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Saturday Open Thread - 8/16/25: Odds and Ends

Good morning, good people!

I read somewhere that seven companies are adding crickets to their flour. Careful with your baking mixes. We ain't in Martha White territory no more!

What did Coca-Cola do to their Diet Coke formula? (Not that it is anything but poisonous, but an addict is an addict.)

I always thought Goodwill did something for the poor. Well, not exactly. We donate, they re-sell to the paying public, pocket all proceeds. Ok, maybe poor people do benefit from the cheap prices, but the poor with no money get no good will from Goodwill. Most people I know, like myself, shop there for good deals for cheap, thinking it helps someone in need. I didn't know I was helping rich people in need of getting richer. My bad.

Must we be constantly fooled? Any reason why margarine is in the grocery store dairy product section? "Organic" veggies are not organic. FDA says OK on the labeling. We have fluoride in our water because dentists said so all those years ago? (Joke: That child who wasn't smart enough to get into med school becomes a dentist.) The only privacy protection in the country is classified government documents. Taco Bell beef tacos have a disclaimer in the fine print that they may not contain beef.

I could think of more lies we are literally being fed, but I expect the news throughout the day about the summit for Trump to get the Nobel Peace Prize might dominate the news.

Will we be fooled again? I have developed this attitude to the best of my ability:

Let's try to keep each other informed today as the post-summit news floods the internet, or as we think of something else that is worth sharing among friends. I am dding this from Politco. No cease fire, but progress was made.

Despite red carpet rollout, ‘no deal’ between Trump and Putin

The Putin Trump Summit: A Triumph for Putin, A Disaster for the Neocons

This is an open thread, open to any and all topics you feel are worth sharing with friends here.

Let 'er Rip!

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Lookout's picture

Summit summary from The Duran...

About 25 min or so before they answer listeners questions. They were generally positive, but cautioned about Trump's unpredictability.

I thought this was also an interesting analysis. He points out MSM bias and misreporting.

(28 min)

Got mowed out for the most part yesterday. Went to trade day and bought some cabbage, collard, and broccoli plants for the fall garden this morning. The summer garden is limping along still putting out a few tomatoes and okra.

Have a good weekend, and thanks for the OT!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout Tomatoes? Still? I'd plant some turnips for my favorite greens and cornbread meal, but my schedule this fall doesn't comport with gardening. Damn.
Thanks for the videos. I will start the viewing shortly.
Enjoy your weekend in your beloved holler, dear friend!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

QMS's picture

This from Judge Nap -

The Putin-Trump meeting could be the “first of many steps” toward a new era “commercial, political, diplomatic, cultural integration” between the two nations,

https://sputnikglobe.com/20250815/judge-napolitano-breaks-down-alaska-su...

For some strange reason, the western media and punditry expected it all to be about a
"Ceasefire". Ha, misinformed as usual.

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Thanks for the OT.

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Zionism is a social disease

@QMS Hope all i well with you and yours!
I had thought the summit would lean toward economic relations with the SMO taking a back seat. After I bring myself up to date with the video news and commentary, I can see if I was on to something or not.
August is winding down and we have not hit a 100 deg. day yet. The month I dread has simply not been dreadful. Hope your weather is pleasant, dear friend.
It is the little things!
Enjoy your weekend!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

I am only skimming headlines until the coffee does its' magic on my brain, but it does appear we can move the Doomsday clock back a bit after the summit.
Let 'er rip, friends!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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@on the cusp
am waiting for the coffee to do its' magic on my brain, only I'm on decaf so it's psychological.
Have noticed all coffee has gone up in price since the tariffs on Brazil went into effect last week. Boy that was fast.
Been eating that non-GMO corn you seeded me with and it's scrumptious. What a difference from the Frankincorn. Freezer is filling up fast even though we have corn every other night.
Heavy freak wind blew a couple over, but the green beans are holding the rest up. What a tangled mess. But effective.
We're camping near Kalama,WA. which is about 50 miles from the Oregon Air National Guard station in Portland.
We're not so much skiddish or overly chickenshit, it's just every time world events start heating up F-something or other flights increase exponentially, and they go right in front of our house.
Holy shit those things are loud. Shakes the walls.
Thanks for the OT and again for those magnificent seeds.
PS. Have some left over, hope they work next season. Will keep half of them wrapped and in the refrigerator and the other half wrapped and in a cool dark place. Just an experiment.
I need a root cellar badly. A winter project.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

@earthling1 seed, just in case?
So, you're a happy camper? Sounds lovely and much quieter!
Man, I hear ya about coffee prices! Although I buy Folger's 100% Columbian Coffee, they are not gonna pass up the chance to price gouge. All they have to do is price just a little bit less than coffee brands that use Brazilian coffee beans. I am the only coffee drinker at home, but I keep some at the office for anyone who wants a cup. I stay about 4 or 5 containers ahead of the game.
What I don't quite understand is the sudden rise in the cost of beef. Probably the most consumed meat at my home is ground beef. Burgers, spaghetti, goulash, tacos, meatloaf, etc...Before the rains come this afternoon, I am headed to the store to get 10 to 12 lbs. of it.
I did see a statistic that said all consumer goods would increase in price by 68% by the end of the year. Merry effin' Christmas.
The only sort of expensive item we need is a new charcoal grill. Knowing the parts come from China, we need to get it asap. Everything else, from weed eaters to toasters, we have, and they are new to fairly new. Preppers used to be sort of excitable boys, but that has changed. Now, be a prepper or eat from the neighborhood dumpster.
Enjoy your camping weekend, dear friend!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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So far Jeffrey, Col. M. now live

conference live

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語必忠信 行必正直

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@soryang

I think Max just coined the handle "the Orange McCain" for Trump.

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語必忠信 行必正直

@soryang I hope it is well attended and well received!
Thanks, friend!
Enjoy your weekend!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

New Fast Food Chain to Open: "Vlad and Donnie's Beef and Borsht"

Critics say the food better be good, because it's what we get instead of peace.

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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.

@fire with fire we want to have a full stomach when the bomb drops, after all.
Knowing Trump, it would have to be "Donnie and Vlad's..."
Have a fun weekend, friend!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@on the cusp Beef first, Vladdy first.

Somebody had to be more magnanimous, and President Blowhard prevailed.

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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.

and they are expensive, even in places where they are eaten regularly. I doubt anyone is putting them in flour to save money. More likely they are cutting cricket flour with regular wheat flour so they can sell you a pound of something you can titillate dinner guests with that doesn't cost as much.

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@ban nock If i decide one day to pay big bucks for edible bugs, I hope someone will report it to the State Bar and get my license yanked. It is an affront that people just might not know the crickets are in the product. If folks desire crickets and mealworms, it's on them.
Enjoy your weekend, friend!

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enhydra lutris's picture

write a comment when we had a powerr outage, but only lasted a little over an hour, nonetheless, crashed the whole damn house.

Dunno what Goodwill has become, but when I ws a kid, it, as opposed to the Starvation Army, hired a lot of disadvantaged people and gave them steady jobs and sometimes prepared them to join the regular "normal" workforce. I had a second or third cousin who had had scarlet fever at a very young age, he could read and write and liked to build models but couldn't talk for shit. He made noises and his parents could sometimes understand a lot of it due to constant exposure but my brother and I rally couldn't get any of it. Anyway, most of the stuff people donated needed repairs, fix-ups, clean up and inspection for defects and he worked full time for them doing all that stuff. His folks sold us that most of the people who did that kind of thing and handled warehouse jobs and "floor" jobs were, for some reason or other, unemployable when they hired them, and a moderate number eventually were able to work real jobs after a while. In any event, whether they ever graduated or not, they had steady jobs and regular paychecks even like they still had to live at home like he did.

Haven't tuned in to anything about the big beautiful meeting yet, but I had no expectations other than that the war would continue, and it seems so far that I was correct. Thanks to the electronic downtime we're gonna have to hit farmers' market and reset all devices and such before I'll get a chance to watch your vids or tune into all the sources I read + the Military Summary Channel.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

@enhydra lutris We typically have to re-set the clock on the stove and microwave, as nothing else needs attention after an outage. We have them when ice forms on the power lines, or trees fall on them. Outages aren't a thing here unless there is a hurricane or extremely rare ice storm. What the hell is going on out there?
Well, I guess I was actually correct that peace wasn't really the point of the summit.

Enjoy your weekend Dear Friend and have a Great Reset!

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@on the cusp

problem is a monopoly provider with a captive regulator. In this cse, we had some early morning showers after hot dry summer which mkes 2 causes likely 1) somebody lost it and put a vehicle into a power pole or 2) - in this cse virtually certain, accumulated detritus on pole mounted transformers arcs once sufficiently wet and transformer blows up - my wife heard it blow.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

What is sometimes called developed Putanism, seems to be fairly stable, though it might not be so great for citizens especially of the republics.

I'm sure Putin is well aware of how it all ended for Gaddafi, Hussien, and Ceaușescu. I'm sure he'd rather end up like his buddy Assad, or even better Hun Sen. The problem with authoritarian dictatorships is it's really hard to get old and leave power unless you have a son like N Korea's Kim.

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@ban nock

this year, Vlad or the orange one. I also wonder which is more sycophantic the Duma or US Congress. Which one has called out the troops to occupy its own cities more too. I already know which country's oligarchs have more power, and it doesn't start with R.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

@enhydra lutris comment below.

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@ban nock I consider Putin to be far less authoritarian than US presidents, as Executive Orders are now an every day occurrence.
Russia doesn't have their military on their streets.
We do.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

When Putin stepped to the microphone and began to speak, the neocon world imploded. Instead of a chastened Putin begging Trump for relief, the Russian President spoke calmly, initially focusing on the historical importance of Alaska as an air bridge that provided Russia with essential supplies during World War II. Throughout his remarks, Putin praised Trump for being a reliable negotiator and for putting in place a dialogue that brings a promise of normalized relations. Putin did not retreat from a single position he had previously presented regarding Russia’s requirements to bring an end to the war in Ukraine. He reiterated that the heart of the matter is root causes, i.e., NATO’s expansion to the east.

More here:
The Putin Trump Summit: A Triumph for Putin, A Disaster for the Neocons

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“The story around the world gives a silent testimony:
— The Beresovka mammoth, frozen in mud, with buttercups in his mouth…..”

The Adam and Eve Story, Chan Thomas 1963

@ovals49 I am gonna read it right now.
I am just relieved the summit, while not accomplishing much, did not blow up spectacularly by Trump doing something nutty, as is his way.
And I thought Shrub Bush was an embarrassment...Then comes Biden, and Trump...Is goofy ass AOC next?
Some pundits are predicting the EU is spoiling for WWIII, like 3rd time's a charm. Ordinary people the world over want peace. And we will be the ones in uniform, packing guns, dying like flies, to enrich certain banks and corporations.
I wish we could round those corporate elites, drop in a desert, instruct them to pound sand.
Enjoy your weekend, and I hope it includes finding good news, good conversation, good food, and a bunch of good laughs!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981