Chaos In Vegas: It's Their Party And They'll Cheat If They Want To.
Probably a preview of what's in store for the Philadelphia Dem Convention.
From Bernie's FB page comments section.
Some of the problems in Nevada included:
1) The initial vote was taken 30 minutes prior to schedule and while delegates were still entering the building.
2) Requests for a re-vote were ignored.
3) Requests to review and acknowledge petitions were ignored.
4) Rule changes were passed without a majority.
5) 64 Sanders delegates were disqualified with very few given the chance to prove eligibility.
6) The convention was closed with a motion for a re-vote still on the table.
This link has an account of the chaos including some live videos. The 3rd video on the page is pretty good at showing the chaos. The video includes the LVPD Sheriff telling people "You all need to leave now. It is not safe here." But geezez, if the Sheriff is here with armed Deputies, why wouldn't it be safe for the public?! Oh wait, I get it now. 
Chaos At Nevada Democratic Convention; State Party Chair Flees Building As Sanders Supporters Demand Recount (with videos)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/05/15/chaos_at_nevada_democr...
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Governors are putting the National Guard
on speed-dial right now. Things are coming to a head. Calls out to state(s) police, too. If not this week, this summer for sure. Trump will inflame his side as well.
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If Trump is clever, he’ll now inject an air of magnanimity and
generous gesture into his act — to highlight the contrast with an authoritarian, “uptight” Hillary team.
When it comes to authoritarian fascism
Trump may look like he's on the path towards it, but the actions done by the DNC and Team Hillary make it look like they've beaten him to it.
Very, very OT but
I love your username. I'm a river lover, too; I grew up on and in the Olentangy River.
"When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained." - Mark Twain
Can't let democracy get in the way of the Democratic party.
There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties.. This...is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.--John Adams
Debbie Whatsername Schultz has already
admitted that super delegates are in place to prevent an upstart from being nominated for POTUS on the Democratic ticket. Now they're simply ratcheting it up to "scorched earth" tactics. Who cares about the aftermath, as long as Hillary gets the nomination? Gawd.
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
It feels like it did during the run-up to Dumyah's Iraq Invasion
No matter how many millions protested globally (I was one of them), the U.S. Media gave it all the back of the hand. They had been presented a tidy narrative, so facts and world opinion were simply going to be ignored. It is the same today: Hillary wants her nomination, so the media have been instructed to focus on Drumpf and ignore the guy who genuinely wants to solve the nation's problems and is drawing huge crowds as a result.
littlevoice
You got that right. Also the federally coordinated police
response to Occupy protesters on college campuses and other places.
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
Agree with both comments
and I'll add, because I'm old enough to remember: Kent State.
The Clintons will do anything, anything, to get this nomination. Their machine is huge, powerful, well funded. Tragic, so many are also dependent for their own "power" on making sure the Clintons succeed. IF they all win, we lose.
We can't let that happen.
Four dead in Ohio.
Gone but not forgotten.
Kent State
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qS1u53yzso
These folks should understand by now that
The People in their alleged Party have caught on. They are courting disaster with this cheating shit, they must cease doing this. I suggest melting down the phone lines of the DNC today, all day, and possibly even longer:
I'm having a running discussion with Armando
over at Kos, where the denial is so strong you can cut it with a knife, and diaries are making claims that no rules were broken in Nevada at that convention. If you go to his diary, you'll see how bad this is.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
Taking on Armando is perilous. He's dishonest, w
clipped and condescending responses.
Don't believe everything you think.
Heh
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whoa.... you're not kidding.
He's totally impervious to facts, no matter how many times they are presented and no matter what the medium/source.
I gave up.... however, a couple of people who dropped in may be rethinking their ideas of what actually happened, so not a complete waste of my time.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
Armando.
He's sometimes wrong.....but never in doubt.
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
honestly, i love you. eom
Don't believe everything you think.
Who could blame you?
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
must be Move the Goalposts Monday
Angela did a good job yesterday but a lot of those folks don't really care about democracy or justice much less simple truths. Its all about winning ... winning WHAT doesnt seem too important to them either.
technically...
since the state party gave all the power to the chair to create or break rules at will, no rules could be broken. It was clearly the intention of the state party several weeks ago to give enough power to the chair and the Hillary-packed 'credentials committee' to disallow as many Sanders delegates as needed for Hillary to win. There can be no other reason for the rules changes they pushed through, which essentially nullified the very reason for a convention by shutting-out the convention body from participating in any meaningful way.
Hopefully the Sanders camp or another group like Election Justice USA will get involved and sue to stop the certification of these results, given that the Sanders delegates were denied their right to be counted based on an unsubstantiated allegation that they didn't meet the Party membership or address confirmation requirements of the NV Dem Party.
We need to see if a judge will believe that these rules changes and their strict enforcement was anything but an excuse to deny democracy to Sanders supporters.
I have blocked 'that other site' in my anti-virus software, so effectively it no longer exists to me...
Can't go there
Never thought it could get that ugly
But it's really like going to the democratic version of red state these days
I don't remember things being this ugly since the 1960s
Orwell was an optimist
Naked Capitalism, a well-respected and widely read blog
has a post written by Yves that completely eviscerates the D actions in Nevada. Comments there are also very good (as usual) and more than one person has noted how toxic TOS has become. That is bad news for the CIA agent, because that blog has the ear of many insiders. Here's the link (gotta love the headline)
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/05/democratic-establishments-thuggis...
u wrote
lol. one of them being moi
Don't believe everything you think.
That's right! There is definitely some overlap between THEIR
intelligent and incisive commentariat and ours
An example of a magnificent comment on the thread there:
"aab
May 16, 2016 at 5:21 am
We ARE reaching out to each other. Sanders supporters communicating via social media are well aware of all this stuff. The problem is that the Democratic Party is a private club, essentially. I couldn’t read the piece above, because I was Twitter yesterday watching it unfold, and it’s upsetting. If Yves addressed this above, I apologize for commenting without reading, but I believe this would be, at best, a civil action. Bernie’s campaign simply can’t be expected to take this on and try to run at the same time. Based on the exit poll discrepancies, the Clinton campaign and Democratic machinery has stolen votes in almost EVERY primary state, and pulled stunts in most caucuses. That’s on top of all the voter suppression that they both actively did and passively benefited from when the Republicans did it in Republican controlled states. There is video evidence in Iowa, Nevada, Illinois and PA that I know of. I think there’s also video evidence in a couple of other states. Then there’s Bill Clinton’s clear polling place violations in MA, and the testimony of the sister of the developmentally impaired man whose entire group home (none of whom have IQs over age six) were told if they just checked the box they could eat at McDonalds. There’s numerical evidence in addition to the exit poll discrepancies in New York and other states. There is a lot of evidence.
What does it matter, if the Democratic Party, the party of the current sitting President, doesn’t care? Bernie’s supporters will have raised in the neighborhood of $200 million for the campaign. How much more would they have to raise to file lawsuits in all these states? How many judges would issue emergency orders in time to matter before the convention?
There are already reports of people being purged/switched from the rolls in KY, getting the wrong ballot, etc. I’m sure tomorrow there will be switched polls places, delayed hours, “broken” machines. There have been reports of weird stuff in Oregon, even. This nomination is already being stolen. Nevada isn’t even important in terms of the number of stolen delegates; it’s more because of how flagrant it is.
The major media located in New York was silent about what happened in New York. We have already seen how they intend to “BernieBro” up what happened in Nevada. With the media this complicit, what do you think the Sanders campaign or independent citizens can actually do?
The United States is not set up for this. As with so many other aspects of our governing system, a lot hinges on some combination of good behavior by those in power and the ability to con the populace into believing the system works differently than it actually does. Unless enough superdelegates recognize that they personally will be economically damaged by nominating Clinton and losing in November (and therefore having nothing to offer the banks and corporations for their money for all but a necessary few like Schumer), Clinton will be the Democratic nominee. And I’m sorry, I know I have been arguing about this on here with people who think I’m asking people to debase themselves, but I don’t see any feasible alternative to voting for Trump. I have no illusions that he will be a good President. But whether we can actually purge out the corporatists and take back the Democratic Party, or have to start a third party, the Democratic Party must be weakened for any sane alternative to take hold. This has been building for years. If the Clintons can do this openly and be rewarded, with her announcing Bill will oversee economic development from the White House WHILE CONTINUING TO RUN CGI, what recourse would we have? At that point, my greatest hope would be that the military would refuse President Hillary Clinton’s orders to fire on citizens protesting in the homeland, as much because they hate her as anything else. That’s not a theory I’d like to test. Does anyone really believe that Trump will deport more people or instigate more violence than what Obama is doing how or what Clinton is clearly longing to do?
This isn’t on Bernie Sanders to address. This is on all of us as a people."
This comment from NakedCapitalism re. Nevada
says it all....
We cannot allow her to steal this election- we must do whatever it takes to bojo her ass.
LOL! GMTA flowerfarmer!
It is just such a perfect comment
No fear- let's get it done!
Enough is definitely enough!
a thing of beaury
Don't believe everything you think.
Occupy the Voting Booths.
People thought protesting Bush/Cheney was bad.
Hillary will be worse.
"Love One Another" ~ George Harrison
Sanders delegates will probably want to adjust...
...their arrival times much earlier so this crap doesn't happen. don't trust the DNC timelines or procedure.
Due to the Demo issues- Trump could take Nevada in fall
Due to the BS of the Democratic establishments in Nevada and the fraud and suppression of voters will be remembered by the Bernie Sanders supporters. My guess is this might be enough to tip Nevada to Trump in the fall.
How stupid are the Hillary supporters and the establishment? You embrace and welcome discussion to build a better party- you do not suppress it because you do not agree with it.
KOS did the same fucking thing; the DNC establishment and elite do not like the pleasant voices speaking up, but too damn bad.
I did include a video that explains the issues, it is 10 minutes but well done and helps explain the entire situation.
Both parties
may soon die a quick death. To the benefit of all. Globalist corporations are not our friend.