Organic Protest vs. Astroturf?

This weekend, something called 5051 staged a wave of demonstrations around the country. Let me begin by saying that I have nothing negative to say about what I see in this CNN Piece:

‘50501’ protesters denounce Trump administration in nationwide rallies while supporting impacted communities
Story by Alaa Elassar and Kristin Chapman, CNN

A national day of action against President Donald Trump and his administration has united an outpouring of protesters across the country who are rallying in defiance of what they describe as a relentless assault on democratic institutions and civil liberties.

Over 80 protests were held at state capitols, courthouses and city halls in several states as part of the “50501” demonstrations – short for 50 protests, 50 states, one movement – condemning what they describe as Trump’s executive overreach, including deportations without due process, the dismantling of federal agencies and threats to higher education.

In addition to rallies, Saturday’s day of action saw communities coming together through food drives and donation campaigns, offering support to those most affected by the administration’s policies.

“We are sending a clear and urgent message to the country and to those in power: the people are paying attention, we are organizing, and we will not accept authoritarian overreach, fascist policy, or the dismantling of our rights under the Constitution,” Sarah Parker, one of the 50501’s national coordinators, told CNN.

“The administration’s continued targeting of marginalized communities, the criminalization of dissent, and the erosion of civil liberties demand a response — and this is ours.”

CNN has reached out to the White House for a comment.

In Washington, DC, protesters assembled outside the White House and the residence of Vice President JD Vance, who is currently in Rome, where he was meeting with a senior Vatican official on Saturday. Trump was at his golf club in Virginia.

In addition to rallies, Saturday’s day of action saw communities coming together through food drives and donation campaigns, offering support to those most affected by the administration’s policies.

“We are sending a clear and urgent message to the country and to those in power: the people are paying attention, we are organizing, and we will not accept authoritarian overreach, fascist policy, or the dismantling of our rights under the Constitution,” Sarah Parker, one of the 50501’s national coordinators, told CNN.

The only queasy feeling I get from this summary of sizable demonstrations is that this particular article comes from good old CNN -- a red flag for me, but it does not mean much as of now. I have no reason to doubt that the text is an honest description of organic organizing.

Lots of people are getting pissed off enough to do something about it.

Step One.

Chez mois, I would prefer rhetoric aimed at the Permanent Government rather than at the current POTUS, but that is none of my business. These pioneers are doing what they want to do. Good on them.

What I think we should all watch for is cooptation, which happened to Black Lives Matter. I know first-hand that national media attention is intoxicating and addictive.

Cheers to the organization and all its participants.

Anybody here go to one of those demos?

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in a Military Industrial dictatorship, and while I am heartened by these demonstrations against the administration's crimes against the American people and against free speech, I'm frightened by the fact that they don't seem to understand the connection between these crimes and the slaughter of the people of Ukraine and Palestine.

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@Linda Wood understands the connections between the Trump follies and the ongoing slaughter (for profit) around the globe. I just know that I hate all of it. Just as I posted my own reservation about the message coming out of 50501, I agree with your comment about Ukraine and Palestine.

I am glad to see hell raising that does not come from the Democratic party or its donors, even if I quibble with the messaging..

(I can't guarantee that this ain't astroturf.)

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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.

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Is it somehow formulated by the PTB
or are these pop-up demonstrations organic?

I am quite involved in local groups. 'Hands-off'
caught me totally unaware. Same with this '50501'.
If there was an inkling of a political demonstration
upcoming, my feelers would have caught it.
Granted, I am not on social media to any extent.

Still, it seems to be coordinated at a level which smells
of plastic construction. The purposes are clear enough.
Herd the discontent unto meaningless pens. Distraction.

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A mind that does not detest bad government is foolish.

@QMS but I don't want to substitute bile and pessimism for hopefeulness. I think the agents of the empire will be ready of co-opt this or any other grass roots movement -- but I don't assume it has already happened. Could be. Who knows anything for sure in the Disinformation Age?

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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.

@fire with fire

I don't want to substitute bile and pessimism for hopefeulness.

I don''t know how anyone can dismiss a popular movement if they haven't actually seen it. If you have any evidence that this is astroturf then say so. I'm sure we would all be interested.
During the Women's March in 2017 they had corporate sponsors. That was pretty clear. The Tea Party was embraced by Fox News.
Otherwise you aren't helping.

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@gjohnsit @gjohnsit HANDS OFF NATO!
and
HANDS OFF CUBA!

attendees were legitimately pissed.
organizers were partisan United Citizens.
Was this actually done the same day as planned Gaza protests?
an issue "too divisive" for these bottomless pockets.

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@kelly neither NATO or Cuba were a significant part of the protests.

and who are these "bottomless pockets"?

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@fire with fire
the information is unavailable to the
common man (a line in a song I think).
Cheers and thanks for the topic.

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A mind that does not detest bad government is foolish.

This protest movement seems like bullshit to me. Let's protest something called due process. Every day in every court people are charged with crimes created by cops and supported by prosecutors and judges. Want to see this in action, search for Judge Fleischer on Youtube to see how cops and prosecutors put people in jail without recourse. Until that is, they meet this elected judge who simply asks, what did they do that was illegal. Just a taste.

Protests that are aimed at a person rather than a cause seems to be always bullshit third party organized. There were protests on April 15th in Trump's first year. Was it about tax equity. Fuck no it was about Trump publishing his tax returns. Oh, yah, gop went onto pass their own rich people friendly tax cuts. I though the most corrupt protests were organized by the SEIU which had these nicely printed signs about how bad Trump was, not their issue of raising the minimum wage.

Higher education?? Fuck higher education. It is now a grift to put into debt countless thousands of students and their families. Oh wow, poor fucking Harvard got their federal funds removed. I better go protest that affront to higher education. But not the debt my family and millions of others like us are under.

I was living in Portland Oregon during the first Iraq war and joined in what was truly a very large protest against it. I think at time only NYC may have have had a larger one. And literally no where else. The democratic party and their private organizer fronts would not touch that as in fact they were in favor of war.

Just an observation on organized protests. During Covid lockdown some people in CA organized a local protest against mandatory vaccines. AntiFa the so called anarchist anti-fascist group showed up attacked them. That is not stupid irony. That was deliberate and paid for.

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