Anyone who has worked among, participated in community organizations, or attended social events among self-described "Conservatives" will have encountered the relentless cultural conformity policing this group employs against anyone who disagrees with them or even against displays of ordinary competence that make the darlings feeel baad.
I decided to argue "the facts" about Trump's early actions in his second term as POTUS. So I decided to try to figure out what constitutes a fact in contrast to opinion or supposition or mendacity.
1
a
: something that has actual existence
space exploration is now a fact
b
: an actual occurrence
prove the fact of damage
2
: a piece of information presented as having objective reality
These are the hard facts of the case.
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: the quality of being actual : actuality
a question of fact hinges on evidence
4
: a thing done: such as
a
: crime
accessory after the fact
b
archaic : action
c
obsolete : feat
5
archaic : performance
Hmmmmn. Not much help in how you distinguish true facts from lies. So I poked a little deeper into internet authoritative information:
Epistemology - Wikipedia
Epistemology is the branch of philosophy that examines the nature, origin, and limits of knowledge. Also called "theory of knowledge", it explores different types of knowledge, such as propositional knowledge about facts, practical knowledge in the form of skills, and knowledge by acquaintance as a familiarity through experience. Epistemologists study the concepts of belief, truth, and justification to understand the nature of knowledge. To discover how knowledge arises, they investigate sources of justification, such as perception, introspection, memory, reason, and testimony.
The school of skepticism questions the human ability to attain knowledge while fallibilism says that knowledge is never certain. Empiricists hold that all knowledge comes from sense experience, whereas rationalists believe that some knowledge does not depend on it.Coherentists argue that a belief is justified if it coheres with other beliefs. Foundationalists, by contrast, maintain that the justification of basic beliefs does not depend on other beliefs. Internalism and externalism debate whether justification is determined solely by mental states or also by external circumstances.
Separate branches of epistemology focus on knowledge in specific fields, like scientific, mathematical, moral, and religious knowledge. Naturalized epistemology relies on empirical methods and discoveries, whereas formal epistemology uses formal tools from logic. Social epistemology investigates the communal aspect of knowledge, and historical epistemology examines its historical conditions. Epistemology is closely related to psychology, which describes the beliefs people hold, while epistemology studies the norms governing the evaluation of beliefs. It also intersects with fields such as decision theory, education, and anthropology.
Early reflections on the nature, sources, and scope of knowledge are found in ancient Greek, Indian, and Chinese philosophy. The relation between reason and faith was a central topic in the medieval period. The modern era was characterized by the contrasting perspectives of empiricism and rationalism. Epistemologists in the 20th century examined the components, structure, and value of knowledge while integrating insights from the natural sciences and linguistics.
So many words. No answers at all about what really is true and what is caca. If you don't accept the true facts, there is just something wrong with you.
Where is Joe Friday when we need him? So many liars and cretins just making up what they want to believe.
I guess that argument never leads anywhere at all, beyond, "I know what's true, dammit! If you don't accept the true facts, there is just something wrong with you."
I have learned from 24 years of message board posting that the authority to designate a true Fact is infinite power. And to be wary of all who claim that authority.
So there is obviously something seriously wrong with me.
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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
I decided to argue "the facts" about Trump's early actions in his second term as POTUS. So I decided to try to figure out what constitutes a fact in contrast to opinion or supposition or mendacity.
1
a
: something that has actual existence
space exploration is now a fact
b
: an actual occurrence
prove the fact of damage
2
: a piece of information presented as having objective reality
These are the hard facts of the case.
3
: the quality of being actual : actuality
a question of fact hinges on evidence
4
: a thing done: such as
a
: crime
accessory after the fact
b
archaic : action
c
obsolete : feat
5
archaic : performance
Hmmmmn. Not much help in how you distinguish true facts from lies. So I poked a little deeper into internet authoritative information:
Epistemology - Wikipedia
Epistemology is the branch of philosophy that examines the nature, origin, and limits of knowledge. Also called "theory of knowledge", it explores different types of knowledge, such as propositional knowledge about facts, practical knowledge in the form of skills, and knowledge by acquaintance as a familiarity through experience. Epistemologists study the concepts of belief, truth, and justification to understand the nature of knowledge. To discover how knowledge arises, they investigate sources of justification, such as perception, introspection, memory, reason, and testimony.
The school of skepticism questions the human ability to attain knowledge while fallibilism says that knowledge is never certain. Empiricists hold that all knowledge comes from sense experience, whereas rationalists believe that some knowledge does not depend on it.Coherentists argue that a belief is justified if it coheres with other beliefs. Foundationalists, by contrast, maintain that the justification of basic beliefs does not depend on other beliefs. Internalism and externalism debate whether justification is determined solely by mental states or also by external circumstances.
Separate branches of epistemology focus on knowledge in specific fields, like scientific, mathematical, moral, and religious knowledge. Naturalized epistemology relies on empirical methods and discoveries, whereas formal epistemology uses formal tools from logic. Social epistemology investigates the communal aspect of knowledge, and historical epistemology examines its historical conditions. Epistemology is closely related to psychology, which describes the beliefs people hold, while epistemology studies the norms governing the evaluation of beliefs. It also intersects with fields such as decision theory, education, and anthropology.
Early reflections on the nature, sources, and scope of knowledge are found in ancient Greek, Indian, and Chinese philosophy. The relation between reason and faith was a central topic in the medieval period. The modern era was characterized by the contrasting perspectives of empiricism and rationalism. Epistemologists in the 20th century examined the components, structure, and value of knowledge while integrating insights from the natural sciences and linguistics.
So many words. No answers at all about what really is true and what is caca. If you don't accept the true facts, there is just something wrong with you.
Where is Joe Friday when we need him? So many liars and cretins just making up what they want to believe.
I guess that argument never leads anywhere at all, beyond, "I know what's true, dammit! If you don't accept the true facts, there is just something wrong with you."
I have learned from 24 years of message board posting that the authority to designate a true Fact is infinite power. And to be wary of all who claim that authority.
So there is obviously something seriously wrong with me.
Trump’s actions. Just like Biden allowed Israel to flatten Gaza and kill civilians he actually helped set up what Trump is doing to colleges and people who speak out for Palestinians. Republicans were right there with him.
Don’t forget that Biden got news sites to censor people who had a different take on Covid and got people banned from social media and shitlibs cheered him on. And what did republicans do? Oh sure they held a few hearings while they were out of power, but now that they are back in power….crickets. Kinda like Bernie railing against oligarchs while staying silent on them during Biden.
That you can’t see that both actions have bipartisan support leaves me baffled. It’s why congress is called the uniparty.
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Here in the USA arming and funding Israeli genocide and mass murder is perfectly OK, but objecting to it will get you expelled, arrested or deported.
That you can’t see that both actions have bipartisan support leaves me baffled.
I'm not baffled that you obviously didn't watch either of those videos.
It;s sad that even if I had posted everything in text you still wouldn't read it.
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Trump’s actions. Just like Biden allowed Israel to flatten Gaza and kill civilians he actually helped set up what Trump is doing to colleges and people who speak out for Palestinians. Republicans were right there with him.
Don’t forget that Biden got news sites to censor people who had a different take on Covid and got people banned from social media and shitlibs cheered him on. And what did republicans do? Oh sure they held a few hearings while they were out of power, but now that they are back in power….crickets. Kinda like Bernie railing against oligarchs while staying silent on them during Biden.
That you can’t see that both actions have bipartisan support leaves me baffled. It’s why congress is called the uniparty.
The republicans are great at laying the groundwork for what they themselves will do in the future. That way they can excuse their hypocrisy by saying the other side did it first, and that they were the victims. Once the fairness doctrine bit the dust (by bipartisnship) and most of Fox "news" was really just entertainment, along with the Florida (of course) court ruling that Fox was under no obligation to tell the truth during news segments; it threw away any truths. Journalism became worthless with bothsiderism. Now with Trump, if he can't suppress free speech by decree, Elon has enough $$$ to drag the speaker of the out of favor speech into bankruptcy. Or a mob will do it for him. So propaganda meets the truth, but who can tell which is which anymore?
Of course, the dems had their own goon squad, like at the primary in Texas(?) where Bernie supporters threw chairs at Pelosi and rioted, or something, and well, that Orange place.
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It always has been.
Anyone who has worked among, participated in community organizations, or attended social events among self-described "Conservatives" will have encountered the relentless cultural conformity policing this group employs against anyone who disagrees with them or even against displays of ordinary competence that make the darlings feeel baad.
Mary Bennett
Facts are nice things
FACTS
I decided to argue "the facts" about Trump's early actions in his second term as POTUS. So I decided to try to figure out what constitutes a fact in contrast to opinion or supposition or mendacity.
Hmmmmn. Not much help in how you distinguish true facts from lies. So I poked a little deeper into internet authoritative information:
So many words. No answers at all about what really is true and what is caca. If you don't accept the true facts, there is just something wrong with you.
Where is Joe Friday when we need him? So many liars and cretins just making up what they want to believe.
I guess that argument never leads anywhere at all, beyond, "I know what's true, dammit! If you don't accept the true facts, there is just something wrong with you."
I have learned from 24 years of message board posting that the authority to designate a true Fact is infinite power. And to be wary of all who claim that authority.
So there is obviously something seriously wrong with me.
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
So your point is that nothing is a fact?
Sure, you can go down that road, but by definition, that road logically goes nowhere.
Of course it isn't much of a leap to say that if (alternative) facts are meaningless then so is logic.
no
Facts do exist -- but so do lies. Power determines the difference.
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
And democrats are saying what about
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Trump’s actions. Just like Biden allowed Israel to flatten Gaza and kill civilians he actually helped set up what Trump is doing to colleges and people who speak out for Palestinians. Republicans were right there with him.
Don’t forget that Biden got news sites to censor people who had a different take on Covid and got people banned from social media and shitlibs cheered him on. And what did republicans do? Oh sure they held a few hearings while they were out of power, but now that they are back in power….crickets. Kinda like Bernie railing against oligarchs while staying silent on them during Biden.
That you can’t see that both actions have bipartisan support leaves me baffled. It’s why congress is called the uniparty.
Here in the USA arming and funding Israeli genocide and mass murder is perfectly OK, but objecting to it will get you expelled, arrested or deported.
Baffled
I'm not baffled that you obviously didn't watch either of those videos.
It;s sad that even if I had posted everything in text you still wouldn't read it.
Pretty much so.
The republicans are great at laying the groundwork for what they themselves will do in the future. That way they can excuse their hypocrisy by saying the other side did it first, and that they were the victims. Once the fairness doctrine bit the dust (by bipartisnship) and most of Fox "news" was really just entertainment, along with the Florida (of course) court ruling that Fox was under no obligation to tell the truth during news segments; it threw away any truths. Journalism became worthless with bothsiderism. Now with Trump, if he can't suppress free speech by decree, Elon has enough $$$ to drag the speaker of the out of favor speech into bankruptcy. Or a mob will do it for him. So propaganda meets the truth, but who can tell which is which anymore?
Of course, the dems had their own goon squad, like at the primary in Texas(?) where Bernie supporters threw chairs at Pelosi and rioted, or something, and well, that Orange place.