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No need to post a link -- we now have a ceasefire and we have Trumps's word on its terms. Good news, sort of. Trump will now start bragging about how his tough talk worked.
I don't care why or how. This is less bad than what he promised.
Iran says it has achieved a great victory and forced the United States to accept its 10-point plan, according to a statement from Iran’s Supreme National Security Council.
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What we are seeing now is the US trying to save face.
They will spin this as a success. I do not trust any agreement
made by the US. Deception is their only card. What about
Israel? They are not backing down in spite of any negotiated
settlement. I guess a half baked cake is better than none?
Trump has announced a two-week ceasefire with Iran after previously threatening to exterminate their “entire civilization”, citing “a 10 point proposal from Iran” as the reason for the climb-down.
Trump and his cronies are spinning this as a colossal victory for the United States and framing Tehran’s 10-point plan as a major capitulation to the president’s threats. But some reporters are noting that Iran has had the same terms on the table for weeks — which would mean that it is in fact the White House who is backing down.
Hours before the president’s announcement, Drop Site’s Ryan Grim posted a TikTok video arguing that Trump could save face while walking back from his apocalyptic threats by simply accepting Iran’s 10-point peace plan and acting like it’s a new proposal the Iranians had only just put forward. Grim argued that Trump could get away with this because the western media have been completely ignoring Iran’s stated terms for a ceasefire this entire time.
https://twitter.com/caitoz/status/2041683813911453935
Interestingly, this appears to have been precisely what Trump wound up doing. After previously rejecting Iran’s proposals as “not good enough”, the president turned around and framed the Iranian offer as a brand new response to the pressures his administration was able to impose upon them.
All the way back on March 28, Drop Site News reported the following:
“Among Iran’s terms for permanently ending the war are a longterm guarantee that the U.S. and Israel will not attack Iran again and that any ceasefire also apply to Lebanon, Iraq and Palestine; reparations for the damages done to Iran during the war; sanctions relief; and that Iran retain control over the Strait of Hormuz.”
These are the same terms Iran is claiming it pressured the US to accept today. Iranian state media outlet Press TV cited Iran’s supreme national security council as saying “Iran achieved historic victory by forcing criminal US to accept its 10-point plan. US has accepted Iran’s control over Strait of Hormuz, enrichment right, removal of all sanctions.”
The New York Times reports the following:
“Two senior Iranian officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive negotiations, said the proposal included a guarantee that Iran would not be attacked again, an end to Israeli strikes against Hezbollah in Lebanon and the lifting of all sanctions.
“In return, Iran would lift its de facto blockade of the key shipping route through the Strait of Hormuz. Iran would also impose a fee of roughly $2 million per ship that it would split with Oman, which sits across the strait. Iran would use its share of the proceeds to reconstruct infrastructure destroyed by American and Israeli attacks, rather than demand direct compensation, according to the plan.”
https://twitter.com/lookner/status/2041653128236314859
So as things stand right now this certainly looks like a humiliating defeat for the empire. Iran gets a lot of things it didn’t have before the war, including tolling the Strait of Hormuz and relief from the US sanctions that have been crushing its economy for years, while the empire gets to resume its shipping for a hefty fee and pretend it just rescued the world from a nuclear Iran.
Quite the turnaround from a White House that just last month was saying “There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!”
Quincy Institute’s Trita Parsi, who always has great insights regarding western warmongering toward Iran, writes the following:
“I cannot emphasize this enough. A new dynamic will be at play when the US and Iran meet in Islamabad to negotiate a final deal based on Iran’s 10-point plan: Trump’s failed war has eliminated the potency of American military threats in US-Iran diplomacy. The US can still issue threats, but everyone will know that they no longer carry much weight. Essentially, war with Iran was tried and failed. As a result, negotiations will have to be based on genuine compromises from both sides, rather than coercion from either side.”
https://twitter.com/FurkanGozukara/status/2029926839217488153
There are of course many, many reasons to be pessimistic. The US and Israel have demonstrated time and time again that they will attack Iran during negotiations, and even if the US holds up its end of the bargain we can always see Israel sabotage the deal with its own aggressions. By now Iran has to know that the only way to protect itself from Israel is to impose costs for Israeli aggression on the entire western world; Tehran will have us all heating our homes with trash fires and growing carrots in our backyards if the west can’t find a way to rein in Israel.
For what it’s worth, Zionist Twitter is in absolute meltdown right now, with notorious Israel apologists like Laura Loomer, Eve Barlow and Eli David rending their garments in outrage that the killing has ended with Iran positioned as it is. I’m as skeptical about this ceasefire as anyone, but the fact that the world’s worst people are in meltdown about it right now does provide a faint glimmer of hope.
We shall see.
Wrestling warfare -- the yammering is the battle. Who backed down?
I have to say I admired the sarcastic taunts from Iran, like "Trump has now defeated Iran 37 times in a row."
I repeat: this preposterous development is MUCH LESS BAD than ending Iranian civilization.
And yes, Trump's version is full of caca. Quelle surprise!
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The church behind Hegseth’s crusading religious rhetoric.
This is a Moscow, Idaho based church 'Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches'.
Established in 1993 by some whacko named Doug Wilson.
CREC rejects religious pluralism, believes church should conquer the world
and has a militant adherent running the Pentagon
CREC theology includes the belief that the establishment clause of the Constitution does not require a separation of church and state.
Hegseth has a tattoo that says “Deus Vult” – “God wills it” – the rallying cry of Crusaders, another with the Arabic word for infidel, and the Jerusalem cross, a prominent Christian nationalist symbol. He also published a book titled “American Crusade.”
Next time you see this creep ranting, you begin to understand what he stands for.
@QMS
You can see the lunacy in Hegseth's eyes. Trump's weirdness does not spring from his worship of Jesus --it comes from his worship of himself.
Hegseth is a very useful tool for Trump's worship of Trump.
When Hegseth wigs this out, there will be blood on the floor.
The church behind Hegseth’s crusading religious rhetoric.
This is a Moscow, Idaho based church 'Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches'.
Established in 1993 by some whacko named Doug Wilson.
CREC rejects religious pluralism, believes church should conquer the world
and has a militant adherent running the Pentagon
CREC theology includes the belief that the establishment clause of the Constitution does not require a separation of church and state.
Hegseth has a tattoo that says “Deus Vult” – “God wills it” – the rallying cry of Crusaders, another with the Arabic word for infidel, and the Jerusalem cross, a prominent Christian nationalist symbol. He also published a book titled “American Crusade.”
Next time you see this creep ranting, you begin to understand what he stands for.
@fire with fire
These 'statements' mean next to nothing.
This war has taken on a life of its own. No
amount of agreements is going to change that.
More like playing scripts for domestic audiences.
At least Iran is playing their cards right. Makes
the others appear to be the fools. What will
happen if Iran defends Lebanon and bombs Israel?
Ceasefire for thee but not for me. Typical.
Little points like, can Isreal kill people in Lebanon during the cease fire?
And, how will the Strait of Hormuz be traversed during the ceasefire?
to blow-up any terms of settlement by bombing
the hell out of Beirut. Ya think trumpet could ask
his buddy to stop stealing the fire from his 'victory'?
Me neither. Now it is certain Iran will pound Israel
even harder.
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Let the pissing match begin
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
Iran called the tumpet's bluff
What we are seeing now is the US trying to save face.
They will spin this as a success. I do not trust any agreement
made by the US. Deception is their only card. What about
Israel? They are not backing down in spite of any negotiated
settlement. I guess a half baked cake is better than none?
Zionism is a social disease
I believe
not a single word he said, including “a” and “the”.
No smiley.
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
Believe a pathological liar who has
never been held accountable his/its whole worthless life? Ah, no.
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
Caitlin on the obvious
Wrestling warfare -- the yammering is the battle. Who backed down?
I have to say I admired the sarcastic taunts from Iran, like "Trump has now defeated Iran 37 times in a row."
I repeat: this preposterous development is MUCH LESS BAD than ending Iranian civilization.
And yes, Trump's version is full of caca. Quelle surprise!
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
An interesting article on our secretary of war
The church behind Hegseth’s crusading religious rhetoric.
This is a Moscow, Idaho based church 'Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches'.
Established in 1993 by some whacko named Doug Wilson.
CREC rejects religious pluralism, believes church should conquer the world
and has a militant adherent running the Pentagon
Next time you see this creep ranting, you begin to understand what he stands for.
https://asiatimes.com/2026/04/the-church-behind-hegseths-crusading-relig...
Zionism is a social disease
Does Trump share the psychotic Christianity?
You can see the lunacy in Hegseth's eyes. Trump's weirdness does not spring from his worship of Jesus --it comes from his worship of himself.
Hegseth is a very useful tool for Trump's worship of Trump.
When Hegseth wigs this out, there will be blood on the floor.
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
What a shock -- the three sides do not agree on what was agreed
Little points like, can Isreal kill people in Lebanon during the cease fire?
And, how will the Strait of Hormuz be traversed during the ceasefire?
Once again, confusion reigns.
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
Yeah I know
These 'statements' mean next to nothing.
This war has taken on a life of its own. No
amount of agreements is going to change that.
More like playing scripts for domestic audiences.
At least Iran is playing their cards right. Makes
the others appear to be the fools. What will
happen if Iran defends Lebanon and bombs Israel?
Ceasefire for thee but not for me. Typical.
Zionism is a social disease
Leave it to Bibi
to blow-up any terms of settlement by bombing
the hell out of Beirut. Ya think trumpet could ask
his buddy to stop stealing the fire from his 'victory'?
Me neither. Now it is certain Iran will pound Israel
even harder.
Zionism is a social disease