Dems finally identify the enemy
Their own grassroot voters.
A closed-door meeting for House Democrats this week included a gripe-fest directed at liberal grassroots organizations, sources tell Axios.Why it matters: Members of the Steering and Policy Committee — with House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) in the room — on Monday complained activist groups like MoveOn and Indivisible have facilitated thousands of phone calls to members' offices.
"People are pissed," a senior House Democrat who was at the meeting said of lawmakers' reaction to the calls.
The Democrat said Jeffries himself is "very frustrated" at the groups, who are trying to stir up a more confrontational opposition to Trump.
Ever since the 90's the Democratic Party has had nothing but contempt for their voters, and that trend has only gotten worse since Hillary's campaign when she decided to call leftist voters racist and sexist.
Now, when voters simply want their party to act like an opposition party, it's time to smack them down again.
Comments
In your other thread
you spoke about corruption. It must be massive and ingrained in our government. I keep thinking that one day the dems must fight back. Now, I don't think they will. Right now they get about 1/3 of the amount of cash from same corporate donors that the republicans get. I think the democrats are kept around as insurance for when the economy tanks. Obama filled that role well for the 1%. A dem can live well on that, plus some insider trading and sleight of hand legal bribery. The libs are great, because during the election the people respond well to their ideas and gee, good ol' centrist dem is with them 100%, until after the election.
I wonder, if you stand by and do nothing, is that collaboration? Can you be just a little corrupt, or say 13%? or is 49% ok? Just so it's not more than half? I mean, we're 3 weeks in, almost 4 years to go and it's going to get so much worse. These 1/2 wits are going to spend that time trying to impress Trump every day, in every way to hang on to their little piece of the action.
Hmm, so now you are saying that trumpet is not the problem?
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Perhaps the supposed two party fallacy of governance
may be more to blame? On that, I could agree. Neither the dems
nor the repugs care to admit that they are all in it for their personal
enrichment. You may call it corruption, but finger pointing does not
diminish the effects either way. Corrupted thought process is more
indicative of what we have to deal with.
question everything
It would seem that previously gjohnsit found headlines
and repeated them or strung them together, as it were, without too much analysis of what they meant. This can be hazardous when discussing Trump's misdeeds, as Team Biden (with mass media, Dem party, and alphabet agencies in tow) have deeply polluted the atmosphere for American political discussion. So, also, for instance you have Ralph Nader, repeated in Counterpunch:
A Trumpian Fascistic Coup is Underway—Stop It Before the Terror Starts
What Trump is in fact threatening to do is, through DOGE, crash the economy, as Yves Smith points out. This is, to be sure, also a bad outcome. But it is not as if America's teenagers are being forced at gunpoint to join the Trump Youth. Nor is it as if some ostensibly genuine opposition is being suppressed within the US government, and here one recalls that under Mussolini's regime, whence the name Fascist, the rather prominent Italian Communist Antonio Gramsci was in fact a member of Parliament. Or if you want a German equivalent, there's always the story of Ernst Thälmann, unfortunate victim of Hitler. We have no such equivalent here in the US. Perhaps we might cry foul at today's censorship, largely privatized, as an element of Fascism, but that isn't what Nader discussed in Counterpunch.
So, in short, we have Nader now unwittingly repeating Team Biden talking points about Trump. But this isn't an ideological misstep on his part so much as it is an omission of the extent to which Team Biden was previously granted, and seized, enormous reserves of power, and the extent to which they screwed America and the world with that power. This is our context.
"The Democratic Party has been focused too much on pleasing people who matter too little in this society." -- Chris Cuomo
or maybe
You just aren't used to engaging with someone who isn't a simpleton partisan. You have forgotten how to engage with someone who can hold two different ideas in their head at the same time. You have also forgotten that you probably should at least attempt to back up claims about people before dismissing them altogether. (and no, I did NOT do that to you, but maybe I should)
Ad hominem, boring.
It's not about you.
"The Democratic Party has been focused too much on pleasing people who matter too little in this society." -- Chris Cuomo
Your comment
was about me. I CAN read.
Let's take your most recent diary:
https://caucus99percent.com/content/trump-makes-corruption-great-again-p...
What's happening in fact is that Trump is making corruption aboveboard. Our entire economy is based on corruption, and it's been this way for quite some time. Riley and Brenner, from 2022:
And wtf did you think Project Ukraine was about? This is what I mean by discussing context. NB: Trump "does" a lot of stupid sh*t that gets reversed or that he has an underling walk back at some later point.
"The Democratic Party has been focused too much on pleasing people who matter too little in this society." -- Chris Cuomo
So what you are saying
is that by Trump legalizing corruption, he's growing the economy? That corruption is a good thing? That our economy can't function without corruption?
No.
Trump is far less special than the Dems are making him out to be.
He's far less special than the Europeans think he is. Here's Brian Berletic taking apart his VP's ostensibly ground-breaking speech in Munich:
He's far less special, especially, than he thinks he is. Now, of course Trump could do something special, as there is a lot of time left. But my vote for special President goes to Joe Biden, who was special in a James Buchanan sort of way.
"The Democratic Party has been focused too much on pleasing people who matter too little in this society." -- Chris Cuomo
And as regards growing the economy
"The economy" is self-cannibalizing. Ask that growing segment of the workforce that is obliged to freelance (or "1099" as it were) and is having increasing trouble monetizing what they would do anyway.
"The Democratic Party has been focused too much on pleasing people who matter too little in this society." -- Chris Cuomo
And increasing the corruption
would "help" the working class?
Is that what Trump is doing?
It's like Mary Kaye Catone says on FB: we've moved into a democratic vacuum. The only thing that would decrease "corruption" -- it's your term -- is effective pushback from the public, say for instance a way of effectively not voting for the two-party system. A general strike might also be helpful.
Please disabuse yourself of the notion that you are doing anything effective with hit-and-run diaries at c99%. Real education, much less agitation or organization, means discussing the context in which events occur.
"The Democratic Party has been focused too much on pleasing people who matter too little in this society." -- Chris Cuomo
Yes!
It's not my word, it's not my opinion, it's a fact!
Do you simply not understand what I've been posting?
Unfortunately you are probably right.
However, if you think that staying around and debating you every day would change anything then you misunderstand the internet. Not just corruption.
The fact that you haven't really answered any of my questions is a big red flag.
The Final Stages of Terminal Narcissism
It's like watching one of those "Disturbing '80s Afterschool-Specials" in real-time.
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
Ralph Nader lost his credibility with me
in 2000. And, no, I did not vote for him. I've said this several times but it bears repeating. When Raygun won in 1980, the GOPukes and their moneybag, greedball owners quietly jumped ship and landed in the Democratic Party. They slowly infiltrated it, and if one had half an informed brain, you could see the Blue Dog crap begin. A lot of people including liberal progressives said the centrist disease started with Carter. Perhaps so, but it really was the GOPuke Big Biz slimeballs getting Ronbo installed that cemented the slow destruction of FDR's New Deal. The BORG (Musk)/tRump turd elected combo are just the nasty result of a long simmering corruption combustion. Add in the destruction of the public schools and the crapo garbage of corporate media and voila! None of this surprises me, and I'm glad I am an old fart! Rec'd!!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
I agree with the Dem party types but have no sympathy
Move on, and all of what are called "the groups" were loved by the DNC types forever for their ready supply of volunteers, interns, staffers, and supplying good salary jobs for politicians out of power. The groups also are on standby to make tons of noise about any and all issues when told to do so.
Unfortunately the groups also installed themselves inside Biden's administration and along with Harris ran a cultural revolution for 4 years. Word policing, calling everyone racists, dancing around with Hamas scarves, nutty.
The American public hates that shit, blue hair and all.
Trump's folks planned out their first few weeks with care, they picked things the public hates that they could do to make lots of headlines and that they didn't need funding for. Foreign aid is something informed people with a humanitarian bent like, it's something people who don't follow politics hate. Likewise bureaucrats of any stripe, in agencies most have never heard of. And it's ungodly easy to find some program or another to use for headlines that sound crazy. Transgender goats for Gaza.
And left activists want what? The DNC types just lost an election, they don't have any of the 3 branches, and activists want them to fight popular things? Now the groups are having their funding taken away. No one cares.