Open Thread WE 5 FEB 25 ~ Transparency

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 6:00am

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We released 400,000 classified documents, the most extraordinary history of a war to ever have been released in our civilization. Those documents cover 109,000 deaths. That is serious matter.

-- Julian Assange

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The unredacted truth of government actions are buried under the blanket of
'national security' within a black box in some dusky room of the national archives.
Protecting spooks, crooks and liars from the exposure of their nefarious deeds is
presented to us as keeping us (in a) safe. If national interests preclude the general
population, then it makes sense.

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The United States strongly condemns the illegal disclosure of classified information. It puts people's lives in danger, threatens our national security, and undermines our efforts to work with other countries to solve obfuscate shared problems scams.
-- Hillary Clinton

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Open Thread aka transparent knowledge base. Open your books, show your hands.

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Submitted by Lookout on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 6:51am
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Redacted transparency is like the USAID site...dark.

It isn't Snowden who is a traitor, but the $hill is.

What Tulsi Gabbard Should Have Told Senator Bennet About Ed Snowden

Have a good day and thanks for the OT!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 7:40am
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@Lookout

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Found this statement earlier:

USAID needs a full and transparent audit. Americans deserve to know
exactly what is being done in their name overseas.

-- Ron Paul (former U.S. Representative from Texas)

Wonder who determines which budgets are secret?
Would think congress has some oversight on this.

Enjoy your day in the holler!

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Submitted by on the cusp on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 8:31am

According to my sources in the CIA,
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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 8:52am
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@on the cusp
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at least about one thing. Activities are just plain seekret.
Apparently, we can't be trusted with the truth.
Hmm. Is it legal to disagree?

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Submitted by usefewersyllables on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 9:18am
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@QMS

but the day is young.

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 9:40am
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@usefewersyllables
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in yesterday's OT

https://caucus99percent.com/comment/631568#comment-631568

https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1887031981965238560?mx=2

Quite revealing about the depth of depravity which USAID and NED
operate in. Perhaps not as seekret as they prefer. Clear things up?

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Submitted by soryang on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 10:02am
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In fact, I think the attack on USAID is a distraction. The attack is really on all domestic institutions that in any way, shape or form, divert government funding from the objectives sought by the techno-feudalists. So everyone knows what the CIA, and NED do, and now that stigma is readily extended to USAID, which provides cover for penetration of US foreign objectives. The attack on treasury is the macro attack on all Americans, and all government agencies. The narrow focus on USAID is a distraction. In a sense, it is a false flag attack, to hide a much broader domestic agenda. There is really an attack on US privacy rights and the traditional government structures as they operate domestically. The objective as always is to commodify life and all private data and wealth distribution in the US and transfer it to people like Musk.

Edited to add the false flag comment.

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語必忠信 行必正直

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 10:29am
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@soryang
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No doubt the FED has a shady agenda,
beyond printing debt money.
Would prefer to see this effort by the technocrats as transparency
in nature, rather than an attack against foundational institutions.
But I may very well be naive.

Thanks for bringing up this issue.

钱 - qián - money

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 9:57am
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Gold prices hit all-time high.
Fear of global trade "war"
have spooked investors.

Apparently the price spike is being
attributed to a shortage of gold in
London.

Experts have linked the shortage to a significant movement of gold to the US,
where inventories on the New York Comex, a major commodities exchange,
have soared by 88% since the presidential election in November 2024.

Smells fishy.

https://www.rt.com/business/612233-gold-price-record-high/

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Submitted by humphrey on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 10:38am

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5127666-google-ai-ethical-rules-up...

Google has updated its ethical policies on artificial intelligence, eliminating a pledge to not use AI technology for weapons development and surveillance.?

According to a now-archived version of Google’s AI principles seen on the Wayback Machine, the section titled “Applications we will not pursue” included weapons and other technology aimed at injuring people, along with technologies that “gather or use information for surveillance.”

As of Tuesday, the section was no longer listed on Google’s AI principles page.

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 10:35am
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@humphrey
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or an admission to prevent liability?
That cat escaped the bag awhile ago.

Cheers!

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Submitted by humphrey on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 10:48am

It showcases the erratic policy initiatives coming from the big Cheeto.

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 11:14am
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@humphrey
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While DeJoy planned for USPS to break even by 2023, it lost $9.5 billion in fiscal 2024.

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What, me worry?

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Submitted by humphrey on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 11:27am

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Thanks to Bibi and Miriam Adelson

To be fair.

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Submitted by usefewersyllables on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 11:45am
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Archived article from Zerohedge. Apparently there are large-scale ICE/DEA/FBI raids taking place only a couple of miles to my north today, up in Aurora. This could get interesting, at least for proper definitions of the word "interesting"....

https://archive.ph/9b5KC

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 12:28pm
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@usefewersyllables
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from one administration to the next
Biden: bring them in
Trump: get rid of them

helluvaway to plan ones' future
welcome to 'murica, now leave
Lotsa' room in Gitmo or El Salvador (for a slight fee).

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Sheesh

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 1:05pm
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Just like Obama deported more than Trump last time too.

Shitlibs are laughing at immigrants being deported because they voted for Trump.

One said that if he knew where he lived he’d call in his location.
And they’re blaming everyone who didn’t vote for Kamala for T ethnically cleansing Gaza, yet they gave Biden a pass for genociding them. GD disgusting people!
Neither actions are lawful.

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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.

Submitted by usefewersyllables on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 1:14pm
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@QMS

of the reason given is that these raids supposedly are targeting the Tren de Aragua gang, who have been very active in making life hell for some of the residents of a couple of apartment complexes up off of Leetsdale. That has made national news once or twice, so I'm not surprised if it starts there- nor will I be surprised when it doesn't *end* there.

It'll be interesting to see if there are shootouts as the day goes on. I drive right past a DEA building on my way to work, and there certainly was more than the usual activity there, so there may be some actual good that comes from this one (to accompany the inevitable bad that is part and parcel with any government activity). One hopes, at least, that they don't SWAT too many wrong addresses, or blow away too many innocent folks. That has been a specialty of drug raids around these parts over the past decade or so.

In any case, it is not a good day to be brown in Denver.

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 1:36pm
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Mr. Obama promised beaucoups transparency and then proceeded to attack whistleblowers right and left and to use state secrets privilege to prevent people from getting fair trials even though no actual sekrets were actually at risk. True to its first usage, btw, which was to prevent the victims of military malfeasance that caused an airplane crash from being able to sue.

We have always over-classified acts and policies of all branches of our government and all admin departments, not to keep information from alleged enemies, but to keep it from the US populace. In some cases this rises to the level of secret law, of which there is not supposed to be any.

be well and have a good one

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 2:11pm
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@enhydra lutris
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like the FISA court? Super seekret. Plebeian lawyers are disallowed
from entertaining any sort of questions of due process. Signed. sealed
and archived for evermore.

BWANGO

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Submitted by humphrey on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 2:31pm

celebrities for Kamala.

Money buys you luv!

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 3:22pm
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@humphrey
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Maybe now that USAID has been exposed,
touring agents will turn down their offers?
Publicity is one thing, association with crooks
have lasting marks. Reputations are at stake.

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Submitted by Cassiodorus on Wed, 02/05/2025 - 3:19pm
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The Donald let it slip as regards how many people Biden killed in Gaza:

Here's Moon of Alabama:

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/02/trump-wants-to-take-over-gaza-anno...

Rachel Blevins caught it too:

So yeah, about 500,000 dead. This comes from the mouth of a guy who has the highest of security clearances, and no filter between the ears. Now doesn't that make you feel like a good German? And to think of all of people who voted for Genocide Joe's stand in, all of their supposed deep concern for American democracy. Here's The Democratist:

https://thedemocratist.substack.com/p/why-did-democrats-lose-in-2024?r=6...

In 2024, the Democratic establishment effectively cancelled the primaries. Their paid consultants were on TV saying things like “I know that might not sound democratic, but that is the game”. DNC staffers tried to convince me, like the consultant in the video, that it’s “normal” to not have a primary when the incumbent is running again, which is just a bald-faced lie. When Biden dropped out after it became obvious he wasn’t mentally capable, instead of having an open process to select a new nominee, the establishment once again stepped in and made the decision for everyone: Harris.

The process they used to install Harris was facilitated by the Co-Chair of the Democratic National Convention Rules Committee, Tim Walz. In short, the new rules were written to make it effectively impossible for any candidate other than Harris to get the nomination. At least one candidate told their supporters not to nominate them, because the new rules set up the process explicitly and deliberately to expose their supporters to intimidation, harassment, and retaliation.

So the Democrats were going to "defend democracy" by destroying the democratic process in 2024, not once, but twice, in order to insure that the so-called opposition to Trump was 1) incompetent and 2) genocide-supporting.

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