11/18 Open Thread - The Anniversary of Goodridge v. Department of Public Health
On this day in 2003 The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court ruled that the state's ban on same-sex marriage was unconstitutional in Goodridge v. Department of Public Health. This resulted an a great wailing and gnashing of teeth among assorted priests, sacerdotes. their acolytes and faithful followers who had become habituated to the bizarre intrusion of these types into everybody's lives. Nobody knows the time at which religionists began exerting control over people's love lives and sex lives, but we do know that it wasn't always the case and was seemingly also never everywhere the case. Some simply chalk it up to the rise of patriarchal religions and cultures and the concomitant rise of cultural phenomena such as primogeniture, the treatment of females as chattels and/or currency, the use of females as "wives" to cement political alliances and the like. Others suggest that it was simply a con job somehow perpetrated by the priestly classes to gain control over one of peoples' primordial drives simply for the sake of the power or to profit from its displacement or sublimation. Whatever the cause, the Massachusetts court did not find that imposition of the religious dogmas of various groups upon the populace as a whole without any underlying rational purpose was a legitimate governmental purpose:
This court concluded that barring an individual from the protections, benefits, and obligations of civil marriage solely because that person would marry a person of the same sex violated the Massachusetts Constitution in that such a marriage ban did not meet the rational basis test for either due process or equal protection, where the Commonwealth failed to identify any constitutionally adequate reason for denying civil marriage to same-sex couples.
This decision was quite possibly the thin edge of the judicial wedge against such rationally purposeless laws, though the battle to impose them on society continues, with prohibitions against abortion being an obvious example.
Somewhat apropos to the questions and issues above, on this day in 1302 Pope Boniface VIII issued the Papal bull Unam sanctam. I'll let the wiki take it from there:
Unam sanctam[a] is a papal bull that was issued by Pope Boniface VIII on 18 November 1302. It laid down dogmatic propositions on the unity of the Catholic Church, the necessity of belonging to it for eternal salvation, the position of the Pope as supreme head of the Church and the duty thence arising of submission to the Pope in order to belong to the Church and thus to attain salvation. The Pope further emphasized the higher position of the spiritual in comparison with the secular order. The historian Brian Tierney calls it "probably the most famous" document on church and state in medieval Europe.[1] The original document is lost, but a version of the text can be found in the registers of Boniface VIII in the Vatican Archives.[2] The bull was the definitive statement of the late medieval theory of hierocracy, which argued for the temporal as well as spiritual supremacy of the pope.[3]
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On this day in history:
1095 – The Council of Clermont began: leading to the First Crusade
1302 – Pope Boniface VIII issued the Papal bull Unam sanctam, creating a papal dictatorship in both the secular and spiritual realms.
1803 – The Battle of Vertières, was fought, leading to the establishment of the Republic of Haiti
1865 – Mark Twain's "The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County" was published
1872 – Susan B. Anthony and 14 other women were arrested for voting while female
1883 – US and Canadian railroads instituted five standard continental time zones
1903 – Panama gave the US exclusive rights over the Canal Zone in the Hay–Bunau-Varilla Treaty.
1909 – The US sent two warships plus some marines to set up a base in Nicaragua for attacks on the government of José Santos Zelaya. This was in part because Nicaragua was a threat to create a shipping path between the Atlantic and Pacific competing with the Panama Canal.
1910 – Black Friday: Three hundred suffragettes marched to the British Parliament iwhere they wr attacked, beaten, and some even sexually molested by cops and crowds of male citizens. Calls for a public inquiry were rejected by Winnie Churchill. *
1928 – Steamboat Willie was released, eventually leading to our obscenely extended copyright laws
1961 –JFK sent 18,000 soldiers to South Vietnam as, heh, "advisors".
1978 – The Jonestown massacre went down, making a meme out of kool-aid
1985 – Calvin and Hobbes was published in ten newspapers
1988 – Reagan signed a bill into law allowing the death penalty for drug traffickers.
1993 –The US House of Representatives. approved NAFTA. Thanks Bill.
2002 – United Nations weapons inspectors led by Hans Blix arrived in Iraq but GWB and his entire cabinet were able to lie the US into war on Iraq all the same..
2003 – The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court ruled that the state's ban on same-sex marriage was unconstitutional and gave the state legislature 180 days to change the law. This made Massachusetts the first state in the United States to grant marriage rights to same-sex couples. (Goodridge v. Department of Public Health)
* Churchill was called the Home Secretary, but nobody ever saw him take dictation
Some people who were born on this day:
The art of advertisement, after the American manner, has introduced into all our life such a lavish use of superlatives, that no standard of value whatever is intact.
~~ Wyndham Lewis
1787 – Louis Daguerre, physicist and photographer, invented the daguerreotype
1810 – Asa Gray, botanist
1836 – W. S. Gilbert, playwright, poet, and illustrator
1860 – Ignacy Jan Paderewski, pianist, composer, and politician
1861 – Dorothy Dix, journalist and author
1882 – Wyndham Lewis, painter and critic
1882 – Frances Gertrude McGill, pioneering forensic pathologist
1899 – Eugene Ormandy, violinist and conductor
1899 – Howard Thurman, author, philosopher and civil rights activist open thread,
1901 – George Gallup, statistician
1908 – Imogene Coca, actress, comedian, and singer
1909 – Johnny Mercer, singer, songwriter and producer, co-founder of Capitol Records
1927 – Hank Ballard, singer and songwriter
1928 – Sheila Jordan, singer, songwriter, and pianist
1936 – Don Cherry, trumpet player
1944 – Edwin C. Krupp, astronomer, archaeoastronomer, author, Director Griffith Observatory
1945 – Wilma Mankiller, activist, social worker, and first female principal chief of the Cherokee Nation
1946 – Chris Rainbow, singer, songwriter, and producer
1950 – Graham Parker, singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1950 – Rudy Sarzo, rock bass player
1952 – John Parr, singer, songwriter and guitarist
1953 – Jan Kuehnemund, rock guitarist
1957 – Tony Bunn, bassist, composer, producer, and writer
1960 – Kim Wilde, singer & songwriter
Some people who died on this day:
As long as men are free to ask what they must, free to say what they think, free to think what they will, freedom can never be lost and science can never regress.
~~ Marcel Proust
1247 – Robin Hood, heroic outlaw in English folklore; nothing about him, including his existence, is known with any certainty, except, it seems, his death.
1922 – Marcel Proust, author and critic
1952 – Paul Éluard, poet and author
1962 – Niels Bohr, physicist, and academic,
1965 – Henry A. Wallace, agronomist and bureaucrat,
1969 – Ted Heath, trombonist and bandleader
1972 – Danny Whitten, singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1976 – Man Ray, photographer and painter
1994 – Cab Calloway, singer, songwriter and bandleader
1999 – Doug Sahm, singer, guitarist, bajo sexto, and fiddle player. Sir Douglas, Texas Tornado.
2004 – Cy Coleman, pianist and composer
2010 – Brian G. Marsden, astronomer
2013 – S. R. D. Vaidyanathan, nadaswaram player and composer
2014 – Dave Appell, singer, songwriter. and producer
2016 – Sharon Jones, soul and funk singer
Some Holidays, Holy Days, Festivals, Feast Days, Days of Recognition, and such:
Apple Cider Day
Occult Day
William Tell Day
Today's Tunes
Goodridge v. Department of Public Health
Louis Daguerre
WS Gilbert
Johnny Mercer
Hank Ballard
Sheila Jordan
Don Cherry
Chris Rainbow
Graham Parker
John Parr
Jan Kuehnemund
Tony Bunn
Kim Wilde
Marcel Proust
Cab Calloway
Sharon Jones
Sir Douglas Sahm
Tornado Doug Sahm
Bajo Sexto Sahm
Alrighty, lookout! Doug Sahm, Leon Russell, Jerry Garcia & Friends: 2&1/2 Hour Jam
Ok, it's an open thread, so it's up to you folks now. So what's on your mind?
Cross posted from http://caucus99percent.com
Open Thread, Goodridge v. Department of Public Health, Marcel Proust, Wilma Mankiller, Cab Calloway, Doug Sahm, Hank Ballard, Sheila Jordan
, Sharon Jones
Comments
Good morning...
Even in Alabama, gay marriage has not even stirred a ripple in society. Inter-racial marriage seemed a bigger stir here in the South, but now no one blinks an eye. Both are well accepted which is a good thing to my mind.
Monday AM is the Judge's interview with Alastair Crooke.
Alastair Crooke : Netanyahu’s Imaginary Victories (30 min)
Thanks for the music and OT!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Good morning LO, thanks for the video. Good to hear
that Alabama is getting more accepting of "unconventional" marriages. All the flap, imho, is due to yet another misbegotten intrusion of religion into everyday life, with "marriage" being a "sacrament" of some sort and ergo subject to the prejuedices and hatreds of the sect perpetrating said intrusion. That makes such marriages a good thing if only because they weaken the influence of the religionistas over secular affairs.
be well and have a good thing.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Woke up "not dead"
again this morning.
I wonder how much longer my luck will hold out?
I read the news about Biden's decision to immanentize the eschaton just before bed last night. I'd spent the weekend listening to music, old and new, and hadn't paid attention to the news. Serves me right- I didn't get much sleep. The old man will do anything he can to screw up Trump, up to and including killing us all. Now *that* is some spite, right there.
Anyway, at this moment I'm listening to CSN's "Wooden Ships", and the next song in the playlist is "Altus Silva" from Peter Gabriel's "Big Blue Ball" album, followed by "Walk Across The Rooftops" by Blue Nile and "Ever The Sun Will Rise" from the Tony Levin Band. I find this section of this playlist to be conducive to healing, so I think that I'll be listening to it extensively this morning. I'll leave Gang of Four's "He'd Send In The Army" until tomorrow, if it arrives.
Be well, and hold your loved ones close.
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
Good morning still"not dead" UFS. That intro always
reminds me of a T-shirt a friend once gave me, tie-dyed with dancing bears and skeletons and maybe an "eat-your-face" skull bearing the test "Am I DEAD Yet?"
We'll see how restrained the Rus are. They could, upon the first attack, launch all out war against the US and NATO, but perhaps they'll just waste every port, airport and interior railway and highway in Ukiedom so as to render the weaponry undeliverable.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
I'm certainly hoping for the latter.
They have been taking their time to date. But with that escalation, they would do well to prophylactically frag the launch sites, toot sweet. They can't let that go unanswered.
Then Biden will reach out and touch them with something bigger, in a mad frenzy of pointless dick-swinging.
When they do finally decide to nuke us, one of the first detonations, if not the very first, will be at an altitude of some miles directly overhead here in Denver. We have the honor here of being the uplink capital of the nation: a truly massive fraction of satcom and terrestrial comms originate/terminate here, since we're pretty much in the middle of the continent, and are well above a good fraction of the atmosphere.
A nice high multi-megaton EMP burst will polish off not only the terrestrial comms and a bunch of the power grid, but also waste the majority of the satellites that are above the horizon. After that C3 disruption, they'll be able to just hunt-and-peck until whatever goals they have are achieved. And we'll be doing the same. It'll take maybe 3 hours, tops.
You know that scene in "Fail Safe", when Henry Fonda's President listens to the phone his wife is holding melt? Kinda like that.
I am now hoping that the Pentagon has a few military professionals who will refuse to follow illegal orders. I can easily see Biden deciding to do a first strike, just for shits and grins...
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
I think ATACMS can be fired from mobile launchers,
so there are no hard sights to take out. Not to be upstaged, the Brits and french both authorized deep strikes with their respective variants of the Storm Shadow, which I think is air launched. If it were me, I would take out every damn airport in the country that could theoretically handle any plane that could theoretically launch them.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Trump and his crew will save the day. LOL
Good afternoon, humphry, thanks for the video
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
I wonder if the same group was responsible for this?
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/08/15/ukraine-behind-nord-stream...
https://apnews.com/article/finland-germany-data-communications-cable-9b2...
Oh good, glad they have that figured out
joke is on us again
does anyone believe
this BS? Guess it doesn't
matter who believes the lies
they will broad cast it anyway.
Ahh, well,
it was probably just some oil tanker that decided to run out all 10 shots of their anchor rode while proceeding whereeverwards at 20 knots, just to make it easier for the crew to repaint the shackles while they haul it. As one does, of course. Routine. All in a day's work.
Nothing to see here- move along... (;-)
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
Heh, since the first one is BS, what's the probability
that the second one is too. Lacking that, what's the odds for a false flag?
Or, heh, is that what you are asking?
be well and have a good one.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Monday Monday
Hi all, Hey EL!
Hope all is well all over the place.
Thanks for the OT, history, and great sounds EL!
Bird report: I am sure these are in ebird, and on local yahoo groups lists like East Bay Birds or North Bay Birds... Mount TRASHmore, which I think is the landfill near or in Livermore had a SMITH'S and 2 Lapland Longspur I think Fri. and Sat., as well as a SNOW BUNTING! The longspurs were not seen yesterday, the bunting was, but was said to be a ton of people looking and may have been too many around.
Would probably not care to admit how many landfills and sewage facilities I have been to, looking for birds. Unless she is a hardcore birder, definitely not 'first date' places though.
On a personal note... I have a vision problem which has rendered the gray text which seemingly isde riguer now, just about invisible. I think OtC brought this up a couple months ago. I would score most text I am seeing is a 2 or 3 on the Kodak Gray Scale. That is 20 or .30 percent black. Far less than medium gray. Going against years of Graphic Arts study and a decade of design profession experience. Would we do this to speed limit signs? Not if we wanted them seen and easily read.
Thought I'd go get glasses a few weeks ago, turned out cataracts, and appointment next week for first step . Meanwhile I can barely read the web for the most part. Hence my scarcity hereabouts lately.
Be well all!
happy trails!
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
Definitely...
get your cataracts fixed. I did it a couple of years ago and I was amazed about the difference it made. I walked around for a couple of weeks looking and pointing at things like I was seeing the world for the first time. It was kind of comical for others to watch.
Heh. Thanks Dysto. Mount trashmore is the old Hayward
landfill, currently part of the East Bay Regional Park open space at the foot of Winton. There was a trip down there to look for longspurs Friday conducted by the Ohlone Audubon Societym but my wife and I had to take a pass. Damn it.
Here at the house, in the past 2 -3 weeks we've had FOS Robin, Butterbutt and Townsend's Warbler.
Sorry about your cataracts. I've got some too, but not yet bad enough to operate on.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Best of luck with treatment
I could be mistaken, but I had cataracts prematurely, as a result of truck driving a long time back, even though I wore UV prescription frames. My eyes were basically burned. I lost my night vision first with the characteristic dazzle from lights, that degrades vision at night.
Unfortunately, doctors treat this surgery as "routine." The surgeon I went to, literally did the "procedure" in 20 minutes, with three OP operating rooms going simultaneously to generate maximum cash returns. .
There was a series of adverse consequences from the surgery which I won't go into. Fortunately, my vision was correctable with glasses but the swelling in and around my left eye had been so extreme it actually changed my facial appearance. I had researched this doctor beforehand, his credentials, law suits, and didn't anticipate the series of problems I experienced. After a time, I was still able to pass the eye exam and drive a truck afterwards to pay the bills, so all's well that ends well, i guess.
I get all my eye care and other unrelated treatment at the VA now. The medicare advantage plan I have is worthless imo. A scam.
Good luck, Dystopian. Most people as I understand it, have an uneventful surgery and recovery. Wishing you the best.
語必忠信 行必正直
Haven't seen or read
anything regarding the Houthi attack on two US warships, one of which was damaged enough to have to be towed out to
sea. This follows an attack on the USS Abraham Lincoln on Nov. 12th.
Cannot find any additional info.
The Red Sea has become a no-go zone for both Israeli bound commercial shipping and US/British warships.
Thanks for the OT.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.