the golden griffin shows up here and there in old germany... well meckelnburg has both the doofy ox AND a griffin [red though] trying to scare it. but no handcuffs.
spain may have had that ox but it seems they ate it.
the crown & cross turns up in various iterations but none have the crown with tiny golden vegetables -
which led me to a a "bad flags" site that has an ethiopian flag with an amazing chunk of broccoli in the center. and apparently belgium/brussels at one time celebrated its vegetable soul with a brussels sprout on its flag.
which quite honestly - cheered me up. so i thank you.
inescutcheon: per fess red over yellow (County of Schwerin);
field 1: on yellow a gold crowned black oxhead with white horn and red tongue (lesser arms of Mecklenburg);
field 2: in light blue a gold griffin (Rostock);
field 3: divided per fess Rostock and green with white border (Principality of Schwerin);
field 4: on red a white cross with gold crown (Ratzeburg);
field 5: on a red field a white arm (Stargard);
field 6: like Mecklenburg but oxhead is diagonal (Wenden).
Although this was the arms of both grand duchies, it was used as the Grand Duke's flag only in Mecklenburg-Schwerin. Mecklenburg-Strelitz used a different flag. In use from before 1870 until 1918.
I never saw a flag so grab-bag like. Like the king said this and that and those and them; then had the poor flag maker put everything and squeezed these pictograms into tiny spaces....
Again, I am thinking a Medieval Belgian monarchy flag - maybe a family flag...
You think that this flag is grab-bag, try this set of arms:
Quarterly: I and IV grand-quarterly i and iv great-grand-quarterly 1 and 4 gules a three towered castle Or masoned sable and ajouré azure (for Castile), 2 and 3 argent a lion rampant purpure crowned Or langued and armed gules (for Leon), ii per pale, dexter per fess, in chief Or four pallets gules (for Aragon), in base gules a cross, saltire, and orle of chains linked together Or and a centre point vert (for Navarre), sinister party per pale argent a cross potent and four crosslets Or impaling barry of eight gules and argent (for Naples), iii per pale, dexter per fess, in chief Or four pallets gules (for Aragon), in base gules a cross, saltire, and orle of chains linked together Or and a centre point vert (for Navarre), sinister per saltire, 1 and 4 Or four pallets gules, 2 and 3 argent an eagle displayed sable (for Sicily); II and III grand-quarterly, i gules a fess argent (for Austria), ii azure semy-de-lis Or a bordure compony argent and gules (new Burgundy), iii bendy of six Or and azure a bordure gules (old Burgundy), iv sable a lion rampant Or langued and armed gules (for Brabant), overall at the fess point of the quarter an inescutcheon Or a lion rampant sable armed and langued gules (for Flanders) impaling argent an eagle displayed gules, armed, beaked, and langued Or (for Tyrol); enté en point argent a pomegranate proper seeded gules, supported, sculpted and slipped vert (for Granada).
Supporters: A bicephalous eagle displayed sable imperially crowned proper in front of a saltire ragulée gules, the whole between two columns argent issuing from the sea proper in base, the one to dexter crowned imperially proper, the one to sinister crowned with the Royal Crown of Spain proper. The motto, PLVS VLTRA or PLVS OVLTRE, wraps around the columns.
I won't torment you with researching this one, however. It's the personal arms of Holy Roman Emperor Charles V (von Habsburg) (1500 - 1558). source for blazon and picture of arms
p.s. The Other Maven is correct about this week's flag.....
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All I can think is "Way too much stuff in that space! Was the Emperor drunk or something?!?"
No, just way too many crowns and coronets on one man's head -- a problem common with der Hof von Habsburg in Charles V's time. In fact, it was problematic enough that Charles left one major subset of his estate -- the Germano-Roman Empire -- to his brother, Ferdinand, and the other one, Spain, to his son, Philip.
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Did you sound out my online name? If not, you should.
I chose my online name as I am tired and not willing to cooperate with bullshit.
Maybe you may want to check out We The Deaf People and Deaf People United - these are the same organizations with two different branches. DPU is the lobbying org - along with rallies and other events. We The Deaf People is more of educational, non-profit type organization. DPU and WDP have chapters in most of the States - see if you can find a chapter in your state...
I am not a member of these two, but I am watching them to see where they can go and how much they can do.
I am active in Oregon Association of the Deaf and just applied to join Community Advisory Board (to help with Community Needs Assessment for Oregon Deaf Community, including DeafBlind, Deaf with Disabilities, Hard of Hearing, Late Deafened, Veterans with Hearing Loss, etc. etc.).
as well, but the changed spelling seemed less in someone's face than the true spelling underneath. It still kind of reads to me like you're saying that to everyone who reads you, not only to the bullshitters. But I will keep your explanations in mind and not take it personally. IRL, I am a member of the NAD, but will keep my eyes open for news of the others.
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I'm thinking Trump, the king of bulls, the lover of gold and
green, the guy who thinks he rules over the Bible, and probably thinks he can slay dragons. And in the center, red and yellow make orange!!
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I like the answer
Not right though.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
vexing
the golden griffin shows up here and there in old germany... well meckelnburg has both the doofy ox AND a griffin [red though] trying to scare it. but no handcuffs.
spain may have had that ox but it seems they ate it.
the crown & cross turns up in various iterations but none have the crown with tiny golden vegetables -
which led me to a a "bad flags" site that has an ethiopian flag with an amazing chunk of broccoli in the center. and apparently belgium/brussels at one time celebrated its vegetable soul with a brussels sprout on its flag.
which quite honestly - cheered me up. so i thank you.
There's some 'warmth' in your answer
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
According to "Flags of the World"
this is: Standard of the Grand Duke of Mecklenburg-Schwerin Ashore c.1897-1918 http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/de-mv_gd.html#gdf
The banner of arms of Mecklenburg:
inescutcheon: per fess red over yellow (County of Schwerin);
field 1: on yellow a gold crowned black oxhead with white horn and red tongue (lesser arms of Mecklenburg);
field 2: in light blue a gold griffin (Rostock);
field 3: divided per fess Rostock and green with white border (Principality of Schwerin);
field 4: on red a white cross with gold crown (Ratzeburg);
field 5: on a red field a white arm (Stargard);
field 6: like Mecklenburg but oxhead is diagonal (Wenden).
Although this was the arms of both grand duchies, it was used as the Grand Duke's flag only in Mecklenburg-Schwerin. Mecklenburg-Strelitz used a different flag. In use from before 1870 until 1918.
It would have hung in the throne room of: Frederick Francis IV, Grand Duke of Mecklenburg-Schwerin (Reign 10 April 1897 – 14 November 1918) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Francis_IV,_Grand_Duke_of_Meckle...
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
You are correct
It's the standard of the Grand Dukes of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, as opposed to the Grand Dukes of Mecklenburg-Strelitz.
Schwerin is a lovely little city. The Grand Ducal castle is quite something.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Belgian monarchy?
I never saw a flag so grab-bag like. Like the king said this and that and those and them; then had the poor flag maker put everything and squeezed these pictograms into tiny spaces....
Again, I am thinking a Medieval Belgian monarchy flag - maybe a family flag...
grab-bag heraldry
You think that this flag is grab-bag, try this set of arms:
I won't torment you with researching this one, however. It's the personal arms of Holy Roman Emperor Charles V (von Habsburg) (1500 - 1558). source for blazon and picture of arms
p.s. The Other Maven is correct about this week's flag.....
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Holy crap!
You are right! That is a real grab-bag heraldry....
All I can think is "Way too much stuff in that space! Was the Emperor drunk or something?!?"
way too much stuff in that space
No, just way too many crowns and coronets on one man's head -- a problem common with der Hof von Habsburg in Charles V's time. In fact, it was problematic enough that Charles left one major subset of his estate -- the Germano-Roman Empire -- to his brother, Ferdinand, and the other one, Spain, to his son, Philip.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
You realize some of us can read sign language, right?
Do you have something against the deaf?
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Something against deaf?
Nope. I am Deaf. Not just deaf - culturally Deaf.
Did you sound out my online name? If not, you should.
I chose my online name as I am tired and not willing to cooperate with bullshit.
Maybe you may want to check out We The Deaf People and Deaf People United - these are the same organizations with two different branches. DPU is the lobbying org - along with rallies and other events. We The Deaf People is more of educational, non-profit type organization. DPU and WDP have chapters in most of the States - see if you can find a chapter in your state...
I am not a member of these two, but I am watching them to see where they can go and how much they can do.
I am active in Oregon Association of the Deaf and just applied to join Community Advisory Board (to help with Community Needs Assessment for Oregon Deaf Community, including DeafBlind, Deaf with Disabilities, Hard of Hearing, Late Deafened, Veterans with Hearing Loss, etc. etc.).
Ah. Thank you for the explanation. I did read your online name
as well, but the changed spelling seemed less in someone's face than the true spelling underneath. It still kind of reads to me like you're saying that to everyone who reads you, not only to the bullshitters. But I will keep your explanations in mind and not take it personally. IRL, I am a member of the NAD, but will keep my eyes open for news of the others.
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