Howard Dean has advice for LOSER Bernie Sanders on Daily Show
Thanks, Trevor Noah, for (not) acknowledging that Howard Dean is a SURROGATE for Hillary Clinton:
Dean endorsed Clinton in December, snubbing Sanders, who is currently mounting an insurgent presidential bid similar to one Dean ran 11 years ago. And Dean appears to be stepping up his work for the former secretary of state’s campaign as the threat from Sanders becomes more real.
Here's some of what's said in the Howard Dean segment:
Trevor Noah:
If you were to put yourself in Bernie Sanders' shoes, what do you think is going through his mind right now?Howard Dean:
It's very tough for him right now, because, uh, I went through this, and, eh, you know, he hasn't done well, and he probably knows in his heart that he's not going to get enough delegates, and it's, uh, tough because, he's got all these people believing him and all this time. The hardest thing about losing is not your own loss, it's the people who've believed in you's loss...
New topic - an angle I haven't heard reported:
Trevor Noah:
When we talk about the delegates... and You, you are a superdelegate. What powers do you possess?Howard Dean:
Uh, not, not that many. The real reason that superdelegates were invented is not to cook the books, it was because when we didn't have them, none of the office-holders would come to the convention... On the Democratic side, you have to run a campaign to get to the convention, and there was no elected official who wanted to run against theirs own activists, they just wouldn't show up. So in order to get them to show up, we told them they could just come essentially without running. Never in the history of the Democratic party since we've had superdelegates ever been a race which was decided by superdelegates. And I'm pretty sure the superdelegates will vote for whomever has the most pledged delegates.
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Earlier in the week, Dean suggested (and then dialed back) that it's time for Bernie to drop out:
Hey Trevor, your predecessor would have pointed out that Dean's been campaigning for Bernie's opponent...
Disclaimer: Regular readers are aware that I maintain Bernie will win the Democratic nomination - he's a WINNER in my book..
Comments
Honestly, John Oliver is far better than Noah...
And I can only imagine how Oliver would have handled this.
"You're LYING, Howard! You're changing your position more than your underwear, and you're not even bothering to put in the spin cycle! And now here's a picture of a rabid honey badger, which probably will show more emotion to this attack than you will."
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Comedy Central screwed up when they snubbed Samantha Bee.
Trevor Noah just lacks the talent to carry a show like the Daily Show.
exactly!!! nt
"Love One Another" ~ George Harrison
I wouldn't say he lacks talent.
He's a pleasant enough guy and fairly likable and amusing. What he lacks is a fire in his belly to expose liars and hypocrites. He just wants to entertain and be liked. He won't ask tough, probing questions that a guest would find difficult or offensive. Ironically, it makes him come across as rather milquetoast and less funny and likable than if he had an edge to his style like Jon Stewart.
I agree that John Oliver and Samantha Bee are both far better because they are edgy. I also think that the correspondents and the writers behind Trevor are as weak as they've been in my memory. The Nightly Show scripted bits can be silly and hit and miss, but I find myself watching it more often than The Daily Show. At least the panel discussions are more interesting on average than Trevor Noah's interviews.
Trevor missed his chance to ask Dean why
as a super delegate he is voting for Hillary, when his state voted for Bernie by 90% margin.
In fact, people on twitter asked Dean that and he basically replied "I'm not elected by the people. I'll vote for who ever I feel is best for the country".
Agreed Trevor needs to step up his game and ask controversial questions or he'll be gone. I stopped watching the DS soon after Stewart left. It's lost it's edge to put power in its place.
Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.
Sam Bee is SOOO in the tank for Hillary, becuz "feminism"!!
Have you guys not watched her show lately?
http://tvline.com/2016/04/19/samantha-bee-bernie-sanders-bros-full-front...
http://theweek.com/speedreads/619855/samantha-bees-full-frontal-doubleed...
Yeah. I noticed that the few couple shows
It is disheartening to see Samantha falling for the "First woman president" reason to elect a sociopath.
She also was making excuses for the Dem super delegate system, essentially saying look at the repub candidates, that's what will happen without super delegates. Now it is looking like a defense of Hellery.
Sad to see her fall like this. But it is what it is.
Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.
Yep
It is sad. On the other hand, her takedown of John Kasich last week was friggin brilliant.
EEK, no I hadn't see that. Thanks nt
"Love One Another" ~ George Harrison
I don't think Samantha Bee likes Bernie very much.
She said she was insulted when he 'shooshed' Hillary at a debate because women get told to shut up by men all their lives. I turned off the radio at that point. I guess she thinks women can be RUDE and interruptive and not get called on it.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
While Oliver still has a great edge on certain subjects
It is obvious his marriage to a veteran has changed a lot of his commentary, and not for the better. I've found myself screaming at him almost every show for some idiotic propaganda. sigh
Howard Dean does not seem to understand delegate math
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Could it be sour grapes?
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
Dean pretends to not understand delegate math... n/t
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
He's such a scream...
" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "
Hmm...
When it comes to losing, Howard Dean (a former Markos employer) might want to look in the mirror.
How many delegates did he win?
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Yep. Howard Dean is a very, very
poor comparison to Bernie. What exactly did he achieve as a candidate?
"The real power is in the hands of small groups of people and I don't think they have titles. -- Bob Dylan"
He dropped out in February, 2004...
...so, as a candidate, nothing. As head of the DNC he engineered the takeover of the House of Representatives in 2006, a dreaded midterm election that Democrats won in a wave (putting to shame the myth that Dems can't win midterm elections. The truth is that they can't win midterm elections when Dems run a bunch of establishment-beholden, Republican't Lite candidates.) Now, being a wholly-owned subsidiary of Wall Street, Inc, he is a major disappointment...
I want my two dollars!
He's a buddy of Karl Rove
never liked Dean. Fuck him.
Samantha Bee should be hosting the Daily Show anyways.
"Love One Another" ~ George Harrison
DWS made a complete ass of herself
explaining superdelegates, so Dean used argle bargle to further explain that it is not to subvert the will of the people...oh, no...it is for elected officials being able to vote against the will of THEIR people.
Well, fuck this shit.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Funny. Couple months ago they were saying
superdelegates were created specifically so an "unacceptable" candidate didn't win the nomination. Weren't they created in the aftermath of Sen. McGovern's loss?
(And no, I never considered McGovern unacceptable.)
"The real power is in the hands of small groups of people and I don't think they have titles. -- Bob Dylan"
I heard they were created in the 80s
McGovern is the excuse, but I don't think he lost worse than Mondale did. They just like to jump on McGovern to give credence to their "See, liberals can't win!" argument. McGovern was worth more than today's entire Democratic Party.
Twain Disciple
loving the term "argle bargle" :D nt
"Love One Another" ~ George Harrison
And here I thought his advice
would be to sell out everything you claimed to stand for and take a job as a lobbyist.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
Howard Dean the Non-Lobbyist
The Intercept published an interesting article about Howie a couple of months back, which included an angry tweet from Dean reacting to an earlier Intercept piece: Lee Fang [writer] is the Tucker Carlson of the left. I continue to support single pay or [sic] and I do not Lobby.
This appears to be Governor Dean's "I'm not a crook" moment, given (as the article points out) that even though he's not officially registered as a lobbyist, he nonetheless engages in virtually all of the activities that generally define lobbying. This, it turns out, is standard operating procedure for influence peddlers seeking to evade the laughably lax and rarely enforced disclosure laws aimed at lobbyists.
At any rate, the article is a worthwhile read. Really makes clear the scope and depth of Dean's sleaziness, which of course makes him a perfect surrogate for Lady $hillary.
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Dean: The Ultimate Turncoat
Of all the has-beens willing to fall on their swords for crumbs from Hillary, Dean was the last person on earth I thought would do it. From the same state as Bernie, yet. Backs up my theory that most people are corruptible. That is why Bernie is so inspiring.
I'm pretty sure I read that Sanders and Dean
only tolerate one another. I don't know the background. Also, I don't see where he gets off even talking about what to tell those who supported him. He won Vermont. That was it. And that was after he had already dropped out. So what killed his campaign? Was it the scream (chicken) or the fact that he came in third in Iowa (egg)?
And here's a bit of info that might not have reached the general public. My daughter was paid staff, running the local office for Dean. Shortly before the Iowa caucus, everyone in the campaign was told that they wouldn't be paid that week. That was reversed a day or two later. Don't know what happened. But clearly remember the constant fundraising.
Where Dean has ended up after chairing the DNC is very disappointing!! It makes me sad.
They probably don't get along
because Sanders is what Dean always wanted to be ... but failed.
"The real power is in the hands of small groups of people and I don't think they have titles. -- Bob Dylan"
McGovern. is a bad example
Because times have changed. At the time McGovern ran the country was moving right. Now it's moving in the opposite direction.
It is a faulty logic to base all decisions on only the past. Good navigation comes from where you have been, where you are now and where you want to end up.
They appear to be trying to stagnate things. No one in their right mind can think, for one instance, that the ACA can not be improved on. We are not somehow insulting Pres. Obama by making improvements. But that's the way they want us to think.
I will tell you this the forecast for my industry currently is 2 years of contraction. This is the industry that generally falls off the economic cliff first and is the first to recover when things pick up. The general economy follows. This is not good news.
Plus McGovern was running against a sitting President.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
"McGovern" is a red herring
as is "Nader". Might as well say "hey, Mondale got beaten soundly, better not nominate any former Senators". Or "Dukakis lost to Poppy Bush. We better not nominate any people of Greek descent (or Governors)". Or "Adlai Stevenson lost twice to Ike. Better not nominate anyone who's smart!" I think they do say that last one.
Indeed they do, Shahryar, indeed they do.
Dean is such a sellout.
Dean is such a sellout.
Howard Dean and Bernie have never been
more than cordial. I have lived in VT for over 25 years. Hoho was a fiscal conservative and social liberal as Governor. Bernie was and is too far to the left for him. I couldn't stop shaking my head when Howard ran for Pres and he was criticized for being "socialist". Anyone who said that should have been laughed out of the media, but this is Amurika after all.
Howard is about as good as you can expect from the Democratic party. Nice guy, intelligent, not totally insane, but pretty much loves the status quo. In spite of his positioning himself as a firebrand liberal (No Iraq War and Single payer), he ain't no revolutionary and fits right in with the Hilde-beast bunch.