Open Thread - Wednesday June 3, 2015

As many of you already know, I enjoy watching birds come to my bird feeders. I maintain two hanging seed feeders, two pole feeders, and one hummingbird feeder. My two hanging feeders are suspended from the eaves of my house. To fill them, I must lower them to the ground via the lines that suspend them. Generally, these feeders are relatively secure from the squirrels. For a squirrel to raid either of them, it must make a major leap from a nearby tree. Squirrels do try, but usually are rewarded with a nice fifteen foot fall to the ground.

Because the hanging feeders are relatively secure from the squirrels, I use a high quality seed mix that also contains dried fruit and peanuts in it. While more expensive, the high quality mix has little waste because all the seeds in it are attractive to the birds that come to my feeders, so very little is tossed out. Peanuts are very important because the titmice, nuthatches, and woodpeckers love the peanuts.

Recently, a young squirrel has figured out how to make the leap to the feeders and has drained the seed from one of them. He is so brazen that even though I am only two feet away on the other side of the window, he ignores my pounding on the window pane.

My two pole feeders were intended for birds such as towhees, song sparrows, and mourning doves that usually feed off the ground. However, once the squirrels discovered them, they became mostly squirrel feeders. For that reason, I use a basic all purpose seed mix in them. I had been filling these feeders less often due to the squirrel raids, but since super squirrel has figured out how to make the leap to the hanging feeders, I decided to use the pole feeders as squirrel feeders in hopes that he will go there instead.

Recently I saw this tee shirt. Sometimes, this is exactly how I feel. Lol
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There is a diary up about this on dkos, but I also saw it in the Guardian.

The Counted
People killed by police in the US
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counte...

They have an analysis by race and a wall with all of the names. It has a link to send in people they've missed.

They also have a facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/TheCounted
And a Twitter account @thecounted

What would we do without Al Jazeera and the Guardian?

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One of the most disturbing things about police killing civilians in the US is that there are no really accurate figures because the police departments are not required to report said killings.

Thank you for the links. I am going to read the Guardian article now. Smile

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Yes, the Washington Post is also trying to keep track like The Guardian. But, the post currently has, IIRC, 400 killings and The Guardian has 470. Someone commented that the Post is only counting shooting deaths. I am not sure and haven't read through both sites yet.

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obama (like his predecessors) refuses to make the snouts report.

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Excuse me too, please. Like the squirrel says, my brain feeder is empty today, and I have to make some jumps through the emotional hoops to post something meaningful. So all I come up with is to wish you all a good day and to thank you for your writing commitments.
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Wow, gulfgal, all those feeders, and I currently have none. Your yard is a bird paradise. You are making me think I should get myself in gear. I have a small place and small yard, and don't really have a good spot away from squirrels for regular feeders, but I usually put a hummingbird feeder on the front porch.

This year I didn't put it up, really just due to not wanting the hassle right now. It's a shame it began to feel like a hassle instead of interesting and fun. Can you believe it, I just had too many hummingbirds. During the height of their visits, I had to refill the feeder often every day, and at least every other day! It's a pretty big, normal size, feeder with 4 spouts.

For awhile each time I had to drag a step ladder to the porch to reach the feeder. Then, I got smart and put a big S hook on the hook and hung the feeder on the bottom part of the S. The S is about 8 inches long, so I could then reach the feeder it without a ladder. Still everyday, washing and refilling was too much, and I would feel bad for the h-birds and guilty if it was empty, so I often did it when I didn't really have time, or didn't feel like it - - thus it becoming not fun anymore.

I have some Agastache Sunset Hyssop plants and hummingbirds LOVE them. So, I am hoping to attract some without the feeder. They sure came to them last year, but I also had the feeder right nearby. They have not bloomed yet, but look good and healthy. I also have 2 Orange Carpet Trumpet plants, also called Hummingbird Trumpets, so hummingbirds are supposed to love them too. This is the first year for them, so we'll see how they do at attracting. These plants are all in front of the front porch.

Maybe I can enjoy the hummers without the feeder. That will be nice. And, maybe next year or later I will try it again.

PS - Good morning, everybody. Hope all is well with everyone. We have sun!

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if squirrels are a higher life form or simply aliens from another planet. I know one thing. There is no such thing as a squirrel proof bird feeder.

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she took a standard home-center-bought 7 foot stake feeder and put it through a 4" pvc pipe into the ground. the squirrels can't jump 5.5-6 feet to get to the feeder and their feet can't get any purchase on the pvc pipe. they have to scurry around on the ground to pick up the seeds that drop from the feeder when the birds eat and watch out for the dogs and the occasional feral cat that cruises the yard.

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a photo of this contraption. It is hard to believe that any bird feeder is squirrel proof, even one with metal baffles. If you get the chance, please post a photo. Smile

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living in the sticks I'm an expert on birds and the squirrel/bird feeder nexus. We have a feeder that is suspended from a tree limb by a chain, there is a length of pvc pipe that covers the chain. About a foot above the feeder is a large plastic cone/hood that prevents the squirrels from reaching the feeder if they make it down the pvc pipe, its large enough that they slip off trying to make it to the feeder. It's worked well so far.

It's fun watching the squirrels sprint across the open area, like open yards, from tree to tree. There's foxes, hawks and owls that are a constant threat when they are out in the open. They run like hell, death from the skies, heh!

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Wow! That is quite a contraption! While I am not happy about the squirrels raiding my feeders, I just want to see all the of creatures get their fair share. Wink

We have some unique squirrels around here and even have a festival that celebrates them. Perhaps I probably should write an OT about them.

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I can hardly wait to watch it again!

So, thanks for posting it.

[I thought that I had bookmarked it, but couldn't find it, when I looked for it several months later.]

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I wish I could find the 1/2 hour special where they test squirrel proof feeders. The bottom line was that there are no squirrel proof feeders.

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and could really use one of those hilarious T-Shirts, LOL! (pretty color, too)

It would really be fitting--we're going through between 70-80 pounds of seeds per week, now. I'll be back later to get advice on how to get rid of (meaning just discourage from camping here) a huge flock of black birds with very yellow bills/beaks (and with either brownish or aqua-colored casts to their heads). Haven't had a chance to see if I can figure out what bird they are, but they sure do eat a lot!

We now have five 'resident' rabbits (Yeah! Love 'em), more birds than I can count, but sadly a very diminished Cardinal Family, the Jays, a gorgeous Woodpecker, Mourning Doves, Nuthatches, Robins, Crows, Goldfinches, Starlings, Wrens, Sparrows, and other varieties that I'm not sure of--like the odd-looking blackbirds, and, of course--squirrels, and more squirrels!!!!

Have seen people use the remedies that Joe and JTC described. We've got a couple of squirrel-proof feeders that we bought at Lowe's Home Center. Bottom line, the ledges are weighted--so that the doors close if anything heavier than a typical bird lands on them. Don't remember what they are called, exactly.

Anyhoo, greatly enjoy your bird essays--thanks!

Mollie


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Not including what the squirrels eat, I go through about 5-8 lbs of seed a week. If the squirrels could get to all my feeders, it would easily be two to three times that much.

As to the blackish birds with the yellow bills, I suspect they are some type of starlings. http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/european_starling/id Definitely not one of my favorites because they descend in huge flocks and are very aggressive toward other birds.

I have all the birds you do, but of course the robins do not come to the feeders. I have two types of woodpeckers that come. The very small downy woodpeckers always come regularly and this year a beautiful male red bellied woodpecker is coming regularly. He is the biggest bird to use the hanging feeders, but he is incredibly agile and graceful, not at all awkward like the blue jays and the cat birds. My single greatest thrill was when I saw a male indigo bunting last year. It was my first time to see one. Spectacular color!

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the light, as to the irisdescent coloring of their head, in particular.

And they are very aggressive. They even boss around our resident Jays! Occasionally, I intervene when I see them getting too carried away.

(I carry a cane when I walk 'the B,' in case I get out of the fenced area, and need protection from a stray animal that is threatening. So, if those Blackbirds get too hateful, I swing it and momentarily run them off, so that the other birds can get some food without being intimidated.)

It is really distressing to me that they so heavily infiltrate the the feeding area, because they have all but run off the regular 'dusk feeding' of what's left of our little Cardinal Family. IOW, the Cardinals are still here, but they straggle in throughout the day in two's or three's, and rarely show up as a full family unit in the evenings--unless it's almost dark, and those dastardly blackbirds have left for the evening.

(The European Starlings usually leave by about 7:00 p.m., and as a flock, fly due east. We do have another bird that appears to be a type of Starling by pictures, but they share little in common with the European type of starling that you've found.)

The reason that we can go through so much is that we also 'ground feed.' However, several feral cats have cropped up, so we're going to get more posts, and go to mostly hanging feeders.

I'm sure that the volume will cut back once we do this. I also put out a large bowl--literally a cheap plastic cereal bowl [I bought 4 bowls, and used them for chips, etc., until I discovered that they perfectly fit this feeder holder] which has a holder, on one of our suet poles. They "love" this bowl! So, I'll let 'em keep it.

The rabbits also eat here regularly, even some in the day when it's warm weather, and they like the country mix of bird seed that we buy at Tractor Supply (huge bags for economy)--with wheat, barley, oats, corn, and sunflower seeds-- along with some rabbit food (Timothy Hay, etc.).

They can occasionally be spooked by some family members, but they just yawn when it's just me and "Mister B"--they see us so much, we're just like a bird, I suppose.

Again, I look forward to hearing more of your backyard 'exploits.' Our backyard critters definitely give us a lot of pleasure--even if I do gripe about them, from time to time.

Mollie


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if the blackbirds with iridescent heads are the size of small crows they are probably grackles. They are crap birds and hogs at the feeding trough. Google it, they are a very common bird.

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I do not believe that they have yellow bills and European starlings do. Equally obnoxious birds, grackles and starlings. Wink

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now you're just being a troll, you know I'm right! I've never been wrong in my whole life! Wait a minute, I'll put my wife on here and she'll tell you how often I'm wrong, er, I mean I'm never right, oh, never mind, just take my word for it! Biggrin

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... and there is nobody there to hear him. Is he still wrong?

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Grackles, and compare the photos.

I'm heading to the feeding areas now--right before I take 'the B' out.

I'll let you know the final verdict, LOL, if I can figure it out.

Wink

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looks like crow might be on the menu for dinner again tonight.

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we've been invaded by two types of blackbirds--probably Brown-headed Cowbirds and European Starlings.

Now, that is not to say that we have no Grackles at all, JtC--Mr M is certain that he's seen some here, on occasion.

But, below are the pictures--as best I can make out--of the two types of blackbirds which are frequenting our property in almost alarming numbers, lately.

European Starling

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The spring/summer feathers are solid black, and I couldn't find a representative picture, only a video--but this winter photo is close, minus the white specks.

and,

Brown-headed Cowbird

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I did read that a "grape fogger" can be safely used to get rid of Starling flocks. Of course, I guess that is only/mostly for industrial use.

If anyone has seen this (grape) product in small non-aerosol canisters/containers, please let me know. Thanks!

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are probably my least favorite birds even though they are somewhat pretty to look at. The reason I dislike them is that they are parasitic birds who lay their eggs in other birds nests. When the young hatch they take away food from the other nestlings.

Mollie, I have never heard of a grape fogger. Unknw

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