What happened In New York?

Submitted by MsGrin on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 9:22am

I don't have any answers, this is just a collection of interesting information floating about this morning trying to make sense of what transpired:

Democracy Now! video

From ThinkProgress:

Ocasio-Cortez was later told by her local Board of Elections that her party affiliation was changed during Hurricane Sandy. The devastating storm hit right before Election Day 2012, and in an emergency measure, Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) allowed New York residents to vote at any precinct via affidavit ballot. Ocasio-Cortez was stuck in New York City for the storm, so she voted there instead of in Westchester.
“Apparently when I signed that affidavit my party affiliation was waived,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote. “I had no idea I was losing my party status when I did that… Had I known this was the case I would have fixed this ages ago.”

Hat Tip to stevej for this: here is the letter (pdf) from New York City Comptroller, Steve Striker. This describes the issue but is not from the letter specifically:

“There is nothing more sacred in our nation than the right to vote, yet election after election, reports come in of people who were inexplicably purged from the polls, told to vote at the wrong location or unable to get in to their polling site,” Comptroller Stringer said. “The people of New York City have lost confidence that the Board of Elections can effectively administer elections and we intend to find out why the BOE is so consistently disorganized, chaotic and inefficient. With four elections in New York City in 2016 alone, we don’t have a moment to spare.” - See more at: http://comptroller.nyc.gov/newsroom/amid-widespread-reports-of-voter-dis... link

The Guardian New York primary results: track the votes
Interactive map

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Muse Uprising Bernie Sanders Edition

I read this on FB (but have not counted, myself): "Obama lost NY in 08. He only won a single county. Bernie won 50 of the 62 NY counties."

There's an article at TOP on this topic http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/19/1517732/-Hillary-s-Win-May-Not-B...
Here are some of the links:

Twice As Many Brooklyn Democrats Were Removed From Voter Rolls Than Initially Thought
http://gothamist.com/2016/04/19/twice_as_many_brooklyn_democrats_we.php

New York Voters Report Irregularities at Poll Sites (WSJ - needs supscription)
http://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-voters-report-irregularities-at-pol...

Voting Problems Plague High-Stakes Primary Day in New York
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/04/19/voting-problems-plague-high-...

It’s NYC’s first relevant primary in decades, and the polls are a mess
http://nypost.com/2016/04/19/brooklyn-voters-fume-after-being-shut-out-o...

Millions of New Yorkers Disenfranchised from Primaries Thanks to State's Restrictive Voting Laws
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/4/19/millions_of_new_yorkers_disenfranc...

Email from the campaign this morning:

When we started this campaign, I emailed my supporters and said, "This campaign is not about Bernie Sanders. It's about a grassroots movement of Americans standing up and saying: 'Enough is enough. This country and our government belong to all of us, not just a handful of billionaires.'"

I believe that now more than ever.

We still have a path to the nomination, and our plan is to win the pledged delegates in this primary. Next week five states vote, and there are A LOT of delegates up for grabs. I am going to keep fighting for every vote, for every delegate, because each is a statement of support for the values we share.

Hat Tip JuliaW: Statement from the Green Party of NY on “Open” Primaries Lawsuit and Need for Democratic Reform
http://www.gpny.org/statement_from_the_green_party_of_ny_on_open_primari...

CNN on the lawsuit - has video: http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/19/politics/new-york-primary-voter-problem-po...

Vote not yet certified: http://www.inquisitr.com/3015960/provisional-ballots-poised-to-rock-the-...

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Submitted by Martha Pearce-Smith on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 10:25am

Apparently Breaking News from an ABC affiliate

~~via Huffington Post:~~

~~The Fix Is In: Sanders Supporters in New York See Votes Switched to Hillary~~

EDITED to make correction. I fell for a hoax. Sorry.
http://www.snopes.com/votes-switched-sanders-clinton/

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Submitted by Mister Pants on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 9:51am

This is a hoax

Check out the domain -- "huffingtonpost.com.co" -- and Snopes verifies it's fake. http://www.snopes.com/votes-switched-sanders-clinton/

Submitted by Martha Pearce-Smith on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 10:20am

Whoops.... I fell for it...

off to make corrections.

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Submitted by Deja on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 12:55pm

Look @ weird author info at Snopes hoax page

It says,

Kim LaCapria is a New York-based content manager and longtime snopes.com message board participant. Although she was investigated and found to be "probably false" by snopes.com in early 2002, Kim later began writing for the site due to an executive order unilaterally passed by President Obama during a secret, late-night session (without the approval of Congress). Click like and share if you think this is an egregious example of legislative overreach.

Submitted by detroitmechworks on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 1:37pm

Oh, the same author who had an article...

which seems to have disappeared from Snopes about how the passive electioneering laws enforcement was "Mostly False" even though her quoted article stated that anybody wearing a Bernie shirt would not be allowed to vote unless they changed...

Yeah, that kinda had to go away after Hillary ACTIVELY electioneered.

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Submitted by detroitmechworks on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 9:38am

What happened was that Hillary saw her chance...

at making the votes come out her way by fraud and took it without shame or regret. The Democratic party has firmly embraced their installation of corporate choice upon the process and doesn't give a fuck what you think.

We should be seeing prosecutions at the highest level for this election. At this rate though, we'll be lucky if we get one sacrificial intern.

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Submitted by MsGrin on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 9:48am

And her supporters are modeling this behavior & justify it

I hate it! This is not democracy.

If there were observers for this election, it would be invalidated.

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Submitted by Ethical Individ... on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 12:12pm

How does a 4% exit poll race

How does a 4% exit poll race turn into a 15 point blowout? That sounds like fraud.

Submitted by MsGrin on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 12:25pm

Also, Rachel kept running clips of Bernie saying he'd win

-she had a long string of them over a series of days- and she pointed out that he was unlikely to raise expectations unless their internal polling really did show him winning. But then they left NY before polls closed. So, I'd like to know what the fly on the wall at where the campaign folks were heard yesterday.

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Submitted by fugwb on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 10:16am

Robert Reich

on Facebook:

"So far, no mainstream media article I’ve read about yesterday’s New York primary mentions that independents weren’t allowed to vote in it. Yet 42 percent of American voters are now independent, and only 29 percent are registered Democrats (26 percent are registered Republicans), and we can assume a similar distribution in New York. A significant portion of Bernie’s supporters across the nation are independent – for the obvious reason that Bernie’s candidacy takes on the establishment. In addition, most young voters are independent. Independents gave Bernie huge victories in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Washington, for example. And independents obviously will play a large role in any presidential election.

The inclusion of superdelegates and exclusion of independents from many Democratic primaries makes the Democratic Party far less democratic than many assumed. This is the prerogative of the Party, of course. But the mainstream media have a responsibility to let people know, for the purpose of assessing the significance of a given primary outcome. What do you think?"

Can you imagine how bad clinton would have been beat if fucking new york had allowed people to just exercise their rights and vote!!!!!

Submitted by Timmethy2.0 on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 12:22pm

Since the two establishment parties have made it impossible

for the real will of the voters to ever be expressed, the voting restrictions become an issue that transcends party boundaries. For us to be a democracy we need open primaries run by non-partisan, citizen and government organizations.

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Submitted by Pariah Dog on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 2:55pm

Okay, question

I keep seeing something about New York having the earliest change-of-party deadline in the country.

If that means what I think it means, I beg to differ. I'm in Ohio and have voted in many a primary. When you walk up to the table here, you are asked which ballot you want. I of course always ask for a Democratic ballot. BUT, if I wanted to, I could ask for a Republican ballot and get one just as easily.

I quote from this site: https://votesmart.org/elections/voter-registration/OH#.VxfdM0_DyvE

Party Affiliation: Under Ohio election law, you declare your political affiliation by requesting the ballot of a political party in a partisan primary election. If you do not desire to affiliate with a political party in Ohio, you are considered to be an unaffiliated voter and may vote the Official Questions & Issues Ballot, if there is one for your precinct at the election.

This isn't the way it's done elsewhere? If you want to vote for the other party elsewhere, you have to fill out paperwork ahead of time?

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Submitted by Tommymac on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 3:03pm

NY changes had to be done 180 days prior - by 10/9/2015

It is the longest buffer period in the Nation to switch party affiliation - as you said in Ohio for example, you can do it the same day. Pennsylvania is 30 Days prior cutoff.

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Submitted by Pariah Dog on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 8:10pm

I never realized this

I'm not a newbie voter, been at it since 1972 and never missed one yet. But, as I said elsewhere, I've never paid this much attention to the primaries before. I've been getting a real education this time around.

I've always heard people talking about being "registered" Democrats or Republicans, and I was dimly aware that it must be different here. I'm just a registered voter. The only time my party affiliation matters is on primary day. So, no offense to the states who do it differently, but this stuff sounds like bullshit.

I'm in what's billed as a pretty red county. Actually the vast majority of people here call themselves independents - although they tend to lean right. Every primary the lady at the polls and I have a little game. She looks at my name in the book and says "Still voting Democrat?" and I say "Yes ma'am!" She smiles and shakes her head.

I'm wondering if I'll say yes ma'am next time.

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Submitted by riverlover on Thu, 04/21/2016 - 6:55am

I still would...

but you have to cultivate that ironic smile.

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Submitted by Cachola on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 3:36pm

Nope. In New York they have closed primaries

In New York you can only vote for the party you are registered with. You walk up to the table, state your address, they tell you your name and party affiliation (hee, hee, at least in my precinct they do), you sign under your already registered signature and they hand you the proper ballot. That is why it was such a big deal for people to have their party affiliation changed.

I think your experience is what happens in open primaries.

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Submitted by riverlover on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 5:55pm

Yes, in my Ithaca polling location (only Obama county)

walking in to vote, there is a D table and an R table. You state Party and the nice ladies look in a signatory book for your name. If there, whee!

That is a closed primary. one must state their Party out loud in a room before getting a ballot. So much for the secret part of voting.

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Submitted by MsGrin on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 4:25pm

The way it happens in Texas

We show up at what's called a 'joint primary' and are checked in as being registered as a voter with the county.

We are then asked which party's ballot we would like. Those parties then consider us a member until 12/31 of the current calendar year.

With a few exceptions, registration (or change of registration) must be received by the county a month prior to the election, although there are provisions for a limited ballot should one fail to do so.

The counties deputize citizens to become Volunteer Deputy Registrars to help get people registered (requires a two-hour training and swearing an oath to uphold the law).

Our voter ID laws are in flux - until a few years ago, there was no photo ID requirement. Then after the Republicans got a super majority in both chambers, we got a photo ID law because their followers are dying off. As an added bonus, we got gerrymandering out the kazoo. SCOTUS overturned our photo ID law, however, we're still operating under it because they have not told us what to do instead.

We do our state legislature here by feeding frenzy - they meet in alternate years from the middle of Jan until the middle of May. You think other states have sausage-making? You should see how things go down here. There literally is no time to get all the things attended to which must be attended to, and because the clock is always ticking, it becomes clear that a small number of bills introduced will be what get passed. So EVERYTHING else which is falling off the dockets tries to get tacked on as amendments to what is going through. I grew up in California where we have a professional class of legislators. They don't believe in that here, so this is what we get instead. That said, I have participated substantially more here and have had more access than I ever did when I was in California...

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Submitted by Pariah Dog on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 8:26pm

So what happens in the general election?

If you declare as Democrat in the primary and are considered a registered Democrat until December 31 of that year, does that mean you get a ballot with just Democrats on it in November?

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Submitted by MsGrin on Thu, 04/21/2016 - 10:16am

Everybody gets the same ballot in the general

...and one may do with it what one pleases.

I see how the 'until the end of the year' thing may be confusing since I stated it, but that's just for participating in other ways with the party, itself. Point being on that that it re-sets every year. One's party membership isn't continuous as far as the county is concerned. One can make a different choice same day when one shows up at a subsequent primary - as opposed to NY where they have to report the change 180 days ahead.

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Submitted by Haikukitty on Thu, 04/21/2016 - 11:10am

Oh, yes, you must do it ahead of time.

In Maryland, I think its about 2 months, I'm not exactly sure. But you can only vote for the candidates of whichever party you were registered for at that cutoff date.

And for instance, I've talked to several people who wanted to vote for Bernie, but since they were registered Independent, they couldn't get it changed to D and thus couldn't vote.

Its ridiculous. Independents should be able to choose which ballot they want, not be kept out of the process. But of course, that would mean loss of control from the diehard base.

Submitted by thanatokephaloides on Thu, 04/21/2016 - 3:06pm

To answer your question: NO.

This isn't the way it's done elsewhere? If you want to vote for the other party elsewhere, you have to fill out paperwork ahead of time?

That's correct. Most States have closed caucuses and primary elections, where one must have registered with his County as a member of a Party before one can vote in that Party's functions. In most States, you have until 30 days before the function to make that change. In NY, you need to commit six fucking months in advance, the worst such situation in the nation.

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Submitted by JuliaW on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 12:50pm

From GP NY

"Purged Primary Voters Have the Greens' Sympathies, but Lawsuit For "Open" Primaries Fails to Address the Real Problems–and it Could Destroy Third Parties"
http://www.gpny.org/statement_from_the_green_party_of_ny_on_open_primari...

Submitted by juancito on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 7:33pm

I agree with almost all their points but

building "third parties" that are primarily electoral vehicles for protest votes hasn't really achieved a lot. I say that although I have voted for them, and would again. I'd support independent politics where it is viable, and connected to something outside the electoral arena. I support an "inside-outside" strategy for the left. Open primaries don't "funnel" people any more than closed ones. This is structurally if not constitutionally a two-party system, and the Greens haven't cracked the code to electoral viability, Working Families certainly not. The Green party fails to be strongly and visibly connected to a social movement. I have met some real smart election-law-wonk Greens, god bless'em. All their other reforms would be great, but it's a bit of a laundry list with no, uh, washing-machine; in the mean-time, Democratic primaries are often the only place to cast a quasi-meaningful vote. So, respectfully we should all be allowed to vote in one or the other of the two parties' primary elections.

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Submitted by detroitmechworks on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 10:18am

Oh and Hillary broke the law. AGAIN.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li5ze_p987I]

Right outside a polling place. Nice to see that whole "Passive Campaigning" thing was just a myth. Apparently ACTIVE campaigning was cool, as long as you're Clinton.

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Submitted by MsGrin on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 10:44am

They won't let the embedded vid play - have to go to YouTube

Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li5ze_p987I&feature=player_embedded

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Submitted by WindDancer13 on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 6:49pm

From the YouTube comments:

Listen to how sad that chant is. That is not someone who is going to make it in Nov.

I've seen people be more passionate about their time zone than Hillary....

C S T, C S T, C S T GO CENTRAL STANDARD TIME!!!

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Submitted by thanatokephaloides on Thu, 04/21/2016 - 3:12pm

time zone

I've seen people be more passionate about their time zone than Hillary....
C S T, C S T, C S T GO CENTRAL STANDARD TIME!!!

That's nothing! You ought to see how partisan we inhabitants of The Timezone That Is Not To Be Named (Mountain)
can be!

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Submitted by Ajaradom on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 11:43am

Thanks MsGrin!

I appreciate all the information you've put together for us!

Bernie is sooo quiet today. I really hope he speaks to us today. I badly need to hear some reassurance from him that he will keep fighting! I do not use twitter or facebook, and I cannot find a place on his site to leave a message Anybody have any suggestions for me --- help.

Thanks

Submitted by stevej on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 12:24pm

I hope he disconnects his phone

opens a bottle of his favorite plonk and finds something good to binge watch on Netflix. If he would like to go out for a meal with his wife that would be good to.

I hope that, for one day, he forgets that politics and elections even exist. He has earned that much.

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Submitted by MsGrin on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 12:37pm

This is the email I got from him this morning

When we started this campaign, I emailed my supporters and said, "This campaign is not about Bernie Sanders. It's about a grassroots movement of Americans standing up and saying: 'Enough is enough. This country and our government belong to all of us, not just a handful of billionaires.'"

I believe that now more than ever.

We still have a path to the nomination, and our plan is to win the pledged delegates in this primary. Next week five states vote, and there are A LOT of delegates up for grabs. I am going to keep fighting for every vote, for every delegate, because each is a statement of support for the values we share. -Bernie Sanders

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Submitted by Ajaradom on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 5:26pm

Thanks Much MsGrin

You are so sweet to share his email with me You got me crying! Love ya Bernie Buddy

Submitted by Lookout on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 1:00pm

Ajaradom try the sanders reddit site

https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident
It let's you know whats going on with the energizer Bernie.

Here's his rally at Penn State yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f8GG-DpXOs

Tomorrow AM he's in Scranton, Pennsylvania no live stream posted yet (you can always check Bernie2016live on youtube)

Tomorrow pm he's at town hall in Reading PA. Here's the live stream:
http://www.shallownation.com/2016/04/20/video-bernie-sanders-sanders-tow...

Bernie finally slept at home last night, and I bet is resting his voice and developing his next steps. He hasn't given up on us. Let's not give up on him!

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Submitted by Ajaradom on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 5:31pm

Lookout you are lovely!

I'm crying happy tears now --- tears of relief Thanks for the reassurance and all the links!

Submitted by Pariah Dog on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 2:22pm

I read this on FB (but have

I read this on FB (but have not counted, myself): "Obama lost NY in 08. He only won a single county. Bernie won 50 of the 62 NY counties."

By my count he won 51. As I posted in another article, there are 62 counties and she supposedly took 11. All of them containing the bigger cities (except Albany).
The entire rest of the state showed Bernie as the winner - and mostly by pretty large margins. They're trying to tell us there are more people in those four cities than the whole rest of the state?

Look Here. Point at the individual counties and they'll show you the margins. It makes no sense.

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Submitted by thanatokephaloides on Thu, 04/21/2016 - 3:17pm

more people

They're trying to tell us there are more people in those four cities than the whole rest of the state??

Correct: because there are more people in those four cities than the whole rest of the state. Metro NYC contains approximately one American out of every 12.

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Submitted by riverlover on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 6:20pm

If one is calm and looks at county vote totals,

in most of the upstate counties, there was a 70-30 or 60-40 split, but the numbers of bodies were 20,000 thereabouts Upstate and 70,000+ in the City counties. Bodies voting, mass, did us in.

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Submitted by WindDancer13 on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 7:02pm

The alligator tears of NY officials

is not impressive. They knew of these problems well before Tuesday, and they chose not to do anything about them.

The clip of Jeff Weaver needs to be shortened and posted to Twitter and FB as soon as possible. Today, everyone is depressed, and we need our energy to fight against what is being done, and get Sanders elected. Showing the huge numbers of pledged delegates still available may help some people get back on track.

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Submitted by juancito on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 7:18pm

Bernie was extremely unlikely to win in NY

because

it was a closed primary that excluded independents, registered as WFP, etc. and it was closed since last year; and
it is Hillary's home state (politically) and she has won elections there before, is well-rooted there, and has a whole apparatus (she beat Obama in a primary, right?), and truthfully she had a lot of supporters; and
you cannot express sympathy for Palestinian suffering and criticize Israel's disproportionate use of force; and
say 'no" to AIPAC

given the political climate, and win a Democratic primary in NY.

I was never more impressed with Sanders than now, over those last two points, btw.

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Submitted by WindDancer13 on Thu, 04/21/2016 - 12:07am

I doubt if many people honestly thought he would win NY.

The problem is with the margin and the discrepancy between exist polling and the final count as well as the disenfranchisement of so many voters. I would suggest also that Sanders' internal polling showed something much different that what happened. From the campaign comments about how to proceed after the 26th, I think they are putting their ear to the ground to see if they can suss out how the fraudulent practices are happening. They will then have to decide how to either stop it or report it.

Yes, I loved the comments about the Palestinians also.

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Submitted by MsGrin on Thu, 04/21/2016 - 10:23am

I think you nailed it...

From the campaign comments about how to proceed after the 26th, I think they are putting their ear to the ground to see if they can suss out how the fraudulent practices are happening.

Bernie saves democracy! Go Bernie!

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Submitted by thanatokephaloides on Thu, 04/21/2016 - 3:22pm

NY primary: better news than we think at first

you cannot express sympathy for Palestinian suffering and criticize Israel's disproportionate use of force; and say 'no" to AIPAC given the political climate, and win a Democratic primary in NY.

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This makes the NY primary into better news than we think at first. Our beloved Bernie neither sold out nor pandered, and accepted the consequences instead. He is, therefore, the selfsame man he always was, the one we still need to be our President.

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Submitted by mjsmeme on Wed, 04/20/2016 - 8:38pm

They purged my daughter from the roles in Brooklyn

I voted absentee in NYC since I had to go the FLA yesterday for family stuff. I sent a quick note to the kids when I landed mid-afternoon, and got this response this morning:
SO, funny you should mention voter fraud, cause that was my experience last night when I went to my regular voting site to find that I had been inactivated. I made a terrible scene, got an affidavit paper ballot that they swore would be counted and have written to the local papers and lodged complaints with the Board of Elections and posted it to FB. After 7 yrs voting in the same place, no changes to any status, a registered Dem for 25+ years, having voted in 2014 in a major election, suddenly I am no where to be found. They say that after 4 years of not voiting this is pro forma, but it makes no sense in my case where it clearly doesn't apply. The BOE told me I was inactivated 'by the system". My sentiments exactly. Told me I wasn't unregistered and they would be sending me a letter confirming this in the coming weeks and would be looking into the issue generally. I noted that my name was added to a long list of some 50+ others at the time of my voting censure who the voluteer said also experienced this problem. That was at 7pm, early by voting standards, I am sure the list grew as the night wore on. So that's my shitty primary experience. Didn't want to tell you last night, I figured you were bearing enough with the wolves in your midst. (ref to my cousin and aunt who voted for Hillary and 'really don't want to talk about it')
We both live in Clinton Hill, Brooklyn, where our congressman Hakeem Jeffries, an up-and-coming establishment POS, has aspirations of becoming mayor. I write him weekly to remind him how I feel about having wasted my precious vote on someone so corrupt.

Submitted by MsGrin on Thu, 04/21/2016 - 10:24am

I think peeps were too shocked to reply to this

It really is abjectly shocking that we've come to this.

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

Submitted by Haikukitty on Thu, 04/21/2016 - 10:54am

This is so depressing

We can't let them sweep this crap under the rug.