Saturday Open Thread - 5/10/25: Odds and Ends

Good morning, good people! We are still here, haven't been blown up, and no cyber attack to take away our communication! That's something good. Uh, can't think of much else good.

I appeared in court via zoom yesterday morning. I set up my lap top so that my background was my acreage visible through a large picture window. The occasional blue jay came to perch on a tree limb. Although the judge didn't mention it, she took her time before ending the session. H/t to Dear One for designing the room and overseeing its' construction. It is stunning. From the crest of the hill, down a slope, bordering a creek, then sharply rising to a ridge on the other side of the creek, it looks like our own little valley. It's the little things.

Twice this week, we were treated to The Magnificent Seven, (where did I get that name?) the herd of seven deer that come to snack on the vegetation, romp around the field. No pictures are possible, as they come at dusk and dawn, and we do not have the sophisticated cameras to make it happen. There are other Magnificent Seven, as we all know.

I can't resist:

There are so many global shifts, meetings, agreements, trade deals, treaties, conflicts, where to begin?

Well, I will leave it to you all to keep us abreast. Input, friend. Your input is welcome and necessary.

This is an Open Thread, open to any topic any one of you wish to post for comment or discussion. I will say, here and now, the comment threads on any given day on any open thread are intelligent, insightful, informative, and welcome, so I hope today is the same, friends. We help each other cope and prepare constantly. KUDOS!

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My newest client is a woman who took in some children while the parents did their prison time. Since they got out, they are back to drugs. The goal is to make her custody permanent. She happened to have been a Child Protective Services investigator for many years. The stories we shared, the societal changes over the decades, the throwaway aspect of child rearing as long as you get the tax credit and SNAPs benefits would just appall all of you, but she and I know about it and understand it as an American way of life.
Teach your children well.

Your turn! Let 'er rip!

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@on the cusp
That video really hit me hard. My eyes are only watering, right? I think it's because it's a great song, and the art in the video really hits the spot for me. Time to start wearing more pink. The looks I get when I wear my socialist t-shirts will be 'enhanced' when I add some code pink stuff Smile

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

@Sima That art on the video is really, really moving. I, too, felt a lump in my throat watching it. It was not at all what I expected from the Official video.
I hope you are feeling better and enjoying your weekend. Maybe you can cheer your Mother up a bit tomorrow? Be sure to tell her your friends here wish her all the best, compliment her for teaching her children very well, indeed.

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@on the cusp
I will pass them on. Smile I am feeling better. The weekend is doing pretty good, I think Smile

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
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Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

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@Sima  
in Germany to carry or wear in public.

https://store.mondoweiss.net/products/from-the-river-to-the-sea-tote-bag

I would have added vignettes of Gaza-Israel anti-genocide protests to the very end of that C S N & Y vid, to make it even more perfect.

I’ve always admired Code Pink, even after Democrats and everyone suddenly turned on them after Obama was elected. Not to forget the valiant antiwar mom Cindy Sheehan, either. The self-styled Dem liberals and progressives turned on her, too.

Ah, Democrats — Phil Ochs sure had their number.

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Raining today so the flea market was washed away. Went grocerying anyway.

The parade in Moscow was quite the event. George, Pepe, Oliver Stone and Ray McGovern were all there.

6 min reaction

And here's a bit from Pepe with the Judge...

6-7 min

Too bad Trump didn't go and participate.

Glad your new room has proven to be so useful. Nothing like bringing the beauty of nature into your home. Thanks for the OT!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout  
and do a little dance of world peace, joy, and harmony…

How about the ring-around-the-rosy rag?

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...paving the way to a new era....but Nooo! At least Xi and Putin worked on cooperative ventures.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout of our lifetime, Lo.
The MIC can't tolerate that.
Now, let's not all get distracted from Israel's dire needs, ok, everybody?
We cannot give peace a chance.

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@Lookout We had an unexpected brief but heavy rain last night that screwed up plans to mow some today. But, like you, we need the rain.
The drift of Western Europe toward Nazism is more and more evident. They can't be so stupid, so blind, not to know damn well that they would not exist right now if it had not been for the USSR defeating Germany. They refuse to celebrate the victory because the wrong people achieved it? Can we stop right now considering Western Europe to be advanced, sophisticated, and the rightful leaders of the Free World?
Thanks so much for the videos. My Dad would have saluted Russia if he were alive.
While we did grocery shopping yesterday for the upcoming week, we are trying a new recipe that calls for some spices we do not have, so Dear One is shopping locally for those.
Enjoy your weekend, friend!

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hide to view from. Very warm last couple of days, starting out that way today too Might get to take advantage of it today after farmers' market, Thursday we had seriously long distance errands and yesterday was infusion day, but today I just might get out into the garden. Our critters are all much less majestic, and nocturnal to boot, but we have a yard cam that picks them up for us; opossums, skunks, raccoons, and assorted feral cats.

well, off to market --

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

@enhydra lutris Glad you got the errands and infusion done so that you can enjoy your weekend.
We have some nocturnal critter under the house. Last night, they made their crawl space tunnel under the wall 3 times the size it was. Could be coons, rabbits, or armadillos.
What is happening as I type is a squirrel on a corner fence post. When a loud car in the distance roared, screeched tires, it got on the top of the fence post and put its' back against a tree. 5 minutes later, it still has its' back up against the wall!
Have a fun weekend, dear friend!

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hangs out in our front yard now and then, we can tell because it leaves its scat, but we don't have a camera out front.

Sounds like a safety minded squirrel, that may be a new species.

be well and have a good one

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At the farm right right now. Going back home to suburbia later this morning. Have babysitting duties with a grand-kitty for a week that we always enjoy.
Your place sounds like our farm complete with resident deer and a creek.
We can't actually see the creek as the is heavy foliage and trees blocking the view. State wildlife buffer zone and all. It's ok though, gives the place a primordial look.
We have been clearing out dead trees and brush, which is permitted.
There is a 150' buffer on both sides of creek.
And we can remove any invasive species and plant any native plants we choose.
You should post a shot of you picture window scene. Maybe that bluejay will "bomb" it.
Thanks for hosting the OT.
Will check in later today and say meoooow!

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

@earthling1 What's more fun than kitty sitting? Can't think of much, right off the top of my head.got a picture from the center window, showing some fairly close, very large trees. Then, there is a clearing, the favorite of the Magnificent Seven for grazing. Then, there is a cluster of trees and bushes which surround a deep gully. Although I can cut, remove, grow whatever I want, wherever I want,I leave a thicket on the banks of the creek because the land would wash into it and destroy the creek otherwise. We can't see the water without a short hike through the woods, but we can hear it flowing. If I dammed up the gully, it would create a 2 acre pond. However, if the dam broke, it would cause millions of dollars in damage down stream, and to Lake Livingston. I would need a Go Fund Me to pay for an insurance policy!

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Then if the gully were to get dammed, well, by gosh, it’d just be wild nature taking its course — you had nothing to do with it.

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@lotlizard where to put it, and they do not speak English, dammit! Many decades ago, I had an engineer from the Trinity River Authority come and map it out. Aside from being a liability, I was using the acreage for live stock grazing anyway.
Enjoy your weekend, friend!

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@humphrey So, the US finally got a negotiation successfully done, even if 30 days of kill stop ain't much to brag about? I wish we could follow the money and know for sure who is funding the terrorist mobs in Kashmir.
At any rate, I wish we could focus on the genocide in Gaza, see if Palestine will be recognized by the uS, as rumors about that are flying.
Enjoy your weekend, friend, and don't hesitate to drop in Xs for us as you go along your way!

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@humphrey Israel and the Palestinians on Oct. 7, 2023, check to see how much the AIPAC lobby donates to them. Or, perhaps the hypnosis they underwent really worked?
Thanks for the X!

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@on the cusp  
that one can be BIPoC, LGBTQIA+, use all the right words and check all the right boxes, and still be the biggest sh— in the world, enthusiastically taking the side of the blood-and-soil, “muh nation, race, and religion” supremacists when it comes to a litmus-test issue like Gaza and Palestine.

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...Does anyone around here happen to keep good tabs on prices at fast-food chains?

Small businesses have had to raise their prices of anything with eggs, of course, but have the prices of egg-products from BIG companies changed much? It'd tell us something either way.

I think we know it's more greedflation than any actual shortage, and if anybody can grab Big Egg by the neck and say, "now listen here, ya little shit...", it's McDonald's.

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In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.

Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!

@The Liberal Moonbat but they are getting very expensive.
A few weeks ago, we had 2 shopping stops with a Sonic in between their locations. Dear One had a regular cheeseburger, I had some Parmesean bread twist and a little cup of some creamy cheese sauce.
I recall it was between $11 and $12 bucks, plus we gave the car hop $2. No drinks, no fries.
It didn't use to be this way.
I will try to monitor it, friend!

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in some RWNJ sites to just get news that I do not see reported elsewhere. I completely ignore all opinion expressed, but nevertheless appreciate learning of current events kept out of the MSM.
My Google news feed would never report that Texas. Vs. Google ended with a historic $1.375 bn settlement against Google for tracking Texans online. Lefties and righties should all agree we are constitutionally guaranteed a right to privacy.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/google-hit-historic-1-375-billi...

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sixties, though not officially. Officially not long after, here, for example, is the Judge on a part of that. https://consortiumnews.com/2025/05/08/holes-in-the-us-constitution/

Remember when the phone co was caught spying on everybody, under Shrub, and Pelosi more or less granted them immunity?

The courts long ago ruled that wire tap laws don't apply to cell phones because they don't have wires. That's part of what got the EFF rolling.

privacy only exists when face to face in an anechoic chamber that is fully isolated with respect to the entire electromagnetic spectrum.

be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris matter, we remove all phones from our pockets, take a walk to some trees, well away from all security cameras, and speak in low voices. Smart stoves, refrigerators, w & d, any computer monitor, etc...can all "hear" us, el.
Thanks for the article. I may have read it, but I am always happy to re-read the Judge.
Given how commonly accepted it is for government to share info with Tech giants, I am gobsmacked Paxton pulled this off.

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@humphrey is such an ass wipe. Lies just like he was a real estate developer or some such!
Hmmm...

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is that I was born and reared in Hawai‘i.

It’s not that I’m pro-Trump — it’s just that, not being as beautiful and patient a soul as Israel Kamakawiwo‘ole or Lynette Hi‘ilani Cruz, I’m just so tired after a lifetime of trying to explain Hawaiian history to people.

I’m like, “Oh, now y’all up there in North America (‘the Mainland’) have figured out that people who make fortunes in real estate development are not necessarily folks with the most sterling character and are perhaps not the best people to be running things, whether out front or from behind the scenes?

Now you’ve figured out that annexing a place against the will of the people who have lived there since prehistoric times is a bad thing to do? Greenland? That’s what it takes for y’all to see it? How about listening to your own president Grover Cleveland about annexing Hawai‘i?”

/grumpy

TL;DR: Trump is just showing everyone now what it was always like to be a “local” coming from a place that bigwigs with money and the military had other plans for.

Martial Law in Hawai‘i

Bayonets in Paradise: Martial Law in Hawaii During World War II

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Got my free box from Feeding the Gulf Coast this week. Shock of all shock, it came with 2 dozen jumbo eggs. I guess that means the price has gone down. I don't eat a lot of breakfast foods, but I do like an egg once in a while. Most of the cereal, both hot and cold, I take down to the free food box.

They also gave me both link and ground pork sausage. I can't understand why sausage is so much. It's made out of the leftovers. The same with stew meat. It's cheaper to buy a roast and cut some off for stew.

About the only fast food I buy is from Burger King. One of my children set me up an app to order food. They have something called crowns that you earn and can get free food. Right now, they are having a promotion where you only pay $1.25 for a hamburger. They also have Whopper Wednesday. You used to get a Whopper for $3.00. It has since gone up to $3.99. Still not bad.

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@Enchantress Take advantage of the Burger King deal while it is available.
When I start to bitch about meat prices and hatin' on meat processing plants that use low wage immigrants on their assembly lines, I stop and think it through. Water is expensive. Hauling cattle is expensive.
No cow gets into a trailer and on a public highway, and into a feed lot without tags showing proper vet care. Vets charge more than ever now. All grass seed and fertilizer is way expensive. Hay is ridiculously expensive. Feed lot corn is expensive.
The same process applies for fowl and pigs.
Enjoy the deal on your food while you can, chica.
Have a great weekend!

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and this song, as I settle in to watch a movie on a computer screen, cuddling, not even on the balcony back row!

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stopped by.They snacked, are headed for the creek.
It's the little things in life, friends.

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mansplaining empire going, going, soon gone.
I am 5 minutes into it. What do you fols think?

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I think he's correct, in many ways. I always get frustrated at how few people actually know the history of the 'Roman Empire' in any detail. It lasted, in the West, for, well, Rome was founded in 800 BC or so. It 'fell': the city itself, in the mid 400's AD. It was an Empire ruled by Emperors from about 0 AD to the fall of the city. It controlled areas as a democratic empire with a Senate, not an Emperor, before 0 AD. Those areas included Greece, Macedonia, the Middle East, northern Africa, Spain, France, Germany... from around 200 BC on up. In the East, the Byzantine Empire continued after the fall of the western Roman Empire. Technically that didn't 'fall' until the late middle ages. And, if one goes by labeling, the 'Holy Roman Empire' didn't fall until the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand that started WWI.

Ok, enough of that blather. Back to listening to the video. Once again, I think Wolff is right about how we are changing.

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These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

@Sima @Sima but I am not schooled on the precise time line or the beadth of the conquered territories. I am better on the moment of the obvious ends.
Anyway, I ran across this video this evening while digesting my glorious Chinese pepper steak dinner, thought I would share for those who might be interested.
It is interesting, and Wolff has a gift in explaining economics in ways dufusses in economics can understand. I am proof positive.

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The timing isn't that important. What's important to me is that I don't think our 'empire' is falling. I think it's changing into a real empire, with an emperor, and it's struggling. And others will fight that, and it's gonna be ugly and probably kill a whole lot of people and animals (with nukes or whatever). Sooner or later, the military is going to take over. *shiver*

Anyway, I thought Wolff's ideas are basically spot on, and I really appreciate the way he can explain things for those of us who aren't economically gifted. The whole tariff thing was really weird to me, when it got started. I mean, how can raising prices on imports, basically applying a tax, do anything but raise prices for the normal people in this country? Tariffs make some sense IF the government is protecting usa-made products. But it's not, these things aren't made in the USA. So what's the point of the tariff? How can people be so stupid as to think tariffs are a good idea?

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These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

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is that nowadays jeans are made everywhere BUT the United States. It's cheaper. So if, instead of buying jeans that were imported to the United States and then exported to their country, other countries cut out the middleman and buy direct....

Two other serious problems: 1) State and local governments are supposed to deal with state and local problems. The Federal government is too big, too unwieldy, and too understaffed (even before all the massive cuts and layoffs) to handle them. 2) The one place NO ONE will even think of cutting back is the military - which is precisely where the greatest waste is.

So for all his yapping, I am not greatly impressed.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

@Sima @Sima doesn't resemble past empires in that it doesn't expand territory to any great degree. It is a financial empire. We just do not see the bank transactions. We do not place our flags and claim territories. Panama and Greenland are necessary ports for commerce. We don't want anything else from them.
Our military bases give the appearance that we could just take over a country, should we wish. However, our military is nothing more, nothing less, than mafia gang for the banksters. We kill for bananas, we kill for oil, both commodities are bankster's wishes and dreams.
Sometimes I see Trump making moves toward classic authoritarianism, but in context, he gained his position with lots of assistance from the media, and msm is by all measure, a CIA asset. He is taking over all branches of government by executive orders.
The day he disbands the CIA is the day I will truly believe he is our emperor.
This has been a great discussion, sima.

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It's a fair evaluation of what is happening. His skill at explaining it, makes it sound simple, like A, B, C, etc.

I would like to juxtapose this video which still emphasizes the old geopolitical strategy as if nothing has changed. It's quite a bit shorter, but it's important to keep in mind that this "expert" on Asia, China, Russia, geopolitics etc., is the product of the gatekeeper function of the most conservative institutions. I note she has also been patronized by Japan, which is a denialist country and also extremely conservative. Japan can't deal with its brutal legacy of killing tens of millions in China. The Hoover Institution is the keeper of the American myth. Newport and the US Navy, it's self explanatory. We have to be the good guys. This woman is one of the intellectual gate keepers on correct thought about Russia and China.

Sarah C.M. Paine: What Is China's Grand Strategy?

Hello, western powers only obey rules when it's in their interest to do so. Rules? Looking at the world today, do you see any rules? She's living in this fantasy where Chinese are the barbarians, and the west is civilized. She's living in the imperialist delusions of yesteryear. Domestically, the US is one of the most corrupt countries on earth. The ruling elites are exempt from following the law. Corruption permeates the legal system, and the regulatory structure. She's living in a dream world. The totality of the US legal system will lead to a just outcome? That's laughable. She calls the gross western exploitation of China "a gross embarrassment" minimizing it. The western opium trade and brutalizing China and other Asian countries, was that the rules based order? Get real. The US sense of normalcy is the US dominating the globe rather than China. She has it all wrong. It's the US that treats the seas as its territory. She lives inside the stove-piped echo chamber of the military industrial complex where such views are accepted as normal. US gunboats need to sit off China's harbors to "strangle China." US media have openly admitted this is the US strategy. The woman lacks insight because to recognize the reality of the decline of US world hegemony is untenable in the institutional world she lives in. She's an apologist for US world domination and an orientalist. Thank dog, the US doesn't "boss people around." This level of tunnel vision defies belief.

I much prefer Jane Hayward's thoughtful discussions of contemporary China. She is by no means uncritical of China, but her views must be given fair consideration because they are usually far more objective in nature and are reasonable efforts to analyze existing conditions rather than fantasy.

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Thanks for the OT and the Wolfe video OntheCusp!

(edited for typos and style)

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@soryang I need to know much more about Japan killing Chinese. Gotta say that part of history never came across my radar.
I want to know more about Asian on Asian animosity. The only time I saw it was when in Shanghai, I witnessed a Chinese businessman trying to check in two drunk women into the hotel where I was staying.
The doorman said they were drunk Filipino prostitutes, as usual. It caused a ruckus.
Asian on Asian discrimination. I had no idea up until that first night on my tour of China.
Glad you enjoyed Wolfe.
I will watch the video you posted now.
Heal quickly, no complications, ok? Ok?
Enjoy your weekend and your life, my friend!

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Peasant Nationalism Revisited: The Biography of a Book

Chalmers Johnson

It is now 15 years since Peasant Nationalism and Communist Power
was first published and became known as a controversial book.
However, when in the autumn of 1960 I began writing my doctoral
dissertation in political science at Berkeley, it never once crossed my
mind that I was writing something controversial or even publishable.
For the previous two years I had been reading Japanese Government
archives concerned with the Japanese war in China, 1937X5, archives
that had been obtained for the Berkeley libraries by Professor Robert
Scalapino from Hatano Ken'ichi, one of Japan's leading specialists
on China and a Japanese governmental adviser during the so-called
" China Incident." These archives impressed me with a point that I
thought was already widely accepted among scholars interested in
the Chinese Revolution - namely, that the Japanese army had
created conditions of such savagery in the Chinese countryside that
the peasantry in overwhelming numbers had given their allegiance
to the Chinese Communist Party as the only true leader of anti-
Japanese guerrilla resistance. Because the Communist Party had
openly championed resistance to Japan, it had won the " hearts and
minds" of a significant proportion of the rural population, an
achievement that guaranteed that in the postwar world it could no
longer be regarded by the Kuomintang (KMT) as merely a " rebel
faction." W

I first became familiar with the "Three Alls" reading a free excerpt of Chalmers Johnson's book on peasant nationalism in China. The three alls, kill all, burn all, loot all, was an extermination campaign by the Japanese Imperial Army against the civilian population of rural China. This history is deliberately concealed, omitted, covered up and denied by the US and Japan. The three alls campaign in China has been contended to be the model for the strategic hamlet program by the US in Vietnam. Typically, the focus of Japanese war crimes in China is limited to the horrendous Japanese massacre in Nanjing. This because the records of this crime against humanity is undeniable. The only dispute is over how many civilians did the Japanese massacre in Nanjing, thirty thousand or three hundred thousand. At the time, Japanese controlled media bragged about the killing contests among Japanese military officers to see who could murder the most civilians in beheading contests. I remember as a child seeing a picture of hundreds of Chinese corpses piled high in a Life Magazine history of the war, depicting that massacre.

Three Alls policy

Depending on the source the death toll from Japanese military campaigns in China, 1931-1937, vary from 20 to 35 million. Many of the civilian deaths are attributed to "cross fire" and "non-military" deaths, these expressions are misleading I think. Civilians were deliberately killed by the Japanese Imperial Army, their crops and food sources stolen or burned, their homes burned, villages burned etc., in anti-guerilla campaigns. So civilians dying from "non-military" events includes starvation, exposure, etc.

The US participated in the cover up of Japanese war crimes, because Japan was needed for its fascist anti communist orientation. The leadership of the new government of Japan after WWII was financed and supported by the US occupation government, and the CIA. War criminals such as Kishi, Sasakawa, and Kodama were released from confinement although they were charged with with war crimes, without trial, and emerged as leadership of post war Japan. The LDP, the ruling party in Japan, was founded by these war criminals and is still the basis for government in Japan. Abe was Kishi's grandson, Sasakawa was revered as a philanthropist in the US and internationally, and Kodama's role as the organized crime director, drug dealer, and looter of Asia is ignored. Needless to say Japan is still actively engaged in policies that deny their history of war crimes, the need to compensate the victims, and actively suppress any discussion of it, in their own education system, or the public media sources of their own or other countries. Japan patronizes scholars internationally to deny this history. This is how one could grow up in the US to hear little of it. I'm aware of the nature of the war with Japan because my uncle fought the Japanese in hand to hand combat, tunnel warfare, etc. during the island campaigns of WWII. I became aware of the Japanese policy of active suppression of their history of crimes against humanity from learning the Korean language, and watching South Korean history documentaries, and reading old Korean newspaper articles from the WWII era.

Of course there is racial discrimination in Japan, and Korea. Much of Japanese discrimination is against their own Korean minority, who are second class citizens. Despite this I would note that many ordinary Koreans admire Japanese culture and visit Japan often. Ms. So and her friends have visited Japan several times and enjoy it. This is not unusual. But there is a difference between admiring the cultural aspects of Japan, and attitudes toward their politics, although the two are subtly linked. I don't care much to engage in the culture wars about this and that. I was trained in undergrad as a historian, and I also had an interest in the legal and political ramifications of Japan's history of crimes against humanity, and not being fully held accountable after WWII, in contrast to treatment of war criminals in Germany, and their collaborators such as those in Vichy France. Frankly, it isn't easy to learn about this.

I wrote years ago an essay on the relationship of the Japanese Imperial Occupation of Korea, with contemporary post WWII Korea. This discussion still rings true today, because both Koreas' relationship with Japan, is influenced in profound ways, by Japanese historical brutality, efforts to wipe out Korean culture and Korean resistance, whether communists in the North or the independence movement revered in the South to this day. There was a failure in South Korea especially, to ever hold Korean collaborators with the Japanese occupiers accountable for their crimes, mostly due to the political pressure to stitch together dictatorships that would support the US occupation of the South. The US inherited this legacy as the replacement for the Japanese Empire in the South Korea and the far east generally. The people who support Japan today in South Korean politics are those whose families prospered by being the treasonous tools of the Japanese oppressors or the dictatorships that followed "liberation." Either that or they and their families have otherwise received or are receiving Japanese patronage. Japan, like the US, actively seeks out people of influence and civic organizations and heavily patronizes them to obtain their political loyalty and favorable views of Japan.

Coming to Terms with Japanese Imperialism- Then and Now

There is a deep fault line in modern Korean history beginning in the late 19th Century with the collapse of the Chosun dynasty. Japan exploited late Chosun weakness invading the peninsula on various pretexts and subjecting Korea to Japan's military dominance for economic exploitation. This commenced in earnest in 1894, not 1910, as is often alleged in western sources. The fundamental fault line that developed and exists to this day is the divide between those Koreans who resisted Japanese military, political and economic domination of the peninsula, and those Koreans who facilitated and profited from it.

I scan Asia Pacific Journal Japan Focus periodically for discussions on the legacy of this history in Korea. In ordinary discussions of culture some Japanese artists, intellectuals, journalists and scholars admit to many of these aspects of contemporary Japan and denialism of their history.

It is however, often treated in oblique, tactful, and abstract rather than blunt ways, that tend to defuse the historical "embarrassment" of Japan's denial of their history.

Mio Okido in conversation with Asato Ikeda:

There are better articles buried in the APJJF archives, I don't have time to dig them up. Buried in this discussion linked above, some of the basic admissions are there:

While art from other non-Western regions is often contextualized within narratives of European imperialism and colonialism, Japan’s imperialist history is less acknowledged.

The paintings were displayed in Berlin in 1931 as part of Japan-German cultural diplomacy and served as national propaganda, shortly before the Manchurian Incident took place. These works were intended to portray Japan as a nation of art and beauty, even as its militaristic ambitions grew. Through my work, I aimed to bring attention to the collection history of these paintings.

In this exhibition, I contemplated the dangers of the ‘beauty of Japanese art’ and its modern history.”

And of course, these works were received through a white Orientalist lens that would reinforce and reconfirm Japan’s self-Orientalizing presentation.

Self-critical thinking is encouraged in some cultures. Being self-critical has been a very important part of German culture, especially after the Second World War and during the student protest movement in the 1960s. In Japan, independent thinking is generally not encouraged.

In principle, if we are touched by the experiences of victims in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, we should be able to renounce violence in general regardless of nationality or ethnicity, and we should not have any problem empathizing with the Asian victims of Japanese militarism. There is a movement by activists in Hiroshima to address this point, but this is not the kind of perspective shared on a national level in Japan.

Not shared but actively suppressed.

This appears to be a good article on the CIA and cooperation with former Class A war criminals in Japan. I didn't finish it yet.

The Imperial Ghost in the Neoliberal Machine (Figuring the CIA)

Thanks for your comment and good wishes OntheCusp. My dog bite wounds look worse than ever, but I'm fairly sure I'm recovering well.

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@soryang I would feel like an ignorant buffoon, except I am in good company with most people on the planet. We are the bunch that got herded into the darkness and penned in.
This is my intorduction into a period and place of world history that got omitted from the books.
I intend to read every article in your provided links. I may start calling you Professor.

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Very kind of you to say that. As I get older and memory begins to fail, I feel like I should have produced some kind of bibliography or index.

I've learned from the people here in this community, including you, or gained new insights. Appreciate the open forum here; in other places when I have expressed my thoughts or opinions on these issues, I've had a poor reception.

I wish I knew more. I will order a couple of books on China I've been wanting to read. Now if I could only remember the titles...At the old pub we had, when I was called professor, it was "professor get me beer." I wish. The road not taken and all that.

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