Bernie's abrupt change in course throws many crew members overboard

Bernie inspired millions of Americans with the enlightenment about the corruptocracy. People got enthused like never before. He seemed to be steering the Ship of State away from the giant iceberg, which Hillary's Titanic was sailing toward. Well, TPTB punched many holes in the S.S. Sanders so that it began to sink--even though it was heading away from the iceberg. What happened to Bernie caused by his near-drowning experience? He must have ingested the waters of Billionaireocracy as he struggled to save himself. So he started his new "Our Revolution" movement with fervent hopes of continuing his good work during the primary campaign. But oil must have smeared his eyeglasses causing him to lose his way.

Bernie's voyage off to a rocky start

Much of the crew has apparently jumped ship

Those of his financing persuasion during the primary--i.e., small individual donations and no super-PACs--were thrilled to see his approach working, except for the theft and DNC duplicity. Down with the Billionaires! Right? Not right. Along comes a fellow who used to own a comic book store in Virginia, Jeff--"I see no evil" Weaver, who wasn't the best campaign director in the primaries. Mister Weaver is having second thoughts about how to fund another campaign

Now, one might think that Jeff Weaver's financing plans were a lone aberration, how explain the failure to support down-ballot progressives like Tim Canova, nemesis in waiting for DWS, or Alan Grayson, a committed Progressive? WTF is this failure to back Florida Progressives all about? Does Bernie think that the state will be submerged due to Fracking Rick Scott--so why does a Florida vote matter at all? Not even I am that cynical. Why did Bernie abandon them?

I recommend watching this clip from Debbie, the Sane Progressive even though it runs about 27 minutes. I love Debbie's passion plus she makes many good points.

What can explain Bernie's abrupt deviance of direction? I admire Bernie for starting a national conversation which is not going away meekly. But I don't understand his new moves.

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MsGrin's picture

The campaign was run badly and counter-strategically in my state.

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

MsDidi's picture

In my state we were told that we could not hold meetings at the campaign office and would receive no support for distributing leaflets. People with significant political organizing experience were insulted by paid staffers. The lead staffer said, "I don't need your help. My political science degree cost me $!60,000, so I know what I'm doing." The folks who ran as Bernie delegates were all party hacks in the bag for Hillary, and they did things to disrupt attempts to organize for Bernie, while ostensibly serving as his delegates. Our state leader was on the payroll of a Hillary PAC. Apparently there was no vetting. When we sent a note to national to request training for poll watchers they said there wasn't time and that only attorneys could do that. After Bernie's rally the office was abandoned although there months left in the primary season. Despite reporting each of these to headquarters (which didn't have a phone number to call), we received responses saying, "We received your email and share your concern." ??? Never saw anything like it. My friend said back in February, "I will vote for him, but he's not really trying to win the nomination -- just to influence the discussion." Chris Hedges predicted early on that Bernie's run with the Dem party would just bring in more young people to vote for Hillary. Sadly both my friend and Hedges were right -- didn't want to believe it then. Too many honest supporters are not willing to open their eyes to how badly we were taken down the Yellow Brick Road. But there is no man behind the curtain and we're back in Kansas now with Auntie Em.

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Wink's picture

on Bernie, but, yeah, it seemed like his campaign was run by Karl Rove. As for those young people voting for HRC... not a chance. Bernie may not have been in it to win it, but at some point he had to pinch himself, finding it unbelievable he was so close. And still alive!
I don't know what happened after Cali, but Bernie and his campaign went dark, disappeared for two, three weeks. That silence more than anything killed whatever was left of his "revolution." What hurts even more is those of us left to pick up the pieces must do so with 1/3rd (or less) of the support leading up to Cali. We start again from zero. And... "yeah, yeah, sure, Wink, nice try, but your 'Bernie Revolution' died in Cali... " Me? I'm just gonna buy some land in AZ and ride out HRC's apocalypse until some HRC goon knocks on my RV door and says, "come with us. You need some re-educating... "
And, Debbie, please get yourself a blog. YouTube isn't one.

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PriceRip's picture

          80 acres with natural parapets and moat like ravines. Just subscribe to DefensiblePositions.com for your apocalypse needs. But hurry because they ain't making more land, ya know.

Me? I'm just gonna buy some land in AZ and ride out HRC's apocalypse . . .

          Postmortem campaign analysis is a depressing activity that belongs amongst the Dark Arts. I would say: "What hurts even more is those of us left to pick up the pieces" are experiencing déjà vu all over again. While the details are different the feeling that all was for nought is not a new thought rattling about in this brain, and I should abstain from participating in such analysis.
          For me the 'Bernie Revolution' is not even a new thing. None of its elements are new. The execution and structural details are new, perhaps. My enthusiasm is new, well maybe more correctly resurrected from the late 1960s. At any rate, given the reality of history I was rather unhappy with the powers that be's various attempts to discredit Bernie even before the "starting gun" for the primary race. Regardless of Bernie's intentions:

Bernie may not have been in it to win it

,as many here have commented, the system is corrupted to the point that any real democracy in this country is a sham at best.
          So I do the only sane thing I can: The land is real and you can have it for $500/acre. Address all inquires to the proper agent as all warranties and claims should be examined before any offer is proffered.

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Debbie did a great video on the problems with Sanders campaign in MA. Her latest video, as AE linked, really is a must watch.

I'm not participating in what Bernie Sanders is doing now. Jeff Weaver, 501C4, going after Big Money were many "final straws." Mostly, it seems a complete disregard for the people ( us) who got Bernie Sanders as far as we did. Bernie's "fear" of Trump is misplaced, IMHO, I'm more afraid of what Her Heiniouness and Billy will do if they're back in the White House. We've seen what they did at State Dept. and CGF. Not much left for them to destroy which they already own, giving them carte blanche in the Executive Branch is too horrible to contemplate.

Bernie Sanders so fully capitulating to the DNC, allowing Jeff Weaver to "negotiate" with Clintons ( for nothing, unless his own personal gain, guess he got tired of comic books) - would vote for "Sheldon Cooper" before I'd participate in a Jeff Weaver run show.

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Wink's picture

I know many a Jew that are scared right to death of The Donald, and what he will do to them - deport - once elected. His "fear" may be from that (doubtful), or he could just be using it as campaign rhetoric. Fear sells.

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Alligator Ed's picture

Thanks to Joe Shickspack for the following citation, which I didn't read before writing this essay. Since this cite was deep inside a comment string and is applicable to the topic of my essay, here is: Bernie's not in charge anymore

The point is well-made, that movement, which do not become cult-of-personality are like a genie let out of the bottle--lots of things happen, many unexpected.

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"I asked Jaffe about Sanders’s role in achieving that last set of advances. “I don’t think the Bernie energy was even about the election,” she said. “It was about, what is the next thing?”

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Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

The media response was all wrong for that.

If you want to know how the .01% and their political managers really feel about a thing, look at what the mainstream media does to the topic, or person.

They reacted to Bernie the same way they reacted to Occupy.

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--Zack de la Rocha

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And that's why they lost both houses in congress. And they are still doing the same thing in many races.
I think it's the Issa race where he is vulnerable , but the DNC isn't backing or have put a candidate to run against him. I read that on DK a few weeks ago.
DWS was responsible for the disastrous mid term election and if Obama was unhappy with the results then he would have fired her, right?Why didn't he? I think it's because he could continue to hide behind the republicans obstructing his agenda.
Remember after the midterms he started talking about how he was going to be starting to pass a lot of bills that would help the middle class, but he couldn't because the mean republicans said he couldn't.
The only thing I have seen him working hard on in his 7 years as president is the TPP. Imagine if he had put that much effort into passing real health care reform instead of working with the insurance and pharmaceutical companies behind our backs.
And indeed of working on a strong climate agenda, he has opened up many more areas for drilling and fracking.
After he toured the floods in Louisiana, he gave more drilling permits out.
I remember watching thousands of people laugh and cry at Grant park when he was elected. I wonder what those people are thinking of now after watching him expand the wars in the Middle East, his use of the drones in 7 countries that we weren't at war with, and his helping Saudi Arabia kill thousands of people in Yemen.
When the UN was going to take action against SA, they told Moon that if he did then they would quit funding them and Obama backed up SA.
Speaking of Saudi Arabia, where is the outrage when we found out that they backed the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11?

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

lotlizard's picture

in Western countries, and The Powers That Be will continue to make every effort to prevent mere facts and reality from intruding and forcing a retcon.

Nowadays Madame Reality herself is dismissed as a truther and conspiracy theorist.

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Hillbilly Dem's picture

election night back in November 2008. An old friend who has both a Harvard Law School diploma and a Doctor of Divinity called me up at about midnight, spoke one sentence and hung up. He said "Tonight, the American people laid a rose on the grave of Abraham Lincoln." Although I didn't weep, it did bring a lump to my throat.

In November 2008, it would have been difficult for me to imagine that I would feel the way that I feel about Barack Obama in August 2016.

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"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey

In November 2008, it would have been difficult for me to imagine that I would feel the way that I feel about Barack Obama in August 2016.

and yet, he and Uncle Joe will still go out and "speak" for Her Heiniousness, and then blame those of us voting for other candidates if she loses. sad.

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and I think actions bear this out, is the DNC does not want progressives in congress. Or the presidency. They want business as usual and nothing to upset the cart. IOW, They are in bed having sex with the RNC...All for Some and None for All...

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riverlover's picture

no lame duck TPP. So they might be useful there. Although their stuffing is showing now.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

Hillbilly Dem's picture

it will be one of the rare times that I've been thankful for anything they've done....even if it's for the wrong reason (i.e. because PBO wants it).

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"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey

Isn't that an oxymoron like "Jumbo Shrimp" and "Military Intelligence"? Like "Hope and Change"?

I don't trust any Republican as far as I can throw them in my sleep with my hands tied behind my back to the anchor of any Gerald R. Ford Class aircraft carrier, paid for with funds taken from Single Payer and Social Security, coming soon to a US Navy base near you.

We will again be betrayed. TPP will be passed, for the Global Corporate Government will insist.

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Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.

Don't forget that it was most of the Republicans and a dozen Quisling Democrats(including my own) that passed fast track and resurrected it when it died a well deserved death.

I find it unlikely that the Republicans' hate of Obama will save us this time.

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They say that there's a broken light for every heart on Broadway
They say that life's a game and then they take the board away
They give you masks and costumes and an outline of the story
And leave you all to improvise their vicious cabaret-- A. Moore

That "failure to support Tim Canova" is factually incorrect.
, but no longer have the email, That While Berners started supporting Canova on their own because of DWS, Bernie helped raise funds for Tim.

What has not happened is that Bernie indicated he'd campaign for Tim and hasn't. No idea why. ( Yes, some people have speculated that this is because Hillary/the dem party don't want him to. But that's all that is - speculation.)

No idea why he isn't backing Grayson. But then I've never warmed to Grayson myself, so that doesn't bother me.

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Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

He is progressive on most issues. Everything but Israel, really.

Those two things, together, should warrant support--especially since the DNC took out a million-dollar ad buy against him.

Let me put it this way: DFA and Dean would have supported Grayson, under similar circumstances, any time between 2004-2010.

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--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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I believe that we must overturn Citizens United and stop the billionaire class from rigging our elections by funding PACs and Super PACs. I believe that we must expand Social Security and reverse income inequality. We need a Green New Deal to provide hope and opportunity to this struggling generation. And I believe that now is the time to implement free college tuition at public universities and a Medicare-for-All single-payer health care plan.

Maybe Tim is ready to go Green?

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We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg

Think we will make a contribution to Tim Canova today. Anyone else in?

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Fleur de Lisa's picture

I grew up in that district, so I have various reasons for caring who represents it.

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My funds aren't so great that I can ship off bucks every time a worthy candidate asks for more. For instance, I only had $6 to send to Pramila Jayapal just yesterday. She has had to wait in line while what little money I can raise goes to Alan Grayson, Jill Stein, and Tim Canova as priorities. I have had to let Russ Feingold fend for himself, for I trust that he's strong enough in WI to make it without my help.

It's the best that I can do, and it's more than I have ever done before. I still support relatives who were thrown overboard due to the 2008 "recession" and have yet to regain the earning power they once had. I can't do more.

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Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.

was run okay, I don't have a problem with that, however once it became clear that the DNC conspired against him, his promise to support the nominee should have been rescinded and rightfully so! Who would of blamed him for that. He then would of been free to run as an independent or accept Jill Stein's offer. I only can imagine the crowds and excitement that he would be generating now if he would of gone down that path and I do believe he would be leading in the polls right now in a 3 or 4 way race. What a shame!

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Fionnsboy's picture

So many people have given up now, and the media continues to ignore Jill. Once it was apparent the Dem Primary was rigged, which should have surprised no one, all bets should have been off. The people who would have hysterically accused Bernie of reneging (not that the Clintons ever changed their mind!!!!!!) on his announcement early on that he would support the Dem candidate-- i.e., the Hillbots and the MSN-- wouldn't have voted for him anyway. The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on, as they say, and it would have been forgotten in a week.

We have lost, the country has lost, the world has lost, a key and pivotal moment in time-- all so that a sociopatich and power-hungry corporatist can continue to work out her crazy issues/lust for power. The very last thing the world needs is the return of These People, from the '90's, to wreck their Triangulating havoc on a world crying out for desperate change. If there is nothing as powerful as an idea whose time has come, what happens to that idea when it is supplanted by an idea whose time has long gone?

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Semper ubi sub ubi

Something is clearly going on behind the scenes that we're not privy to. Fine, I get that, but I don't appreciate the fact that Bernie is ignoring important issues, like election fraud, and failing to go to the mat for the progressive candidates that adopted his platform.

What's the point of Brand New Congress and Our Revolution if he refuses to go out and campaign for Canova and Grayson in the final days of the primary when it matters the most? I thought he threw in the towel because he decided that he could influence the agenda from the legislative branch and change the makeup of Congress? Is that not true anymore?

Maybe he got promised something and withholding his support for insurgent candidates is part of the deal? I don't know. However, whatever the motive is behind this, I don't like it. I'm intensely disillusioned by all of this, and am quickly losing faith in whatever his next steps are.

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don mikulecky's picture

This would suggest it was not abrupt at all: Have I been had again?

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An idea is not responsible for who happens to be carrying it at the time. It stands or it falls on its own merits.

If someone has to ask if they have been had again, they weren't paying attention.

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Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.

Not Henry Kissinger's picture

Do we want corporate funded candidates or

Or do we want people powered candidates?

The split in Bernie's campaign staff really boils down to that difference.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

Divided we fail.

and yet... We continue to divide ourselves every single time

And TPTB smile.

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Orwell was an optimist

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

These events seem quite manipulated to me, designed to create this kind of division. If it wasn't by design, then somebody was incredibly stupid and ham-handed--it's not like it would have been difficult to predict that this sort of thing would divide and demoralize people.

You can't have the majority of staff leave on the eve of launch, under these circumstances, without this division happening among supporters. Therefore, you need to address the issues well before launch, and find a solution everyone can live with. FFS, can't Jeff Weaver have another job? How about put him with BNC, or in Sanders' DC office, or any of a number of non-profits?

You either want to build a movement, or you don't.

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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that the events seem manipulated. Doesn't the whole story stem from MSM reporting? MSM raised the "issue" of the 501c4 and its funding restrictions, including that money could come from big donors.

If the issue was indeed brewing within the OR group, then you could be right that the Sanders mishandled it.

But we have to make our conclusions without insider knowledge--with lots of "I can't disclose. . . ." assumptions, gaps, and things that we don't know about the discussions within OR prior to the quit.

Why assume further that Weaver has damaged or doesn't know how to support the incipient movement?

Maybe, for instance, it would be a good idea to take big donor money for progressive purposes? Maybe, if a big donor will give you $$ because s/he thinks you can be used to take down the donor's rivals/enemies, maybe that doesn't mean that you and your organization have to turn down that $$. Especially if you need and can benefit from the $$. The question becomes: Are you strong/capable/dedicated etc., enough to manage the minefield of big money demands? Can you keep to your own lines despite the quid pro quo ?

Isn't this where the experience--and yes, also the mistakes, from the past--of someone like Sanders are most needed to further the most change in the shortest possible time in the US, given how the system is arranged, and how corrupt it is, today?

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argue against it--were I someone that the Sanders folks knew and listened to--

isn't my real point here. My point is that, either the people who left were the problem, or Jeff Weaver and his backers are. But either way, you must deal with the issue so that there is no division before launch--or don't launch.

I'm inclined to say Weaver could have stayed out of it, because he was a late addition to the mix. In other words, it was going to be NOT under his direction--then it suddenly was. Then a bunch of people left.

Well, for my money, that means 'don't add the new element.' It's nothing to do with whether or not Weaver is a great guy with great ideas--since it was already known that the staff of that org didn't want to work under him, and had been known for quite a while, apparently-- give Jeff Weaver his own org. Why does it have to be that one? Better yet, plan from the beginning for there to be one org run by Weaver and one not. Weaver can recruit/hire folks to work on his org that don't know him and haven't had reason to get upset with him, people who believe passionately in Bernie and still want to work, but have no avenue for expression. There must be millions such, and probably thousands, or at least hundreds of them, qualified to run a national org.

Let the staffers--who have disliked Weaver all along--run an org separate from his. and Voila! the division becomes invisible to the public, or at least the contention does, and it doesn't replicate itself amongst supporters.

Look, I'm not even *that* good at all this, and it seems pretty straightforward to me: what you want, above all, is NOT to give the media the opening for the kind of articles that have been all over the place since OR launched.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

EyeRound's picture

I mean, was this "big donor money" thing really an issue of contention between the IT crew and the Sanders/Sanders/Weaver crew? Before the MSM started writing about the 501c4 funding conditions?

Would anybody inside or outside OR have cared about it until the MSM dug it up?

IOW, was the MSM casting aspersions on the integrity of the IT crew (via OR and 501c4) BEFORE anyone made a decision to leave the organization? Where did the divisions on principle come from; were they really, irresolvably, there? If MSM knows anything, they know how to create problems elsewhere--as they see fit and useful to their purposes.

A good mini-scandal, timed just right to damage the launch, isn't it?

If the IT folks had real, deep issues regarding the funding sources, why weren't these worked out internally? I lean toward your point of view here. But I'm just not convinced of Weaver's role in the glitch. Why did (do?) the IT folks not like him and why can't they work out any differences that they might have with him? If there were irresolvable differences, then who appointed Weaver: Bernie? Jane? Weaver himself? What would induce them to run roughshod over their IT crew? And is that what happened?

I just don't think it was egotism or mere miscalculation on the part of Bernie, Jane or Weaver. Only neophytes would do such a thing out of egotistic reasons, and anyone with any experience would know in advance what the MSM would do with a last-minute walk-out. We saw that.

Let's not assume that Bernie, Jane and Weaver are new to these games and these problems, or to the MSM's agenda.

I don't think we know enough to know what the problem inside OR was, how it came about, what attempts were made to resolve it. All we know is that it "looks bad," and that's just what the (HRC-devoted) MSM want us to "know."

Bernie et al are probably assuming that people on the outside who support him and his ideas will already know to pay minimal attention to "news" about Bernie-related matters when the "news" comes from the MSM.

Have you had a chance to look at the "Issues" page for OR? I gave it a brief look this morning, and it doesn't look like pro-HRC propaganda to me.

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The Ballad of Mismanaged Optics

We lost our last vehicle--somebody carjacked us.
(Apparently, there's no smoking gun, but
a lot of us think they looked pretty familiar.)
So we were stranded by the side of the road.
Some of us were bruised. Our wallets were lighter
Than before. There was no water
and not much light.

Word came of an organization
that was going to lead us forward.
One of two that's meant to carry
us forward in revolution.

We're all supposed to get on this ship
So we can stay together, and move together
And win some victories after our losses.
Just make it down to the docks on a certain day
We'll all get on board, and the ship will launch.

So we go down to the docks on a certain day.
Suddenly before the launch
Most of the crew leaves. They look upset.
They say the captain is not the person they expected.
They say the new captain has changed the course, and maybe the itinerary.

Then yes, as soon as that information got onto the Internet,
lots of people just like us would be worried about it,
and would want to know why.
Activists, political observers, citizen journalists,
political skeptics, community organizers, social media mavens,
all left by the side of the highway in the dark,
would wonder why the captain was changed,
why the crew had mutinied
whether the itinerary had changed, or the course
and why.

What the MSM does is put that dirty laundry out where more Americans will notice it.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver