Open Thread - Thurs 30 Oct 2025 - Experiencing It Myself!

Experiencing It Myself!
I am so stressed right now. Have just lived through an example of Doctorow's 'enshittification'; maybe I should say, am living through it, because it's not been resolved yet.
My home computer system, phone line, internet, wireless, all worked great. And then it seems that the router, which is 9 years old, started to create problems. Basically whenever anyone calls on our phone line the internet link gets turned off. It turns back on, a minute or so after the call has started. During the phone call, the phone line emits horrible scratchy noises and whines. I've tested everything and I could be wrong, I suppose, but the problems I'm having indicate needing a new router, at least according to all the advice I've read on the 'net. Heck, most 'phone' companies suggest replacing the router every two to five years. 9 years is almost twice the longest lifetime they recommend!
So, yesterday, I spent 2 hours on the phone, on my web browser in chat, trying to talk to a human at the phone company to get a new router. This should NOT be hard. It should be easy to send out a new router; after all I've paid (wait for it)... $1,600+ over the 9 years of my router's life to the phone company because, unbeknownst to me, I was 'leasing' the router. Ohh the things we discover when deep diving into bills and weird fees.
Anyway, I was never able to talk to a human. The robot answering the phone told me to say 'request representative' to talk to a human. I did that over and over again, on like the 5 phone calls I made trying to talk to a human. That never happened. Finally, via the online robochat, I was given an appointment to have a 'team' come out to my house to check on the problem their system had detected on my line. Great, great. But I wanted to talk to a human to make sure the 'team' brings a new router because that's what's needed. Finally, after a ton of 'interaction' with robochat, I was handed off to a human, I think. She (female name) didn't know how to the help me, even though my question was simple, 'Is the team going to bring a new router?'. So she handed me off to another human, this one male with a name which indicated he lived in India or Indonesia (which is ok, I guess), and he was able to answer my question. Yes, they will bring a new router, just in case.
2 hours. Many computers and robo-humans. A simple question. Their website is full of stuff about getting a new router but, one can't do it. One can't get a human, or a robot, to send one out. I dunno what they expect if people can't do that. I don't think they care. After all, this is America! Most of us only have one choice in phone/internet providers. That provider might change depending upon our location, but we are locked in. Our local PUD built the high speed internet lines around this county, and a public/community owned utility should be running all of this. That's how it should be. And that utility should have an office someone can walk into, if needed. And they should have phone help lines staffed by humans!
Ok, that's enough complaining. here's the open thread! What's up, whatcha doing? Reading? Thinking? Listening to? Remember, everything is interesting if you dive deep enough, so tell us about where you're diving!
 
      
    
    

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Hope everyone has a great Thursday!
I'm hoping my day is better than yesterday, although, I dunno. I got a 'text message' from my phone company (how come they insist on using my cell phone, which is not via their company, to contact me?) saying they'd done a bunch of tests and my service is back to normal! So, I tested it, and no, it's not fixed. An incoming (and outgoing at times) phone call still cuts internet service. That's because it's not their internet/phone line that's the problem, it's their router. So I told them to keep the dang appointment they'd set up and bring me a new router!
Dang, Dang, Dang. So, hope everyone else is doing much, much better! What's up?
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Good morning Sima, sorry about your grief and hassle,
Based on my recollection that my costco carries routers I tried an internt search for routers at Costco, which did link to a page worth of them. First, however, was a short graphic showing pictures of 4 or 5 routers starting with a Netgear Nighthawk for $192.99 at Best Buy and a TP Link AX 1800 at Target for $59.99 as well as some articles/opinions on the best routers for 2025. I am willing to bet sizeable amounts of cowrie that Amazon has shitloads of them and I suspect that Walmart has a bunch too. Of course there are things to figure out -
which router(s) to get
how to set it up
where to return the one you now have to its rightful owner
how to get said
rotten bastidsto stop charging you for it.The internet can help with all but the last 2, or maybe all but the lat one, but, of course, that does depend upon you having a functioning router or a hotspot
be well and have a good one
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Just bought
a Netgear Nighthawk DOCSIS cable modem to replace the fragile and flakey hunk o' junk that Comcast is leasing to me. The whole Xfinity cable internet system is a house of cards- but at least I'll be able to semi-control my own blob, instead of having the router randomly reboot whenever a new person moves in in our apartment complex and they restart the head end routers. That can be a major pain in the ass when one is in the middle of a major video meeting, working remotely.
Now I just have to find a few hours to do the cutover. I need to get my wife to go shopping- otherwise, there is something streaming 24/7, as well as both of us working remotely from home for way too many hours a week.
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
Heh, I've had some Netgear stuff, don't recall exactly what.
Of course, I can still recall my joy in upgrading froma 300 baud modem to a 14400, wow, what a change that was.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Verrrry interesting - this morning I saw a copy of
the Fremont Patch which ran an article including s copy of a police sketch and telling me, in part:
I had to track it down to get that text, because, at first all I saw was a headline:
followed by a sketched headshot of a guy wearing some sort of headcovering and a facemask causing me to think "looks like one of those guys from ICE". When I called my wife's attention to it she agreed and then said that she wondered how many people would wear some sort of ICE/Nat Guard themed costume this halloween. I suspect it might be pretty common at adult parties. If anybody needs a costume, there you are.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
My first encounter with the New Normal of Screw You Service
My wife and I had to move out of the most pleasant dwelling we'd ever had because our landlord decided to give his condo in Pasadena to his son. We picked another condo, this one in West Hollywood. (BTW, we are life time renters because I have had to change jobs and cities every few years all through my "career.")
The Weho property did not come equipped with a laundry, but it did have a hookup for a stacked washer dryer. So we bought one from Sears.
As kids growing up a Dallas, in the 50s and 60s my wife and I each absorbed from our respective mothers the notion that Sears was a reliable company that stands by its products if they need service. So we were dumbfounded when we experienced their 21st Century version of customer service.
The dryer would not heat. So we called Sears and a guy came out. After looking at the closet that the Sears delivery crew had put the equipment in, the guy said he could not get behind the rig to work on it. A disagreement ensued. "Sears put it in there!" He called his boss and handed me the phone.
She said, "it is the customer's responsibility to get the equipment out of the closet."
As a lawyer, I knew that I could kick their ass in court. As an ex-lawyer, that sounded like a tedious eight months of bull shit.
Happyish ending to that story. The designated Sears shit-catcher was a nice guy, very small and agile. He somehow squeezed himself into the tiny available space and reconnected the heating element.
Countless frustrating episodes since then. The most outrageous of them occurred when I was in a hospital.
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Used to have a saying in our field
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"Junk out of the box"
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Sears really once ws that way. In my thirtie I cracked a
Carftsman socket that was my Dad's but like it started out as his dad's. Took it to the nearest Sears and they gave me a new one. Of course, back then, they subbed their tool production out to companies like Proto and Thorsen. As recently as abound 2002 one of their top of the line loppers failed on me and I took it back and they gave me some shit about it, but also replaced it. Meanwhile, the household Clothes Dryer is an antique Kenmore that keeps on chugging along, though I do have to go take some stuff off of/out of it, then put it back just as it was every now and then, have no idea why.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Good afternoon, sima!
No 'puter issues here, but a dog across the street from my office has been barking for the past 4 hours non-stop.
I did lease my routers for years, switched things over to one I bought a few years ago. Netgear something or other.
Our phone/internet service is from a co-op. They are actual human technicians and office staff, and any one can just walk into their office and take care of business.
Well, sima, hope the stress gets over and done pronto, chica.
Thanks for the OT.
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