Because you can't have an oligarchy without child labor and long hours

An Indiana politician is creating a mini-scandal because, like Trump, he's being too crude and obvious with his greed and exploitation.

Under Indiana’s child labor laws, minors can work for a limited number of hours: 18 hours a week for those ages 14 and 15 and 30 hours a week for 16- and 17-year-olds. Working more than that and into late-night hours requires parental consent. A six-hour work day must include 30-minute breaks.

A new bill would scrap these rules, a move that opponents fear would enable bad actors who expose minors to excessively long working hours. But there’s another factor that has raised concerns: The bill’s author, Republican state Sen. Chip Perfect, owns a ski resort — and he employs hundreds of minors — which has led to questions about his motivations.

Chip's problem is that he is obvious.
The Trump Administration has quietly loosened and deregulated child labor laws again and again without much media or political attention.

The Trump Administration has also changed the labor laws protecting overtime pay, costing American workers roughly $1.2 Billion a year.

Some in the media have pointed out how "bad actors" could take advantage of these changes in labor laws, but no one is asking "why now? what was the need?"
While you and I know the answer to those questions, those answers will be a mystery to "serious" economists.

It reminds me of something I was reading about the other day.
Back in the 1830's in England, some people wanted to reform the factories there. It seems they were disturbed by 9-year old children working 12 hours a day around dangerous machinery.
   So without consulting any "serious" economist they passed the first of the Factory Acts. This law, which can only be considered as "socialism" had various elements, such as:

* Children (ages 14–18) must not work more than 12 hours a day with an hour lunch break. Note that this enabled employers to run two 'shifts' of child labour each working day in order to employ their adult male workers for longer.
* Children (ages 9–13) must not work more than 8 hours with an hour lunch break.
* Children (ages 9–13) must have two hours of education per day.
* Outlawed the employment of children under 9 in the textile industry.
* Children under 18 must not work at night.

  Well the Cotton Manufacturers were not going to stand for this! So they hired a "serious" Oxford economist called Nassau William Senior, who like the economists of the 1% today, was very well respected by his peers. Together with the Manchester cotton tycoons, they wrote a letter to the President of the Board of Trade.

 Mr. SENIOR then enters into an analysis, from which it appears that the whole net profit is derived from the work done in the last hour. If the factory could be kept at work an hour and a half longer, the net profit would be doubled ; if the time were reduced one hour per day, net profit would be destroyed ; and if it were reduced an hour and a half, even gross profit would go.

 You see. It's simple economics.
   If we don't work our children by at least 12 hours a day then the mills will be unprofitable and they will all shut down. It's scientifically proven!

 Any plan, therefore, which should reduce the present comparatively short hours, must either destroy profit, or reduce Wage

If we tax the rich, raise wages, or do anything at all for the working class, it will hurt workers.
 The "comparatively short hours" of 11 hour days for 12 year old children is an iron-clad law of economics. It can never change. Just like taxing capital on any level will reduce wages.

 Professor Senior had a few other opinions he liked to share as well:
[The Irish Famine] "would not kill more than one million people, and that would scarcely be enough to do any good."
   - Nassau William Senior

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Centaurea's picture

Looks like Mr. Perfect isn't so perfect after all.

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"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi

"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone

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@Centaurea the Honorable Perfect asshole.

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"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."

detroitmechworks's picture

Now, combine this with those thousands of undocumented children who the PTB are just salivating to make into unpaid, non-voting workers.

It's like Corporate Industry's Ultimate Fantasy.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaNbm6bwid4]

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

They didn't see the economic meltdown coming, and all was well 9 months later when Wall Street started partying again. It's as much a science as Scientology is a religion. Capitalism's mystic bean counters.

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@Snode The local corporate propaganda broadcast told me most economists see nothing but a booming economy for the foreseeable future.

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" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "

@boriscleto
others at dailyGross insisting that "the fundamentals are sound" all the way through the 2-year lead-up to the 2008 catastrophe.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

Lookout's picture

you can have unlimited growth on a finite planet. Profits before people and planet.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout can be owned and generate profit. Once growth has reached it's limit, capital has to find new paths to profit. In NYC there is a thing called "Air Rights".

https://streeteasy.com/blog/what-are-nyc-air-rights-all-about/

This essentially purchase the right to block views and sunlight to build higher and bigger than neighboring buildings. In purchasing the air rights, how big a step is it to actually "owning" the air contained in the footprint of that "air right"? of breaking down everything into purchasable rights that can be bought and sold?

Mostly they exploit holes or explain unanticipated outcomes in a made up system and treat it as science.

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How we organize economic systems is a moral issue and endeavor. These lackies use numbers to obfuscate from those moral issues and assumptions.

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@MrWebster
"We can't afford free healthcare for everyone," and saying, "We can't afford healthcare for everyone."

Either our economic productivity will support healthcare for everyone, or it won't. If it will, then whether that care is then "free" is a only a matter of economic structures and organization. It probably is true that we can't afford private, for-profit healthcare for everyone, because "private, for-profit" implies economic structures that will tend to drive the cost of healthcare beyond what our economic productivity will accommodate.

And it is certainly true that we can't afford market-based, individually-responsible, private, for-profit healthcare for everyone, because that set of qualifications implies economic structures that must necessarily:
a. drive the aggregate cost of healthcare beyond what our economic productivity will accommodate.
b. drive the market price of healthcare beyond what a substantial fraction of the populace will ever be able to pay

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The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

@UntimelyRippd we can't afford endless war, but we do it anyway.

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Looks like we need a children's union. Protect the rights of the newly un-diapered.

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In fact, the correct conclusion is that you can't have clothes in an oligarchy, without child labor and long hours.

Why must you sociamalist pony-wanters resort to lies and distortions for your anti-freedom propamagandas? Show me the goddamn pragmatism!

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@UntimelyRippd In the oligarchy's version of the old fairy tale, the emperor does, in fact, wear new clothes. New and bespoke, and worn with hand-sewn Italian leather shoes.

Of course, the emperor and his nearest and dearest are the only ones who can afford to wear clothes.

The Emperor issues a Proclamation:

"On the occasion of my 20th anniversary as Emperor, I hereby order that every man, woman, and child be given a tailored suit of clothing of the highest quality. I also decree that a Parade be held, with all citizens wearing their new clothes."

The appointed day arrives, and each citizen is presented with a garment bag. They open the garment bags, and see that the bags are empty. The royal envoys who delivered the garment bags all say, "Oh, look, what beautiful clothing!"

No one wants to be the first person to say "But there's nothing there!"

So all of the citizens of the Great Empire parade butt naked before the Emperor, congratulating each other on their great good fortune at having received such a magnanimous gift. By the end of the parade, they all believe it.

*THE END*

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"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone

@Centaurea
i gave it a thumbs up, but i neglected to note that it is really quite a brilliant little piece.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.