OT WE 18 DEC 24 ~ Uncertainty

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 12/18/2024 - 5:00am

how to harness not-knowing in the service of wisdom, invention, mutual understanding, and resilience

A local author develops the notion of the anxieties related to 'uncertainty' can be harnessed
into consecutive energy to solve the underlying trepidations of not knowing how to react to
an ever-changing world. An interesting approach to something many people are dealing with.
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Perhaps, when in a dilemma, it is easier to flip a coin. Deeper pondering entails excavating
layers of presupposed conceptions. Examining potential consequences of actions.

Can you be comfortable with indecision or do you feel intimidated by obscurity?
Curious minds wonder.
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Open thread zone. Please share your interpretations of whatever is going on.

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 12/18/2024 - 7:17am

Hey there

Enjoyed this assessment by Larry Johnson:

"Turning to the situation in Syria. With each passing day I’m more convinced that Putin had good intel on the Western plan to take out Assad and, based on intel provided in part from China, correctly assessed that in light of Assad’s refusal to listen to Russian and Iranian advice that Turkey and the West were going to create for themselves a shit sandwich. Neither was prepared to deal with the consequences of a rapid collapse of Syria. I believe that Putin correctly calculated that the West and Turkey were creating a level of chaos in Syria it could neither control nor contain. While Russia could have intervened militarily and defeated HTS and its Turkish/Western backers, Putin and his advisors believed this would ultimately turn out to be a nightmare for Turkey and the West, and Russia was happy to let them eat it."

(my bold)

https://sonar21.com/ukraine-and-syria-a-western-plan-goes-awry/

Uncertain of the outcome of this recent misadventure. Self harm is a trait of psychotic policy.

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Submitted by soryang on Wed, 12/18/2024 - 9:04am

You broke it, you own it

@QMS @QMS @QMS

Comes to mind in Syria.

In South Korea-

Yoon is refusing all summons to appear for questioning, all search warrants, etc. Essentially, it's the presidential guard which is refusing service and blocking entry to offices and residence. Therefore, it is Han Duck-soo, the acting president who is supporting Yoon.

The PPP floor leader in the National Assembly is doing his best to have the party stonewall all initiatives by the majority opposition, playing for time. The prime minister and opposition will likely to do all they can to block and stall appointment of three additional Constitutional Court justices. The Court which currently only has six justices which is supposed to have 9, does not have a quorum, seven, to decide the Yoon impeachment case. Two of those justices have terms that end 4.18. So three appointments seems appropriate. These are all Yoon trademark tactics, stall, block, evade, etc. Discussion of Han's impeachment has arisen.

I watched the DN piece on Nuttyahoo's corruption trial, and how he is using the wars he has underway to avoid loss of office and jail. I think the situation in South Korea is analogous in some ways. Yoon wanted to use the same tact, trigger a military crisis with the north, to avoid prosecution of his wife and himself, and justify martial law. Although, the five principal ringleaders of the coup, have been arrested already, it's apparent that Yoon has to be as well. The instability in South Korea is increasing despite the impeachment vote in the National Assembly. I still think there is a chance of war and martial law.

The US has always tried to influence, if not dominate, South Korea and its domestic politics. If they are opposed to the instability, and the threat to national security in South Korea, they should use their influence to persuade Han Duck-su and the legislative leadership of the PPP to stop their stonewalling. allow the appointment of justices, let all legal process be carried out, and all investigations to proceed, and remove Yoon from the scene, now, by jailing him.

It is not in the interest of the US or South Korea to let this unstable and dangerous situation continue. Let the constitutional process be carried out.

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語必忠信行必正直

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 12/18/2024 - 11:06am

Thanks soryang

@soryang
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certainly the MIC/CIA won't fix it
they just like to break stuff and
leave the pieces behind

#1 #1 #1 Comes to mind in Syria. In South Korea- Yoon is refusing all summons to appear for questioning, all search warrants, etc. Essentially, it's the presidential guard which is refusing service and blocking entry to offices and residence. Therefore, it is Han Duck-soo, the acting president who is supporting Yoon. The PPP floor leader in the National Assembly is doing his best to have the party stonewall all initiatives by the majority opposition, playing for time. The prime minister and opposition will likely to do all they can to block and stall appointment of three additional Constitutional Court justices. The Court which currently only has six justices which is supposed to have 9, does not have a quorum, seven, to decide the Yoon impeachment case. Two of those justices have terms that end 4.18. So three appointments seems appropriate. These are all Yoon trademark tactics, stall, block, evade, etc. Discussion of Han's impeachment has arisen. I watched the DN piece on Nuttyahoo's corruption trial, and how he is using the wars he has underway to avoid loss of office and jail. I think the situation in South Korea is analogous in some ways. Yoon wanted to use the same tact, trigger a military crisis with the north, to avoid prosecution of his wife and himself, and justify martial law. Although, the five principal ringleaders of the coup, have been arrested already, it's apparent that Yoon has to be as well. The instability in South Korea is increasing despite the impeachment vote in the National Assembly. I still think there is a chance of war and martial law. The US has always tried to influence, if not dominate, South Korea and its domestic politics. If they are opposed to the instability, and the threat to national security in South Korea, they should use their influence to persuade Han Duck-su and the legislative leadership of the PPP to stop their stonewalling. allow the appointment of justices, let all legal process be carried out, and all investigations to proceed, and remove Yoon from the scene, now, by jailing him. It is not in the interest of the US or South Korea to let this unstable and dangerous situation continue. Let the constitutional process be carried out.

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Submitted by la58 on Wed, 12/18/2024 - 9:45am

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 12/18/2024 - 10:46am

Hey, thanks for that link

@la58
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Looks fascinating in an off-hand way.
Will bookmark it.
Speaks to my lingo.

cheers

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Submitted by Lookout on Wed, 12/18/2024 - 9:16am

Good morning...

I live in limbo until I have evidence to come to one conclusion or another. I'm fine with uncertainty.

I think Larry's conclusions above are reasonable.

I wonder what Russia's retaliation for it's General's assassination will be. A good example of living with uncertainty.

Take care and have a great day!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Submitted by usefewersyllables on Wed, 12/18/2024 - 10:29am

I am uncertain

about my uncertainty. To my way of thinking, uncertainty represents the only reality I've ever known. If certainty were to somehow creep into it, I'm uncertain how I would react. I have come to strongly depend upon my uncertainty, and do not wish its supply to be threatened.

After all, once you remove the uncertainty from the equation, the only thing left is death and taxes. And where's the fun in that? (;-)

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Twice bitten, permanently shy.

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 12/18/2024 - 10:48am

Ha, that is certainly uncertain

@usefewersyllables
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So, they opened a new restaurant in town.
It is named 'Karma Eats'. Went in to check out
the menu. Proprietor says, no menu.
You only get what you deserve!

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Wed, 12/18/2024 - 10:54am

Good morning Cap'n Q. Uncertainty is!

There is a sense in which certainty is the product of magikal thinking. Religions derive from that wellspring. There is some innate drive for apodictic knowledge, but such knowledge must come from tautologies or devine revelations, it cannot have an empirical component. (PS: don't go there)

We all know the uncertainty of an unknowable future, the uncertainty of the truth of the utterances of government officials, gossips and others, and the like, but, if we aren't focused on the epistemological issue, we tend to think of such things as somehow aberrant. They are not. There is global uncertainty at the quantum level and probabilistic uncertainty at the macro level. If I set irrefutability at the definition of certainty and set myself that goal I wind up trapped in solipcism. I can only speak with certainty about the immediately perceived reality and the admitted personal projections based thereon. (Live with it, there isn't really any other option)

Descartes, FWIW, cheated, his "cogito" was based on a sneaky little bit of Deus ex machina, a presumed god who was, furthermore not a trickster but some benign supernatural overlord who would not permit Descartes to err or fool himself. Lacking this magikal being he can only arrive at some endless regress of thinking that he thinks and thinking that he thinks that he is. A certain group of existentialists get past this by a "leap of faith" or "leap to faith" as the case may be, but it is both more honest and more rigorous to simply step up to the plate and knowingly assert "I AM!" and get on with it.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 12/18/2024 - 11:50am

that is certainly a good shake-out

@enhydra lutris
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of the issues, leaping faiths and all
will have to re-read this a few times to
get the mind wrapped around the concepts

bwango

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 12/18/2024 - 11:03am

Escalation or Tit-for-Tat?

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Russian Missile Jets Carry Out Flight Near Alaskan Coast
also
Two Russian Tu-95 Strategic Missile Carriers Fly Over Sea of Japan

Wonder if Palin can see the show from her back porch?

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Submitted by on the cusp on Wed, 12/18/2024 - 11:30am

Good morning, Cap'n,

although I am uncertain if my well-wish for you can be accomplished. I certainly tried.
I thrive in a profession that is based upon uncertainty. You never know the outcome of any hearing, ruling, or trial. The biggest challenge is to get that reality clearly understood by the client/litigant.
The only certainty in history is that war profiteers are gonna make profits perpetually.
Very cool OT, friend!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 12/18/2024 - 11:59am

thanks for attending counselor

@on the cusp
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arguing a point of law ad nauseam
rhymes with customer agreements
written in microprint leaving the door of
uncertainty wide open .. or is that an
interpretation of the definition of 'is'?