Building my Hot Rod, Day 1
So, I was going to go down to the computer store today and put down a hundred bucks on a sub-optimal computer. Was all convinced and ready to go. I didn't check the hours of the place. They aren't open on Thursdays.
So I'm walking on my way down 82nd, and I notice a Pawn Shop, and think, just for the hell of it, let's pop in. And there, in the case, is a vintage 2007, Antec Design Titan 650 Server Enclosure for 50 bucks. Complete with the TP3-650 power supply. Hard Drive, Video card and Mother Board have been stripped, but this is an incredible find, regardless. I quickly do the math, and realize I'd be ahead about 300 dollars than if I was to purchase these parts separately. So, I've decided, to build my own Hot Rod, rather than save for a pre-built one.
Portland is seeing one of the hottest days in a while, and I just lugged the thirty pound case over 2 miles home, but damn it feels good to be looking at it. It's at least twice the working space of my current computer, over double the power capacity, and even has some old stuff on it that you can't even find anymore. (It's even got a 3.5 floppy drive, and three bays for Removable Hard Drives. )
It's gonna take time, and money, but a hell of a lot less than just plunking down cash for a Computer that doesn't even have what I want on it. I feel like the guy who walked home from the closed car dealer to find a '57 Chevy on blocks at the Junkyard for a song.
Going to have to do a LOT of research because I've never built a PC from the ground up before but it's a great starting point. I figure that it will be a lot more satisfying in the long run than just paying somebody else to do it, and I'll have a much better idea in the long run for how the thing actually works. As of right now, I'm just working off the last of the sweat, drinking some water, and already feeling good. I think this is a feeling more gamers could use, honestly. Putting the time, sweat and effort into your entertainment, in order to truly appreciate it.
Maybe I'm just getting philosophical in my old age, but I'm really appreciating the things I have to WORK for more than I appreciate those things that are just available. Much like I always Mod my games, now I'm just taking it a step further.
So any geeks out there who want to give me tips, I'm ALL ears. This is a new experience for me, and I plan on making this a good one. Eventually I hope to have this machine running Windows 7, a Radeon 980ti Video Card, A couple Terabyte hard Drives, and at least a quad core central processor with at least 20-40 Gigs of Ram. Because this case has the SPACE for it. Probably going to have to invest in a decent cooling system as well, but once again, it's part of the experience.
Not much major to talk about other than that today. Just trying to DO something other than wallow in misery.
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Sounds like lots of fun
It's great to have a box you can just experiment with. I remember once I had a 386, back in 1995, and it had some kind of problem and I just started kind of doing things to it, until all I was left with was a white screen. Then I backed the whole process up until I was back where I started. Fascinating. Did a lot to make me less intimidated by computers.
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I've done basic modifications before...
but never built one from the ground up, so this should be a lot of fun. One thing I find personally is that understanding how a thing works is usually the first step to REALLY enjoying it.
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Not so hard...
to build your own. Finding drivers may be a bit tricky. But damn, a 980ti vid, quad core and 20-40 ram, that oughtta' push Donkey Kong and Angry Birds! Even without overclocking!
Heh, well, I'm tired of playing Civilization on minimum specs...
Funny thing is I don't exactly NEED that much power, but since I've got the Chassis for it, might as well drop in the Hemi...
Hardware I'm pretty good on following directions on, the main part I'm worried about is the Software. On the plus side, I don't have to put in anything I don't want, so I'll strictly be sticking to ethernet connections, no wireless access, etc... (Paranoid? Not really, I had a bad experience once with a neighbor stealing my bandwidth.)
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Btw, if you're interested, here's the enclosure I got...
for 50 bucks. Power supply included.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=891394&gclid=Cj0K...
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Darn
I had visions of a Rat Rod Beetle.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
If I could, I would.
I love SuperBugs, but they don't even make base Bugs anymore...
(If I did that, I'd have to go with the Dean Jones variant and get a Porsche engine. )
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Well, you never know what you'll find
in a pawn shop.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Only buy what you need for the applications you use.
An SSD is mandatory for boot speed. Make sure it has room for your applications and the working data files. Digital cameras create a lot of data.
Pay attention to cooling and in this department quiet counts.
USB3 and SATA 3 or better on the mainboard you choose.
If your Win 7 license is OEM buy a mainboard with the most modern CPU socket. You can upgrade the CPU later. My mainboards have failed in two boxen and upgrading is limited to the CPU socket.
Peace?
Peace?
Good news on the cooling front...
Is that this case was specifically designed for good airflow. LOTS of ventilation and fan mounts.
Thank you for the tips. I'm thinking of doing a hybrid memory with the main OS and boot running off a SSD and everything else on old school hard drives to keep the cost down.
I'm still shopping around for a motherboard, but I intend to get the best I can in the interest of upgrading later. if I need to make sacrifices in other areas in order to do, no rush. (Fortunately this is a LONG-term project, so I'm not stressed about getting it done NOW)
Unfortunately, I'll probably have to buy a new Win 7 license since I no longer have any of the original install disks. (LONG since lost at least 7 years ago) Fortunately, it looks like that will be fairly cheap.
Thank you very much once again, you've given me a lot to think about. I'm very happy with the potential this set up has.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
If the case has a Windows OEM sticker
You may be able to take advantage of it.
My cases include 35 watt fans with 10 ohm resistors in series.
Two each and I'm not running them this summer.
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&teamnum=48083...
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If you want to keep it local, then Free Geek & Frys Electronics
Free Geek for cheap parts and advice (tho it will be Linux-centric), and Fry's for cheep hard drives and memory and the odd specific bits that you will discover that you'll need for your steed. PM me if you ever want to make a run out to Wilsonville (I'm in Woodstock) - there's always something to buy at Fry's.
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I'll check their websites and let you know. :)
Right now, it's still day one, so I'm checking specs on Motherboards, since that's really the next big item.
Most of the ones I'm looking at are pretty pricey, so I'm trying to determine how low I can go and still get decent performance. I don't want to skimp on something that's going to potentially limit everything else in the system.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Good for you,
I live by pawn shops. I always go to the pawn shops first. It is a bit time consuming but it has been worth it over the years. Don't let building a machine intimidate you. When ya spend only 50 bucks, a catastrophic mistake, well is not that expensive. Yeah I do understand 50 bucks for you and me, is probably a weeks worth of food, but it's not like $1,000 just wasted by a simple mistake, right.
At one point, many moons ago, I had a small server farm of 8 machines, all of them were Dell Precision 420 work stations, dual processors, 1 gig, dual monitor video cards and multiple 10,000 rpm SCSI drives. The company I bought them from, a reseller of used computers, had no clue as to their video editing capabilities. The video software I use has a network rendering engine that enable you to connect your machines in the network and send the rendering to the net work and allow you to work on other stuff, while your video is rendering.
I'm still hoping and dreaming of something like this BOXX Computers, but at 10K for the base model, I might be waiting a while. I can still dream can't I? LOL.
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I honestly feel a little guilty going.
Because it feels like I'm profiting off the misery of somebody else. I always keep thinking "Somebody had to be in desperate need to sell this here..." (Maybe that's just my days of living in LA and hocking everything I owned to pay the rent from month to month)
And yeah, I felt better, about spending the fifty today, because I had budgeted for 100 and expected nothing for it, yet. Instead I got half my money and a fun hobby. It's been a long time since I did videos, and if anybody's interested I can always point em to my google dropbox where I stored a bunch of em. Some are better than others, but It was a very cheap, one man show on Blip...
Oy, that's one HELL of a computer, BTW. Mine, well, at least it's gonna have Style... (Daughter has begged to help, after she got back from school, so looks like this is going to be a family project! SCORE!)
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My Hot Rod...
Is a 5 year old White MacBook that I maxed out on Ram and put a 500Gb Solid State Hard Drive in...
I use a 2 Tb External HD for storage and My iTunes Library...
Wanna Run It? I'll go on a cold start boot up to downloading a torrent in 8 seconds....
I'm not a gamer though but it seems to do fine editing pics in Gimp and editing videos in iMovie...
I get the neighbor stealing bandwidth thing... LOL
I have one that hasn't password protected and encrypted his Wi-Fi...
My iTunes Library thanks him for it...
I do everything else on my own connection just overnight downloads on his...
What else would a good pirate do?
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
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Ah, solid state...
I admit I'm a PC guy at heart. Ever since Apple abandoned the Apple II line which was what I grew up on... (Which was superior to the Mac line, I might add, and could run the Mac interface... in COLOR)
I have no doubt you'll beat me off the line when my machine is finished. But once we get onto the Graphical Mile...
(Good EATX Motherboards, which were what my case was designed for, are upgradable to 124 Gigs of RAM... Don't know if I'll be able to afford one of the BEST, but the 64 Gig ones are looking in the right price range...)
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.