
My message to the DNC:
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
It's pretty bad when all you want to say to your political
leaders is "Fuck off."
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Oh, I have other things to say to them
But when you distill it down to its essence, Fuck You seems succinct enough.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
The first time someone explained well what a caucus
in Iowa is and means. Thanks to John Nichols to explain, describe and evaluate it so precisely. I really start to wonder about our daily caucus here.
[video:https://youtu.be/wJz0fC-X_QU]
I that is what is done on a caucus ... Gute Nacht Marie.
https://www.euronews.com/live
When are they open the doors of the caucus
8 pm EST ? What a weirdo thing. It's closed caucus. More weirdo. OK. So thatis my time 3 am, February 4rth. I decide right now, I will sleep tight and well.
May Bernie get what he needs to get.
https://www.euronews.com/live
I still don't understand it ...
there are multiple caucus locations? How do they come up with the final total?
...
beyond my comprehension.
https://www.euronews.com/live
You’re not supposed to understand it
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
So far, so good
meanwhile...
I think the Biden campaign will be falling apart by Nevada.
Biden is advertising canvasser roles on Indeed
https://mobile.twitter.com/JordanChariton/status/1224414843228303360
I couldn't find the actual Indeed.com listing.
DMR & CNN...
DMR: What is all this malarkey about Joe Biden not being vital? Why, just last week he came right up to me and put his hands all over my ....
CNN: That's viable.
DMR: Eh?
CNN: Joe Biden is not VIABLE.
DMR: You mean.... Oh. Oh!
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
The poll didn't come out
the way they wanted it to, so shoot the messenger.
They are absolutely panicking.
Job opening; Patsy wanted. Great pay. Free travel voucher. Three hots and a cot. Dynamic workplace. Free college. Meet new and exciting people.
Lifetime position.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
crikey, it's bald.
allow me to add a few snippets from patrick martin's 'On eve of Iowa caucuses Corporate media and Democratic establishment target Sanders' 3 February 2020, wsws.org
[Get a load of this hilarity (ya couldn't make this shit up if ya tried!!!!]
Thanks, Wendy. I hope these examples
...can gather all the targeted distractions into a top-level recognition of the game being played.
It is a systemic barrage, and should be treated as thus.
Dartmouth eh?
As an alumnus, let me remind folks that my alma mater is the birthplace of right wing student newspapers like The Dartmouth Review and the infamous “Dartmouth Mafia” of the Reagan administration, which included such deep thinkers as Dinesh D’Souza (aka “Distort D’Newza”) and Laura Ingraham. Not a great place for insightful political commentary...
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
I don't know why they're so fussed.
They're a private corporation and can go in a back room with cigars and nominate whom they please. Right?
I'm listening to more and more blues and jug band music as this proceeds....
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
They are all just
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq25ZJwZJzU]
and they will just panic more after tonight's results.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Things that make you go "hmm..."
The funny thing about all this is, they could be telling the truth. I find it a bit difficult to buy that a poll this important was run that sloppy, but I suppose it's possible. However, it's interesting how things like this seem to be happening more and more and it's always to the determent of the Sanders campaign. I've already seen the "you Sanders people think everything is a conspiracy theory" comments, but you know, when the evidence starts piling up, it starts to look more like a plain old conspiracy, no theory needed.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
Just because you are paranoid
Doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you.
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
I find it difficult too.Unless they hired middle school students
to do the polling I am comfortable calling bullshit. The excuse was that Buttigieg's name was scrolled off of the bottom of the screen in one instant and didn't get offered as a choice. Not a reason to throw out the entire poll. And it doesn't pass the smell test anyway.
My 6th grade niece would have gotten it right
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
Gee, why would we think there's a conspiracy
against us:
https://www.gregpalast.com/bernie-won-california-official-un-count/
https://granitegrok.com/blog/2016/11/bernie-needs-ground-pulp
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
In the little time that's left
I hope the Sanders campaign will directly address what the opposition is doing. Just meet it head on, and get people to see it for what it is. As for Iowa, it would have to be a last ditch direct reach-out of some sort -- not panicky or obviously manipulative, just sort of "here is how they're trying to stop us."
Actually, I wish Bernie had Bloomberg's ad people, because the Bloomberg ads are pure genius. I guess you get what you pay for.
This is the crucial time. I don't think we can afford over confidence. If there's any hope for a peaceful end to corporate rule, it's down to Bernie. He must win.
Lurking in the wings is Hillary, like some terrifying bat hanging by her feet in a cavern below the DNC. A bat with theropod instincts. -- Fred Reed https://tinyurl.com/vgvuhcl
Kyle Kulinski is on top of it
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD5CzBPvhw4]
Lurking in the wings is Hillary, like some terrifying bat hanging by her feet in a cavern below the DNC. A bat with theropod instincts. -- Fred Reed https://tinyurl.com/vgvuhcl
After they rat fucked us in 2016
I went through a barrage of feelings. Enraged one day to utter despair the next. I was done, I told myself. It was futile to keep fighting. Understandable considering that the long held hope that we could finally initiate actual change from a system where blood sucking vipers were hell bent on destroying us, was eviscerated during the convention as I watched the Queen of the vipers stand on stage in her snowflake white purity pantsuit mocking us with her existence by accepting a nomination she did not earn, deserve, or fairly win.
After almost four years since the convention and here we are again. Same vipers. Same goal. Different tactics. And I'm still mad. But I'm not done. In fact I've decided that I will not remain silent. I will not stay home during the primary. I will not check out. Instead, I will inform fellow voters what the DNC is doing, make sure they know how to vote, and encourage their participation. Whether that happens online, through canvassing, or as I go about my day, I simply refuse to make this easier for them by giving in.
So, thanks DNC for making that decision so much easier by being the colossal dicks you truly are.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Again thanks, Anja!
Did you see these two most recent Bernie ads below? I guess he gets lots, lots more than he pays for. . . I watched the Bloomberg Superbowl ad and concluded, "Meh, well Bloomberg might take away a couple of African American votes from Biden." I look forward to see how all the prognostications in this thread pan out come tonight.
[video:https://youtu.be/2WK7q0hS6sI]
Excellent,
* just kills me to remember that 8 years ago I volunteered my heart out for Obama/Biden and was actually advising people to use only Democratic doctors and lawyers. God what a wake-up 2015 was! And it all started with Bernie.
Lurking in the wings is Hillary, like some terrifying bat hanging by her feet in a cavern below the DNC. A bat with theropod instincts. -- Fred Reed https://tinyurl.com/vgvuhcl
Bernie can thank the DNC
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
Predictions, predictions ...
Krystal and Saagar predict who will win Iowa tonight.
[video:https://youtu.be/O8DiA-mjw4I]
https://www.euronews.com/live
With all those forces against him, Bernie's gonna win?
How can it even be possible? An old loud Jewish socialist guy from Brooklyn win in Iowa? The first and strangely pivotal state that may well determine much of what's to follow? How many sinks have been thrown at him already? Sure, there's more to come but it wasn't supposed to go this way! No waaaaay!
I think the Rising folks are way off on Biden who will come in second if only because he will be picking up most supporters on the second round from those candidates coming in short of the 15% required threshold to stay in the running.
And I will even be shocked if Biden comes in below 15% in the first round whereas it seems that polls continue to show Buttigieg and Warren toddering right below there while the other candidates won't even come close.
Yea, there will be more than a few reported miscounts and stories galore of hijinks. Politics is dirty, especially with this much on the line. When I was much younger and working for a local candidate, I was shocked by the amount of crap that was thrown about and an old timer came up to me and said, "Kid, there ain't no such thing as virgins in politics."
I love me my old loud Jewish socialist guy from Brooklyn
and that's just so. Nothing I can do about it. For now it's Bernie. I am sure I am not the only one, who feels that way.
You will see, wanna bet? And if not, then because as a person who is used to parliamentary democracies, I blame it on the way those caucus construct is so convoluted and off the charts of anything vaguely democratic, that I just dismiss the whole shebang.
I am a very bad person, talking like this, I know. But I would invite you to explain your caucus system to any foreigner overseas. I just love the American people and feel it's not their fault that they have to live with such a weirdo governmental system.
Peace and Nothing for Ungood.
https://www.euronews.com/live
I take this back - because this guy
made me look at these caucus logistics to be so awful, but outstanding, that I can't keep criticizing anything anymore about it.
Sanders Campaign Senior Advisor Chuck Rocha describes how the Senator and his team have been preparing for Iowa.
[video:https://youtu.be/3PT1jCkeqjQ]
I am just baffled. 1700 plus caucus locations?
https://www.euronews.com/live
turnout, turnout, turnout
A big turnout not only boosts Sanders' numbers, it dilutes Biden's numbers well below viability and dilutes Buttigieg's numbers to single digits.
It looks like Sanders may pull out a win with a smaller turnout, but it won't be decisive.
Last summer the second choice for Sanders voters was Biden, and the second choice for Biden voters was Sanders. This morning Rising said the second choice for Biden voters was still Sanders.
Buttigieg voters may go to Klobuchar and vice versa, but in precincts where Biden is not viable look for Sanders' numbers to climb further.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
I don't expect Klobuchar to go above 15%
I'll be surprised if Buttigieg goes over 15%.
I really don't grasp how folks think Biden isn't viable when his aggregate RCP is close to 20%, just behind Bernie.
Because the top line poll numbers are rubbish
Only the cross tabs tell us anything, and then you have to factor in turnout which is anyone's guess. Biden has very little support (like 7%) below age 50. Big turnout will drag his numbers down, even below viability.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
I hope you're right about Biden
Obviously, reports are all indicating that the turnout will be high. Good weather and much excitement. Changing lotsa caucus sites to bigger facilities.
Check out #CaucusForBernie on twitter for updates.
I'm seein' lotsa Yang Gang kids' enthusiasm. I sure hope they all move to Bernie in the second round.
Great interview with Sanders and Hasan Minhaj:
Patriot Act Bonus: Hasan Sits Down With Bernie Sanders | Patriot Act with Hasan Minhaj
[video:https://youtu.be/iaqcwyZPuKg]
https://www.euronews.com/live
"What if Iran attacks Israel" ? No question about the reverse
Other than that Bernie thankfully didn't bite on the bait of 'whatta we gonna do to Iran?'and got his message out over the idiocy and I doubt Bernie left with that 'sock'.
"Eins rauf mit Mappe und Frühctück" my father would have said to
to the pork plant wprkers. (older saying of teachers who wanted to praise and reward students, who did well, allowing them to move up one row of all desks in a rows)
Pork Plant Workers Turn Out for Sanders in First Caucus in Iowa
One done, next to go.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Did the Warren campaign instruct her supporter not to realign?
This might be just a matter of a stubborn caucus goer. We'll see if and how the Warren campaign is telling her supporters to realign in the second round.
I learned how to spell realign today.
The media will declare Bernie the loser
If he wins it will be because of obnoxious Bernie Bros. I know. Makes no sense! And if he comes in 2nd it'll be "fell short of expectations".
If he wins Iowa, New Hampshire, does well in South Carolina, the Dems will go all out after him and any fighting back will be considered bad manners...the way Peggy Noonan would talk.