Afghan War will continue for many more decades

"President Obama responsibly ended the war in Iraq and will end the war in Afghanistan in 2014."
Sources: BarackObama.com

President Obama put withdrawal plans for Afghanistan on indefinite hold last fall, but most people don't realize what this means.

“What we’ve learned is that you can’t really leave,” said a senior Pentagon official with extensive experience in Afghanistan and Iraq who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe internal discussions. “The local forces need air support, intelligence and help with logistics. They are not going to be ready in three years or five years. You have to be there for a very long time.”

Things have gone very poorly in Afghanistan in recent years. Gen. John Campbell, the U.S.'s top commander in Afghanistan, recently testified that 2016 could be "no better and possibly worse than 2015". That's pretty bad, because 2015 had the highest number of civilian casualties since the United Nations began tracking civilian casualties in Afghanistan.
So how many decades are we looking at it until we can leave Afghanistan?

“The war in Afghanistan has morphed; it’s not about al-Qaeda anymore, and it’s not about the Taliban anymore. It’s about China; Russia – the soft underbelly which is mostly Muslim of Russia; about Pakistan; about Iran; about Syria; about Iraq; about whether a Kurdistan is stood up or not; and ultimately about oil, water and energy in general. And the US presence in Afghanistan, I’ll predict right now, will not go away for another half-century… And it will grow, it will not decrease.”

That doesn't sound like fighting terrorism. It sounds like a sickness. It sounds like The Great Game.
I'm pretty sure the American public didn't sign up for this.
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So why is the most unpopular war in American history never going to end, even after electing a president who promised to end it as recently as 2012? Why can't the Afghanis fight this war so we can leave?
There are three major reasons for this.

#1) There is this news story from today.

Defense Department officials are hopeful that by the end of this year they’ll be paying for salaries of only Afghan soldiers who actually exist...
Outside investigations have found that some of the salaries are going to individuals who don’t show up to work in remote areas of hard-to-reach provinces. Others have been killed but remain on the books, with supervisors pocketing the extra pay.
Still others exist only on paper to funnel money to local warlords.
Much of the $5 billion annual cost for Afghanistan's security forces comes from the United States,

That's billions of your tax dollars going to Afghani warlords every year, and an Afghan army that has been overestimated by at least 40%.
Yet this isn't the biggest problem facing Afghanistan.
The biggest problem involves American troops who are right now being deployed to the front lines in Helmand province.

#2) By far the biggest problem in Afghanistan is this.

But here in one of the few corners of Helmand Province that is peaceful and in firm government control, the green stalks and swollen bulbs of opium were growing thick and high within eyeshot of official buildings during the past poppy season — signs of a local narco-state administered directly by government officials.
In the district of Garmsir, poppy cultivation not only is tolerated, but is a source of money that the local government depends on. Officials have imposed a tax on farmers practically identical to the one the Taliban use in places they control.
More than ever, Afghan government officials have become directly involved in the opium trade, expanding their competition with the Taliban beyond politics and into a struggle for control of the drug traffic and revenue. At the local level, the fight itself can often look like a turf war between drug gangs, even as American troops are being pulled back into the battle on the government’s behalf, particularly in Helmand, in southern Afghanistan.

Let that one roll around in your mind for a bit.
Our American soldiers are fighting and dying in turf wars while defending drug lords. For some reason that never made it into the presidential debates. It barely gets mentioned in the news media either, as if it isn't important.
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The connections run deeply into the national government, officials acknowledge privately. In some cases, the money is passed up to senators or assembly members with regional connections. In others, employees in the Independent Directorate of Local Governance, the agency that oversees provincial and district governments, pocket the payoffs, officials said. Some of the most important regional police and security commanders, including allies of American military and intelligence officials, are closely identified with the opium trade.
More opium was cultivated in 2014, the last year of the NATO combat mission, than in any other year since the United Nations began keeping records in 2002.

Afghanistan produces 90% of the opium in the world, making it the biggest narco-state in history.
Meanwhile, the Centers for Disease Control warned of record-breaking numbers of heroin deaths in the United States, an issue that actually did make it into the presidential debates (while Afghanistan wasn't mentioned).
It's very hard to believe that these two issues aren't related.

As Abby Martin noted in a 2014 investigation for Media Roots, while the Taliban had all but eradicated opium, it began to thrive just months after American forces replaced the Taliban-led government in 2001.
“Circumstantial evidence aside, there is no conclusive proof that the CIA is physically running opium out of Afghanistan. However, it’s hard to believe that a region under full US military occupation – with guard posts and surveillance drones monitoring the mountains of Tora Bora – aren’t able to track supply routes of opium exported from the country’s various poppy farms (you know, the ones the US military are guarding).”

According to a January report from Mother Jones, the DEA agent formerly in charge of the agency’s efforts in Afghanistan reported repeated conflict between DEA eradication efforts and CIA agents:
“[Edward] Follis says the DEA and CIA often bumped heads in Afghanistan. … While hinting that the CIA sometimes turned a blind eye to the Afghan drug trade, Follis won’t get into specifics. In his book, [‘The Dark Art: My Undercover Life in Global Narco-Terrorism,’] he writes, ‘Almost everywhere in the world I worked, I had static with the CIA. We’re often working the same terrain, but with different legal and moral parameters … They exist completely in the shadows.’

#3) Finally, there is the most obvious reason for being in a never-ending war that the public doesn't want.

Loewenstein spent time in war-torn Afghanistan, as well as neighboring Pakistan, researching for “Disaster Capitalism.” His compelling recounting of his experiences paints a picture of a crisis-stricken world in which virtually everything has been privatized, in which private military companies, or PMCs — 21st-century warlords — exercise more control over countries than their own inhabitants.
A slew of Western multinational corporations quite familiar to Americans appear throughout the chapter, including Northrop Grumman, DynCorp, Halliburton and more.

As long as private military contractors can shower politicians with millions in campaign donations, there will always be artificial pressure to launch unnecessary wars.

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Heard the author of the book which had a lot of material that I had not heard about before,
Drugs as Weapons Against Us: The CIA's Murderous Targeting of SDS, Panthers, Hendrix, Lennon, Cobain, Tupac, and Other Leftists

by John Potash

Since the CIA has so much practice with using drugs to mold the US culture, we can send them into Afghanistan.

Wait.

Here in the US they were suppliers - giving drugs to Timothy Leary and rock bands and other stuff

(apologize that what I am saying is incoherent, I am just sitting here - what this article says is totally terrible with wide implications)

The war on drugs has become a world wide war and part of the failed war on terror as Afghanistan produces the poppies for the world

If Drugs were treated as a medical issue (I read about this approach 50 years ago) the marked for illegal drugs and all the money made and the crime that surrounds it (Mexico is already, or about to become a failed state over drugs) that would take the economic element out of the drug trade.

There was an article recently on TomDispatch that said right at the start of the war in Afghanistan, we won, but we kept pushing with military force, drones, military stuff, and that article said the taliban are now as strong as they were before 9/11. Well not sure about taliban since they stopped drug farming (as reported, not sure ) and now the "government" and war lords are benefiting for it.

Another article on TomDispatch said that the ISIS war is a civil war and it is time to treat it as such like the peace movement in the Vietnam war theme.

off to dinner

an article that there is progress in Pakistan

https://theintercept.com/2016/02/08/after-years-of-violence-pakistan-is-...

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Afghan war and the War OF Terror would last decades, perhaps the entire century, the "New American Century". There were the statements by Bush about "this Crusade lasting awhile", and generals on both sides of the pond saying it would take 20-30 years. People have to ask themselves, why does it take that long to defeat an "enemy", particularly one so ill equipped to fight a magnificent billion dollar full spectrum dominance military machine like the world has never seen. The answer is it doesn't, that's not what it's about.

But it's apparent few care. Very few. Even among those with the awareness of what's happening, there is simply little pushback against U.S. imperialism. Raising the minimum wage or futilely trying to change the health scare system to single payer resonate much more with most on the left than the continued murder and mayhem caused by our own government.

This is just another warning like the many we've had before that will go by in the night without causing as much as a ripple. Now with our "representatives" moving to crush the volunteer "army" concept, it can only get worse from here relative to an antiwar/anti-imperialist activity.

Maybe as a country we deserve to crash and burn for all the evil things "we've" done without any introspection whatsoever.

I've also said for some time that it's to the point where someone else has got to stop us, we won't stop ourselves. We're collectively incapable and unable to understand or seek the truth. Perhaps if Clinton wins the primary there could be some movement. There will not be if Sanders wins the primary, any antiwar/anti-imperialist sentiments will be held in abeyance in the effort to try to propel Sanders to the WH. But if it's Clinton vs. Trump, maybe we'd have a chance at it. Hard to say, the lies and propaganda are so systematic and effective it's hard to see it happening. This isn't an easily defined Vietnam war we have now or even an Iraq war, it's a full fledged assault on the planet from every angle. That can't be approached from an antiwar standpoint any longer, it has to be approached from an anti-imperialist standpoint similar to the late 1800's early 1900's.

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