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Ladies and Gentlemen of the Daily Kos community here at caucus99percent, I am writing this as an important message to you.

The way things are going over there on the Kos, we may well be facing an oncoming problem: I fear Kos may be considering making DK into a Third Way/DLC site rather than the progressive, "storm the gates" type of Democratic site it grew up as. He's already called anyone who questions Hillary Clinton's ability to defeat Donald Trump in the general election "fucking morons" (Diary text here) and the timeouts and banhammers have been falling hard and fast on the side of the Bernie supporters.

I HAVE A REQUEST FOR YOU.

Please get to know the "ropes" of this site, caucus99percent, like the back of your hand. Should my worst fears be realized, and all non-conservas and those of us who aren't reliable acolytes of the Church of Limousine Political Correctness get hurled out into utter darkness, they will be coming here to seek the community and the refuge that is theirs by right as thinking human beings. In many cases they'll need a little help making the transition, especially if they never used DK version 4. So let's be ready to pitch in and assist if necessary.

Because I fear it may well become necessary.

Thank you all,
Sean McCullough (thanatokephaloides)
Colorado Springs, CO

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we're ready.

Wow, thanks for the link to the "moron" diary, I hadn't seen that. Just wow!

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Wow, indeed. With a large saucer of "WTF, over?" as condiment!

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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I saw where you had questioned my quote of kos over there and figured you had not seen his diary in which he pretty much urged self deportation of those of us on the left. LOL If any of us had called out others using that language, we would have been bojo'd.

I hope more people do find their way over here and participate on a regular basis. We have good conversation and JtC has built a great platform that is user friendly. Good

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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You're right; I had not actually seen or read the Diary.

I haven't spent a lot of time on Kos' front page in quite a while, which tells you something about how closely I resemble the core of that organization. (Read: NOT!)

I wouldn't be surprised to see old Meteor Blades start posting here soon, either.

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

He came by to say hey to Evening Blues and another time shared some interesting Indian maps with us.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

that he still reads here even though he doesn't post much.

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a wise man. He's just made his place.

I am not going to, here, slag anybody, who once fired live rounds, at the Americans.

As his companero, the late Carter Camp, once, on dKos, wrote: "The Americans shot several million rounds at me when I led my people at Wounded Knee in 1973. I shot back at them and never considered my citizenship any factor, we were fighting and both sides were trying to kill the others. Two of my soldiers were killed but no one ever objected to it because they were Americans. I was targeted in an up close assassination attempt and damn near got whacked, if I had been I doubt anyone would have said anything."

I don't feel comfortable, in anyone not Indian, passing any sort of final judgment, on an Indian.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAe-XZwjeoo]

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Good

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

Nice to see friendly names (and now some with faces!) here and at the new reddit subthread Mahakali Overdrive put up in a hurry yesterday in responses to kos' screed: https://www.reddit.com/r/Kossacks_for_Sanders/

I'm a slooooow adopter of new tech. Trying to learn the navigational ropes here and at reddit is, um, interesting? It'll just take a while. Please be patient with the learning curve, y'all.

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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti

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thanato (kephaloides)--hope the abbreviated version is cool, jrokesmith, progdog, Mass Southpaw, and Brutally Honest!

Hope I didn't miss any of today's newcomers. Looking forward to meeting all of you.

Would enjoy Mass Southpaw's 'Clinton diaries.' I could share a few (DLC) policy briefs and stances, as comments.

Again, nice to see you all!

Mollie
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"The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched. They must be felt with the heart."--Helen Keller

Visit Us At C99Percent!

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thanato (kephaloides)--hope the abbreviated version is cool

It is. "Sean" works, too; I'm not closeted (see the end of the original Diary to which this thread is attached!).

And thank you for the welcome. I do indeed feel welcome here aboard the Rescue Ship!

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.

Been on Dkos since 2004. I was barely involved in the 2008 fight, kinda liked Edwards (yikes). But, I am full on Bernie. And its just a bloodbath there. So, I was happy to find here. Not for an echo chamber, but for a more engaging than attacking blog group. Thanks! Smile

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glad you found us. We check our egos at the door, so you should find a much more engaging atmosphere. Join in the fray and enjoy yourself, you're in good company. Thanks for registering.

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dkos is gagged and flagged - not my idea of how to spend time. Glad you made it over. I think there will be many more dkos refugees looking for a comfortable and engaging place to land.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

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Woot! I was feather fall on DK and left in late 2015 for all the reasons mentioned in this diary. FTS! I just said hello over on the daily thread. Happy to find you all. Give 'em hell, Bernie!

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Resilience: practical action to improve things we can control.
3D+: developing language for postmodern spirituality.

thank you so so much creating this site. Will take a while to learn way around, but if feels SO good to be here. Speaking of that hideous "moron" diary, there was a first time poster who was immediately hidden and banned for posting the following:

https://www.change.org/p/democratic-national-party-i-am-a-liberal-that-w...?

If you support Bernie Sanders and you won’t support Hillary Clinton then let the DNC know that by signing and sharing the petition below. This petition doesn’t necessarily mean you will not to vote for Hillary if she is the eventual nominee, but that she will not have your personal support in a general election, such as donations and personal advocacy. Better to let the DNC know now before the race is decided. Hillary is universally unpopular amongst voters 18-29 and independents, two demographics democrats need to win a general election, in addition she has an over 50% disapproval rating. Also Hillary is only winning in states that are not going to matter much in a general election while losing in those that are, by wide margins. Meanwhile Republicans are have broken records for participation in all of the first nominating contests. If Hillary and Trump win their perspective nominations then Trump could not only become our next president but he could also obtain super majorities in the house and the senate.

I'm reposting it here. Sent to several on DKos by private message. Don't know if petition is still up. But it's what I was looking for when I wrote this ( thought I'd get banned, but surprisingly, only got a few windsocks ( flags) so I'll report it here:

This is a copy of something I wrote in a bobswern diary, seems the petition answers part of it, but would love to see a much bigger action too:

Speaking of Revolution:

Between now and July, think it’s important to let the DWS/DNC/DLC/Third Way, super pacs, super delegates know this election is not “business as usual.”  Was expected Clintons would support Obama in 2008.  They clearly wanted to stay politically viable, knew & were already planning for another run at POTUS.

This election is different.  This election is different.  This election is different.

Just look at how the Republicans rejected their dynasty, establishment candidates.  This election is different.
Not PUMA, doesn’t apply this election.  Not only of course, the example of Clinton bff Lynn de Rothschild creating Democrats for McCain in 2008.  That’s not what I’m talking about.  Clinton has already said, their surrogates have said, Bernie Sanders is not a “real” Democrat.  Neither am I.  The Democratic party lost me when it was taken over by the Clintons, DLC, Third Way.  I’m an Independent who for almost 50 years has voted only for Democrats ( exception: Martha Coakley, did not vote for her, & Evan Falchuk got enough votes to create the United Independent Party in MA) and spare me the “Ralph Nader” attacks, Nader was running on the Green Party ticket.

This election is different.  The hundreds of thousands of people supporting Bernie Sanders, funding him, campaigning for him,marching for him, are not “establishment” Democrats either.  Our votes are not for sale.  We are voting on issues, Bernie Sanders represents those values, issues we believe in.  Does not mean, if Bernie Sanders is not  (Dog Forbid) the nominee we will automatically transfer our support to another candidate just because that candidate is a Democrat.  NOT. THIS. ELECTION.
I will vote.  I will vote for Democrats down ballot.  Do not expect younger people coming out in droves to support Bernie,  millennials becoming politically active to stay engaged in the election process if Bernie Sanders is not the nominee.  So many of the people supporting Bernie Sanders were discouraged, disillusioned, not engaged, before he began campaigning in the Spring.  Look what we’ve accomplished in so short a time.
Revolution:  an idea whose time has come.

Suggestions:   DNC 202 863-8000 main number, probably a robot, BUT, another number 877 336-7200 “ For questions about contributions”  Wonder if a human being answers that number Smile

This post is meant to be a seed. To begin a conversation. What will it take, between now & Philadelphia for DWS/DNC/DLC/Third Way, super pacs & super delegates to understand this is not “business as usual.”  This election is different.  All the people supporting Bernie Sanders can not be assumed to be willing to “transfer” their (our) support to another candidate.

Please, no threats, no guilt, no shame, no SCOTUS, no President Trump, NOT THIS ELECTION.  Waited too long to have a person like Bernie Sanders running for POTUS.
Suggestions.  Ideas.  More seeds.
Thank you.
President Sanders:  an idea whose time has come

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Can't tell you how many times I've posted that this election is different! Nice to see it coming from someone else. Nice to see you here, Caerus. (I'm 3andfro at the reddit subthread.)

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I should have known that was too much to ask.

Graham’s Hierarchy of Disagreement – English

Donald Trump or Chris Christie style bullying bad; Rahm Emanuel style bullying good.

Fifty shades of Orange . . .

Where are all the free-range Democrats? I thought there would be more free-range Democrats.

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[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU_y9FB0QKk]

Because blatant abuse of good people is rather... Well, the song says it all.

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You might start with something like this comment:

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1493831/59991583#comment_59991583

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NEVER to take people with that much self-delusion seriously.
It's like people who think wrestling is real.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6CCMiPTMSs]

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It is really tribalism. I picked a person, they won. Yeah!

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Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?

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That's an amazing exchange, Cas (may I call you Cas?).
To paraphrase what I see happening over there-

Yay, my side is winning!!! (but the world is ending!!)
So says you...Yay, my side is winning!!! (but your side eats puppies!!)
They're tasty... yay, MY SIDE is WINNING!!! ( ok, walkin' away now)
Good! F YOU!! My side won!!!! ...Hey, Where is everybody??? Why are there dead puppies all over the place?? Hello?????

Good to be here. Hope to see many more of our compatriots here. I signed up back in November, I think, and then promptly forgot about this place.
My very bad. Hello all you wonderful, reality based ( Wink ) folks. Group hug (((( ))))

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"When the powerless are shut out of the media, we will make the media irrelevant" ~Anonymous~

glad to see you finally made it over. Make yourself at home.

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Looking forward to reading and participating!

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glad to have you here, make yourself at home.

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They haven'tshut you down yet. We have someone else here that left, and their account never got closed either. I think it was mimi, shah, or shaz.

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was Shah. He couldn't even get himself banned. I still laugh about that one. Lol

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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I wanted to flag Markos' diary but he put it on the front page so there wasn't any tip jar.

One might wonder what the point is in turning a web site into an arm of the DNC. I can imagine, though, that a lot of people will refuse to believe it.

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Well, other than big bucks, I can't see any reason to plant your flag on the deck of the Titanic, and then yell at all the folks who have life preservers, so there ya go.

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"When the powerless are shut out of the media, we will make the media irrelevant" ~Anonymous~

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and reasonable. Old school ranting GBCW works best. Suicide by the schools of pirana's who love to take out any 'troublemakers' who refuse to carry kos's water. Just fading away might be best.

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If you're leaving a community with no intentions of returning and you feel ostracized, you are risking absolutely nothing by telling the truth as to why. Even if the majority heckles you, you are standing up for people who can't or won't, and giving a voice to the people who silently left for the same reasons.

I remember one very well written GBCW from last year - the poster had remained consistent in their values and assessments, and showed how little had changed there since he created his account. His entirely logical conclusion was that his political energy was better spent elsewhere, and his words still ring true to me.

Even at its best, DailyKos interdicts a number of people who would otherwise being involved in face-to-face politics, and everyone ends up a demogogue to some degree. Rather than actively engage with even the most substantive content, people reuse talking points as if they themselves were campaigning. It's led to a political environment where even the most casual supporter is labeled a proxy or shill because they're the most likely to repeat only ideas they've heard which they think are persuasive. Do people really wonder why the quality of writing and posts there has decreased?

The best part of it all is their email campaign for new diarists. They will always be looking for more users, until the rate of churn subsides, at which point the site will slowly fade. I just about shit my pants laughing when people started telling the noobs they recruited to freshen up the place to get the fuck out as thanks.

My plan is to meditate and take a break from politics (aside from mailing in my Oregonian ballot) for a month or two until I can remember what it feels like to want to fight in that arena, and then try and refocus on action in meatspace. I would love to find a local candidate around my age and lend them a nerdy hand. I certainly won't spend another minute worrying about someone's online criticisms of what they imagine to be my perspective.

Anyway, sorry for the sort of ranty reply. This is the first time in a while I haven't been scared to comment at length.

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GBCW

By Shahryar
Monday Jan 12, 2015 · 6:41 PM PST

so long, everybody!

it's been fun....but no longer is.

Hey, I got 9 recs for that!

But yeah, it was so mild that the admins didn't notice it. In a way it's funnier this way, thus better.

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gulfgal98's picture

were Shaz, Marilyn, and myself. Shok

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

shaharazade's picture

Nice to interact with a someone who lives in this state. Your rant reply made sense and so does your fighting in another arena. Oregon while 85% Democratic could use some activism within the Democratic party that has proved to be almost as corrupt as the national Democratic machine. They are hell bent on making a killing off demolishing Portland and growth. Meat space is almost as frustrating as dkos as the same Democratic machine mentality seems to prevail. On the other hand you can get your body down to public, county city, meetings and make waves.

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I have far too much in the way of good content posted over there.

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"The war on Gaza, backed by the West, is a demonstration that the West is willing to cross all lines. That it will discard any nuance of humanity. That it is willing to commit genocide" -- Moon of Alabama

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I meant it in my post when I wished people the best. Just because the site isn't good for me anymore doesn't mean it isn't good for the people who are still there, with different motivations than mine.

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getting banned. I have always said that I will just probably fade away instead of doing the self ban thing. Each person has to choose what fits best for them. A very nice person gifted me a subscription so I feel I should honor their generosity by not getting myself banned.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

hecate's picture

content survives, even if and when you are shoved out the airlock.

You can float on by, anytime you like, and sweep it back in.

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... no problem, I don't have "good content" to protect over there.

I would go back, if that site actually wouldn't claim ownership of comments. I boycott and will continue to boycott any site that makes erasing, closing accounts and deleting content you provided for free, difficult or impossible. Dailykos lives of "junk comments". You can't close your account. You can't erase your own content once you are banned. If you think that is a policy that could survive anywhere else than in cyberspace, I can only shake my head.

Kos said in his diary yesterday that "On the flip side, if you think Clinton can’t win against Donald Trump, you are a fucking moron. Seriously, you are as dumb as rocks."

I am gladly accepting that I am dumb as rocks. Pick all those moron dumb rocks and throw it back. It's him who degenerates his own site and reputation. And with that he hurts those over there who have consistently provided him with excellent content and I don't care, if they provided it for free or were paid.

Don't out yourself there, because the good people writing need your back. I am glad that most of you are here and over there and try to do good.

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"dumbasrocks" wish I had of grabbed it!

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Spartacus dumbasrocks", welcome jrokesmith.

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According to research less than 120 seconds old, the DK usernames "dumbasrocks" and "fuckingmoron" are both still available.

The latter may not be fulfillable, as any Diary by such a user would have "fuck" in the title page. Dash 1

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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An asterisk is always good for something. "f*ckingmoron.) Wink

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

progdog's picture

Frackingmoron sounds good too

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You took more hammer hits than anyone I know, except Big Al.

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I didn't bother with a GBCW, I just changed my profile content to gibberish and left! FTS.

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Resilience: practical action to improve things we can control.
3D+: developing language for postmodern spirituality.

detroitmechworks's picture

in condescending corrections about the "REAL way things get done."

For example, on Twitter yesterday, #MakeDonaldDrumpfagain went from Trending to ZERO in one hour. Checked all the regionals, Yup, still #1, so what gives? Looks like twitter is pulling their executive fiat again. Point it out on Kos...

and get a nice little lecture that of course "Trending" isn't about how MUCH something is used, just about how much the rate is increasing... blah blah... algorithm...nothing to see here...

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NNOrp_83RU]

Fuck it. Tom Petty warned us about this shit before he was forced to stop being political.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOd3tan59BE]

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Seemed like he was playing it safe for a long time after "Last DJ" got censored.

Glad to know I was mistaken.

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

“But!” you yell, “Her unfavorables are 54 percent!” Yes, they are! But a big chunk of that is Sanders supporters.

So if Kos dismisses Sanders supporters they will be disappeared and their votes won't count when they cast a ballot against her?

The place is nuts. I got a warning because I flagged a tip jar of a diary that had dogged down, copied and pasted into a dkos diary, a whole bunch of inflammatory comments against Hillary from DU and Reddit. It was a whole lot of Berniebro that was intended to be flame bait. My flag was inappropriate. The diary was okey dokey.

Welcome to the lifeboat all Hillary and dailykos refugees.

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detroitmechworks's picture

that FLAGS were going to be all about eliminating the cliques and getting rid of the BS.

Until Kos Needed the cliques of course.

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

progdog's picture

Now you can be banned from that website by an anonymous automated process, as soon as six accounts total decide you should be. Subsequent uprates have no effect, which promotes ganging up on people as quickly as possible in largely unread diaries.

Happy to see orange fading from my rear view.

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prog - weirdo | dog - woof

1/3 of the people there are calling the shots. The help desk is a joke. 295 flags on PW tip jar, and it took an unrelenting campaign at the help desk to get her so much as a lousy timeout. FB and Twitter also have a lot of dkos refugees. More people than not hate the place. I find a combination of FB, Twitter and 99% fill a habit that is dailykos. Welcome to you and Mass Southpaw.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

new members join since last night, check out the memberlist.

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It is just so nice to have this place as home base.

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Which was uprated and promoted by Hillary and Co as far as the eye can see.

Then defended by hiding behind a minority woman. Fucking Despicable.

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

it's all by design, especially the anonymous flags, it's much easier on the admins to let the flag gangs do the purging.

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It has been my political family for 13 years.

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Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?

mimi's picture

there is a time for everything, it sez in the bible, which I never read (sorry), may it's just time for the orange to fade and you just live with it. Everything and everyone will die one day. Better get used to it.

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TURN, TURN, TURN or TO EVERYTHING THERE IS A SEASON
(adapted from Ecclesiastes by Pete Seeger, recorded by The Byrds)

To everything - turn, turn, turn
There is a season - turn, turn, turn
And a time to every purpose under heaven

A time to be born, a time to die
A time to plant, a time to reap
A time to kill, a time to heal
A time to laugh, a time to weep

To everything - turn, turn, turn
There is a season - turn, turn, turn
And a time to every purpose under heaven

A time to build up, a time to break down
A time to dance, a time to mourn
A time to cast away stones
A time to gather stones together

To everything - turn, turn, turn
There is a season - turn, turn, turn
And a time to every purpose under heaven

A time of love, a time of hate
A time of war, a time of peace
A time you may embrace
A time to refrain from embracing

To everything - turn, turn, turn
There is a season - turn, turn, turn
And a time to every purpose under heaven

A time to gain, a time to lose
A time to rend, a time to sew
A time for love, a time for hate
A time for peace, I swear it's not too late!

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

I wasn't happy when Bill Clinton took all the bloggers to lunch and turned them all including dailykos and kos into a DNC lapdog. yip yiip That is when dailykos went to hell and the blogger movement actually died. I don't know if he bought them or threatened to destroy them.

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gulfgal98's picture

is that it was the latter.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

Lisa Lockwood's picture

I would love to have been a fly on the wall at that lunch. Then I could have discretely landed on his rubber chicken, wiped my little dog poopy feet on his fork, and flown away laughing Wink
But seriously, I hope, just to satisfy my idle curiosity, some day someone who was there tells the tale...

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you have a great way of merging a pithy comment with the perfect music! Good

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

the best friend, best man, turned cop, turned asshole....

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

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Hi everyone. I just signed on to check this place out and have a home if I get kicked off DKos.

I've been writing a lot lately about Hillary's long and troubling record. A lot of people appreciate it, some don't. I'm okay with that.

Peace.

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glad you made it here. Be sure to checkout the Community Content page where you'll find our daily open threads, they contain lots of good discussion.

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This place is it. Ok to disagree, not OK to be a dick. Most of us are so far to the left of dailykos and the party, you will find no kick back here.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

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Welcome Mass Southpaw! I hope you will continue to write here. You are also very welcome to cross post like gjohnsit regularly does.

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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Thank you! It gives me an outlet for my frustration.

But Kos, wow. It's amazing how the gate crashers become the gatekeepers.

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I appreciate your excellent writing at dkos. This is a good place to call home. I'm in time out at dkos and to tell you the truth it's been liberating. Hope you come back even if they don't kick you out.

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

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I read your awesome work yesterday--kudos to you and for wading through all the crap in the comments!

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Injustice is relatively easy to bear; what stings is justice. -H. L. Mencken
A country without a memory is a country of madmen.-George Santayana
An imbalance between rich and poor is the oldest and most fatal ailments of all republics. --Plutarch

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I've enjoyed your diaries tremendously. Glad you came over here to kick the tires.

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"When the powerless are shut out of the media, we will make the media irrelevant" ~Anonymous~

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fucking moron. Of course, anybody that votes for Trump is a fucking moron too. Kos, who has already proclaimed loud and clear his fucking moron status, is going to have a lot of moron friends join him when they vote for the two moron political candidates, Clinton and Trump. Maybe at this point in time in our country's history we should officially change the name to the United States of Fucking Morons.

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Right now I'm looking forward to living in the country of Portlandia when the shit hits the fan. Smile

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

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“But!” you yell, “Her unfavorables are 54 percent!” Yes, they are! But a big chunk of that is Sanders supporters.

So once Hillary struggles, will it all be the fault of Sanders supporters? Will Bernie be the new Ralph?

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Any time people actually vote for what they believe in...

We're to blame for not settling for crap, therefore we DESERVE to be blamed for every evil that befalls the nation.

Just funny how we can Actually FIGHT against evil Rethugs. Hell with it, we're doing Kos and his ilk a favor. A Trump presidency will swell traffic to his site like never before. And the Hippy Punching bags will be numerous and submissive.

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“But!” you yell, “Her unfavorables are 54 percent!” Yes, they are! But a big chunk of that is Sanders supporters.

Ummm, kos, were they "Sanders supporters" in 19-effing-92 when Republicans and Democrats alike proclaimed "No Billary"? And made it clear that the objections centered around her more than him?

Hillary will struggle if nominated; she is more likely to lose to Donald Trump than Bernie Sanders is; and that fact is most emphatically NOT the fault of those Dems who favor Sanders. We're dealing with an electorate which is nearly half party-unaffiliated. And those voters do not want any more Clintons. That's not our (Sanderistas') fault!

And we're not "fucking morons" for saying so!

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

this is important

On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton’s romp in South Carolina increases her chances of wrapping up her party’s nomination in March.

The problem is that she is winning the nomination by capturing the African-American vote in states she is bound to lose in the general election.

No amount of turnout by minority voters in November is going to turn the solidly red states of South Carolina, Alabama, Oklahoma, Tennessee, or Texas into blue states, even though Clinton has won or is expected to win the primaries in these states with crushing margins.
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The problem for the Democrats is that Clinton’s prowess with minority voters won’t necessarily win her the big swing states that will push the Electoral College victory one way or the other — Pennsylvania, Ohio, Georgia, Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, Wisconsin and some smaller ones.

It is precisely here that Trump’s appeal to white blue collar voters could tip the scales and turn many of these states red in 2016.
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This is another problem for nominee Clinton in the general election. The youthful supporters who flock to Sanders rallies and chant his stump speech along with him are likely to simply drop back out of politics, no matter how loyally Sanders backs Clinton and exhorts them to vote for her. They won’t show up in November.

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