Biden news: Why no one should vote for Joe Biden
Every once in awhile we can see someone poke her or his head into a Facebook group of which I'm a member, to offer up the Joe Biden talking points. At some point they are made to go away by the group administrator. But making them go away from a little Facebook group isn't really a solution to anything, so this diary has become necessary. My assumption that "this stuff should be obvious" appears to have been borne out only by the circle of those who are already in political solidarity with me, and that is a much smaller circle than that of my friends.
In posting this diary, I recognize that I am repeating arguments that I have made elsewhere. But this diary has to happen anyway, because the arguments have to be put in one place so as to increase their persuasive powers.
Yesterday Reuters published the results of a poll in this year's Presidential race:
The nationwide poll of 1,250 U.S. adults showed Trump leading Biden 40% to 34% with the rest unsure or planning to vote for someone else or no one. The poll had a margin of error of three percentage points.
This is a really depressing poll. It's not depressing because Trump is winning, but, rather, because 34% of the public still doesn't get it.
Perhaps it will help that the International Court of Justice recommended that Israel not commit acts of genocide. Which of course means that Israel is doing just that at this time, and so Joe Biden is being caught aiding and abetting genocide.
So, if you're a Biden voter, you're going to vote for a principal accomplice to genocide. How is anyone to take you seriously on anything you say? It will automatically be negated by how you voted.
Maybe you have concerns about Biden but are willing to vote for him anyway? That puts you in the same boat as a significant number of Biden staffers.
WE'RE NEXT
Let's review how it got this way. Israel is a US proxy regime. The current government of Israel wants the residents of Gaza gone, either out of the country or slaughtered en masse. The current leader of Israel owes the fact that he's not in prison to the perpetuation of the current state of conflict. Joe Biden is willing to give him what he wants regardless of his behavior.
This, then, is why Joe must go. Joe already tried this sort of mass-slaughter-through-proxy thing in Ukraine, and, what, a few hundred thousand dead bodies later, they're giving up? What Team Biden really wants, then, are bigger wins with higher death tolls. Provoking nuclear war is fine and dandy with these people -- it's a good thing that it's not fine and dandy with the Russians.
BUT OMIGOD TRUMP
Yeah, all that stuff about Trump.
Seriously -- if these people believed what they were saying, they wouldn't be running a candidate as unconvincing as Joe Biden against Donald Trump. I'm so terrified that we're going to have a President again who will be spending most of his time eating junk food and playing golf. Trump is an asshole, to be sure. But he doesn't like multiple wars, for the stupid reason that if he had them he wouldn't be able to f*ck off for the requisite number of hours each day. It really sucks that they're making him, Trump, into the alternative to Biden. But gosh, Batman, isn't there something we can do? Well, there's RFK Junior, Jill Stein, and Cornel West to vote for.
BUT OMIGOD NIKKI HALEY!
Yeah, Nikki Haley sucks. But let's be clear: Nikki Haley is a creature of billionaires, Democratic Party billionaires, the same bunch who don't want Trump to be the Republican nominee. Jimmy Dore again:
This is why she won't win.
THE ABORTION RIGHTS PITCH
Let's be clear. Dobbs made abortion rights the province of the states. The Dems have had dozens of opportunities to codify Roe v. Wade, and refused all of them. Are Biden and Trump running for a state office? No. Therefore abortion rights have nothing to do with whomever is President.
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WON'T ABANDON BIDEN
My argument here is aimed at all of the Democratic Party tribalists reading this post. So you vote Blue no matter who, and this is your excuse for voting for Biden. One thing to note here is that there are plenty of people within the Democratic Party who would make better Presidents than Joe Biden, and there are plenty of people who want Joe to step aside, but they're not running out of deference to the party apparatus, which won't abandon Biden at this time. Here it must be added: one of the reasons the party apparatus won't abandon Biden at this time is that there is still too much of the voting public willing to vote for Biden. That means you, vote Blue no matter who voters. You are in the way. Stop! Get out of the way.
ABANDON BIDEN
There are, if DuckDuckGo is to be believed, a number of news headlines about Muslim leaders in Michigan willing to abandon Biden. Where is their formal organization? It's time to create one, and for it to start buying up the appropriate domain names.
Comments
Caitlin Johnstone on the Dems
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Oh, sure, of course.
“When there's no fight over programme, the election becomes a casting exercise. Trump's win is the unstoppable consequence of this situation.” - Jean-Luc Melanchon
Here’s why shitlibs are voting for Biden
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/1/25/2219550/-What-Has-Biden-Done
Long list of his accomplishments, but they sure are selective with what he hasn’t done that he said he would do.
And their support for the word salad speaker is off the charts.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Gotta love the foreign policy summary
500,000 dead bodies and two idiotic "counter-offensives" later, Ukraine about to collapse.
By having the member states give their weapons to Ukraine, where they have been destroyed by Russian air attacks.
The one begun by that "dangerous madman" Donald Trump.
Watch America howl if and when China retaliates.
Another pile of corpses, coming up.
Footnote: the "domestic policy achievements" list forgot to include important Biden achievements such as "the Sun rose in the east this morning."
“When there's no fight over programme, the election becomes a casting exercise. Trump's win is the unstoppable consequence of this situation.” - Jean-Luc Melanchon
You summed it up nicely
But they think that it’s Russia who lost most of their troops because they have run out of missiles, are drunk on vodka and have to loot washing machines for chips to build weapons. Seriously they believe that even though our astronauts need to hitch a ride to the space station in rockets built from washing machines…lol. I’d love to ask them about that.
And instead of being against the massive amount of money going to the military like they used to be, they are mad that republicans are holding up money for Ukraine, but they are also behind Obama’s pivot to Asia and support our money going to Taiwan and are even leaning towards a war with Iran. They were pissed that Trump left the troops in Syria to steal the oil, but not at Biden for doing the same. And kos told them that people die in wars so don’t get upset with how many Palestinians are being killed. Collateral damage you see…or bug splat as kos once said.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Heh.
Meanwhile:
“When there's no fight over programme, the election becomes a casting exercise. Trump's win is the unstoppable consequence of this situation.” - Jean-Luc Melanchon
Hey you!
Where you been? It’s good to see you and I hope that the troubles that bothered you have cleared up? I’ve been wondering where you were and how you have been.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
An important article.
Do note that it was published in spring of 2018.
It is worth spreading far and wide just how despicable the "democratic" party is. The more people know, the better.
Stick a fork in 'em, the Jackass Party is done
I guess Ralph Nader was right all along.
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
The published polls are suspect in their reporting
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My guesstimate is maybe 17% of the actual voters want to see Biden re-elected.
Trump? Maybe 27% on a good day. RFK holds around 34%. The horse race depends
on the betting average of daily news blasts. Some of the crap they are inventing
about the POTUS these days are outlandish. Pro-climate, strong borders (except US),
abortion rights?, great economy! and worst - strong leader. Yuk.
Does anyone buy this anymore?
Thanks for continuing the awareness discussion Cass.
"I am done voting for the lesser of two evils"
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Looks like democrats have finally screwed the pooch for the last time after screwing the pooch since Clinton.
https://inthesetimes.com/article/muslims-palestinians-vote-biden-2024-el...
They ain’t voting for Kennedy either because he’s just as anti Palestinian as Biden is. His rabid talk about them are just as bad as Biden’s is. So maybe their votes go to West.
Has Dean Phillips offered his views on this?
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
RFK Jr. voters --
RFK Jr. is the lesser of three evils.
-- are either Zionists, in which case we are in a land where talking points substitute for authentic dialogue and you just can't talk to them, or they are caught in the lesser-evil voting trap. There is a case to be made thatI cannot say that I would dismiss lesser-evil voting out of hand. There's clearly an argument for it. The problem of course is that, in actual behavior, lesser-evil voters are simply looking to dismiss the problem of evil. People, flesh-and-blood human beings, do not typically vote lesser evil with the notion in mind that they are doing evil and that they will try to be better next time.
You may already know that Adolf Hitler was appointed by a lesser evil, Paul von Hindenburg. Exhibit A is the 1932 German Presidential election. I know that Wikipedia doesn't make much of a source, but the paragraph there is well-written:
And then, of course, in January 30th of 1933, Hindenburg appointed Hitler.
“When there's no fight over programme, the election becomes a casting exercise. Trump's win is the unstoppable consequence of this situation.” - Jean-Luc Melanchon
Heh, heh….
Good for them. We should have refused to vote for Democrats long ago until our needs were met, but instead we did lesser evil voting because republicans were worse…but they were actually just more honest about telling us that they were going to screw us. Democrats offered false promises.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Your title "Why no one should vote for Joe Biden" leaves people
want to make a difference in a conundrum.
The choices that are offered are pretty bleak as to where to go.
Trump can be quite entertaining but overall he represents the Uniparty and the overall foreign policy results would likely be similar.
An example of party switch ability is this.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4431661-coal-blankenship-trumpier-...
Then there is RFK Jr. who seems to be trying to appeal to both parties.
His over the top support of Israel is off putting to many and now this...
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4430092-rfk-jr-praises-texas-borde...
The possibility of any viable alternative leaves us lacking!
Don Blankenship…
is just a richer Joe Manchin. I wonder where Manchin is going to next? I’m betting that it’s somewhere he can make a boatload of money.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Blankenship is a piece of crap greedball with plenty
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
Thanks
I was pretty sure that was who he was, but not 100%. I remember when he was in charge of some mine that collapsed and we found out that there were hundreds of violations that he never had to fix and he got to skate on charges for the deaths he was responsible for.
Kinda like Exxon still hasn’t paid its fines for over 40 years. Gotta love crony capitalism in the country run by oligarchs.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
But RFKJr's
Nothing wrong with appeals to voters on both sides of the aisle, as long as it's sincere and honest. RFK Jr has been upfront from the beginning of his campaign that he wants to reach disaffected voters on the conservative/libertarian side, and his prominent position on covid, vaccines and mandates, bodily autonomy, and censorship resonate with that segment of the population.
I admit that most everyone is against the current
situation at the border More barbed wire is not the solution but getting at the root causes of it is the answer.
This is headed towards the correct solution if it is correctly handled.
The worst thing about Biden
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Is how he has gotten away with major league graft and corruption
in Ukiestan for years. Even his hunter son got in on the gig,
and neither will face the music until the Biden crime syndicate
loses power. Hey geno joe, were 1/2 a million dead worth it?
This seems to fit.
Waiiiiiit, WTF???
I was really having a bit of an epistemological crisis there for a minute; there's a comment already here, of mine, from 2019.
What's it doing HERE, NOW?
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
This is a redraft of a diary that was sitting in "drafts"
“When there's no fight over programme, the election becomes a casting exercise. Trump's win is the unstoppable consequence of this situation.” - Jean-Luc Melanchon
No worries mate
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It's just the old revolving resolve routine
I do not support evil.
I do not vote for evil.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Aww, darn.
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
This appears on my YouTube feed
“When there's no fight over programme, the election becomes a casting exercise. Trump's win is the unstoppable consequence of this situation.” - Jean-Luc Melanchon
Biden and his handlers keep shooting themselves in
the foot. The certainly are clueless.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2024/01/26/arab-muslim-l...
Excerpts from the article:
There are tens if millions of voters
....on the left in the US who do not have a political party to join. Nor do they have a candidate to vote for. The last time they showed their numbers was during the early Bernie days. Then never again. They have adapted well to the realities in the US, where there are only only two kind of politics — local politics and International politics. If the geooplotical aggression remains dedicated to forcing the dictates of the US Empire on the nations of the world — that's bad news for the American people, because US foreign policy is bankrupting them with unintended consequences.
Joe doubled down on all of Trump's most horrible policies. Biden hung on to the ruined treaty with Iran that Trump tore up and never tried to restore relations. He made the Middle East even worse than he found it. He continued the pointless and stupid with China, the tariffs of which aggressively inflated the US cost of living, sending millions of Americans into poverty. He never tried to reverse the corrupt tax cuts that Trump enacted for the wealthy. He stole Afghanistan's money and let those people starve. And wasted the lives of Ukrainian in a foolish attempt to weaken Russia. He's left the economy and the environment much worse that he found it, while he is starting as many wars as he possibly can. His right wing, neocon politics has put the planet on the edge of total destruction.
The US is not coming back from the dark, repressive path it is on. The population has been deeply brain damaged. The Left will disappear for much of the coming century.
Yep…
Just like Obama doubled down on all of the Bush most horrible policies and then some. He never really was against the Iraq war. He just said that it was a dumb war. As one person pointed out in the essay I posted above he killed more Muslims than Bush did. And brought in the double tap to make sure he killed even more of them. Seems Russia took a page out of Obama’s book when he double tapped the French mercenaries and then he killed those who came to claim the bodies. That was right after M….. said he’s sending more long range missiles to Ukraine. I’ve forgotten his name.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Are you referring to Macron?
https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2024/01/17/france-to-give-ukra...
Yep
Thanks. I just remembered his name 10 minutes ago when I was thinking of macroon.. and a light bulb went off. I wonder if he has made any statements since Russia blew up more of its soldiers?
"Mess with the bull and you get the horns."
In other words, F around and find out.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Add the true left to the independents
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and what is left? Diebold, brainless moderates and the extremes I guess.
Not a good representation of the masses. Voting becomes less indicative
as time rolls on. But we have polls to show us how we think!
I'm voting for neither Braindead Byedone
nor orange, badly made up, maggotbrained tRump. I will vote down ballot as I checked and voting in the slowly sinking Sandbar Peninsula state allows a voter to skip and/or write in. The POTUS choices are nauseating, and an insult to a halfway intelligent human.
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
Single issue voters do seem often enough to get
what they want. Pro life, for example, and gun laws. My single issue is I Hate Monsanto, AKA Monsatan, in particular, and our toxic industrialized food supply in general For that reason I intend to vote for Kennedy. I don't like his stance on Israel, my own opinion about the ME is a pox on both their houses. I wish he had a stronger anti-war position, which I would like to see at the top of his agenda. I don't expect him to win, but I do hope a new, sensible party will come out of this campaign, and I hope that party will include, as a founding principle, that people have a right to subsistence.
Mary Bennett
Apparently RFK is toying with the idea
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of running on the Libertarian ticket.
Not sure if that will help much, but
may be better than 'independent'?
Democrats bitching about democracy
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But they do everything they can to keep 3rd parties or certain people off the ballot.
Taibbi shows what Kerry did to Ralph Nader.
You don’t have to read much before he makes his point. We saw how they sued to keep the Green Party off and of course how they rigged it against Bernie. Twice. Guess what they will do to keep Kennedy off? He says that we should have paid more attention to the nadar games.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?