Saturday Open Thread - 10/12/24: Odds and Ends

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 8:08am

Time for some nonsense and some solid news and current events contributions from my friends on the site.

Let us start with the nonsense, to get it out my system and off my ass, as you will see.

I have commented many times about about clothing made of 100% cotton, linen, silk, and wool. I advocate it. And yet, gotta baby it when you do score some quality stuff.

Take those undies I bought. 100% cotton, like I have bought maybe 40 years. Wore them. Dreamy comfort. Then, after washing them, I dried them in the dryer, like I have for 50 years. Suddenly, I find myself in what feels like a girdle. Sitting in court, bound like some woman from the 50s trying to get attention by forcing a waistline to be what it really isn't.

A cotton fail!!!

One more song about cotton sung by one of the greatest voices the US ever produced, despite he was a "dirty commie" according to the MSM and government at the time:(admission: I can't listen to this without crying. I am overwhelmed by everything in the film clip. Music, personality, history, truth.)

*This came to mind as I spoke with a new client, a black woman in her 70s, that happened to pick cotton on Dad's field right along side me when we were kids. It cuts fingers to the bone to pull out the cotton pods. Go slow, be careful. Her daughter had no idea what we were talking about. Progress!

As always, when I put my OT together, it is Friday night, knowing something will happen as I sleep.

I will have sweet dreams, and awaken to the nightmare of war, and more war as we comment Saturday morning.

Quality of life might suddenly dwindle, but I would live to think we will survive if we sort of think ahead.

Let's chat over coffee and throughout the day, stay connected, and share ideas, friends.

Your turn! This is an open thread open to everything while that is still possible!

Let 'er rip!

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Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 8:24am

Good morning, good people!

The morning headlines say the death count in Florida is 17. My heart goes out to their families and friends.
Our family friend is safe, but it remains to be seen if his home was destroyed. It remains to be seen when our own soryang can go home.
Well, let's see what's on your minds today, friends.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by Lookout on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 10:27am

Good morning...

A cool one here. Had to wear a jacket at Trade Day. Got some grocery shopping done as well. Gas was $2.35 in town today. The cheapest I've seen in a while. Might be a tax suspension after Helene to help get folks back on their feet.

Cut worms got a few of my broccoli plants while we were gone. Bought some replacements today, and will get them in the ground this evening.

Looks like a big war will be avoided at least until after the election, but really no telling what will happen. I'm still looking for western mischief during the BRICS+ meeting in less than a couple of weeks.

The Duran is saying Ukraine has lost favor given the Israeli aggression in Lebanon. We'll see.
U.S. phases out project Ukraine (27 min)

Take care friends. Thanks for the OT!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 11:54am

A jacket?

@Lookout I remember those!
We are in a heatwave until Thursday. Tuesday's high is predicted to be 93 deg., Wednesday's is 79 deg. Oddly, 0% chance of rain.
Damn cut worms! At least they know to eat a healthy diet, amirite?
Gas prices are at $2.70, on average, so Alabama has the State where Big Oil rules beaten. Go, Alabama!
I have had an uneasy feeling about a war being declared and elections being suspended. I will be so glad when the votes are counted, not that the results will improve our lives.
Thanks for bringing us a video to watch. The Duran seems to be right and well ahead of the media routinely.
Have fun in the holler this weekend, and get the broccoli in the ground.
Always good to see ya, dear friend!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 10:40am

Her ‘speech writers hate her' takes the lead

pic.twitter.com/rE1XgzSySJ

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 11, 2024

I’ve been debating whether she is just stupid or her speech writers hate her because she says word salads over and over….but seeing her repeat the same words….

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“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 11:39am

I do not understand

@snoopydawg what that means, or the point she is trying to make.
Is it just me?
She would do well to place her hands in her lap while sitting, and by her side when talking. Some innocent person might get to close and get a tooth knocked out.
How in the hell did we get stuck with her heading the ticket?
Caveat: criticism of her should not be taken as support for Trump.
Give my client a doggie treat for me, chica!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by Marie1 on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 12:21pm

A head scratcher

@on the cusp
"How in the hell did we get stuck with her heading the ticket?"

She didn't even make it to the 2020 Iowa caucus. And Iowa Democratic caucus participants aren't exactly the most discerning of voters. Not Trump won in 2020 and the bottom of a ticket is hardly ever relevant.

Obama and Hillary like her. After securing the 2024 nomination for the mentally addled one, the Democratic elites executed a switcheroo that in the past would have outraged voters. Would have been harder to pull of if Trump weren't still leading the GOP.g

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 12:30pm

Obama really, really liked Her,

@Marie1 but didn't pull it off.
How does he and Her hold such power and influence? At this juncture, both are pretty much despised by the average voter.
Strange times, chica. Very strange.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by Marie1 on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 3:57pm

Obama and the Clintons have

@on the cusp
a permanent in with a large number of the multibillionaires. A large portion of them would have struggled to become multimillionaires without the economic policies of Hill-Bill-Barack. They want more of the same and are happy to pay for hoodwinking voters. The other team favors a different set of multibillionaires invested in screwing over the people.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 1:23pm

It did outrage shitlibs

@Marie1

.but then they got swept up in joy, joy, joy and they fell for the cawdswap hook, line and sinker just like the good little idiots they are. I watched it happen in real time after the debate that showed how Biden’s brain wasn’t working. At first they were pissed that he was being taken out….then "Hey look! JOY"

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“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt

Submitted by Marie1 on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 3:59pm

No empathy from me for any

@snoopydawg
Democrat that ever voted for Biden. He's been screwing them over for decades.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 1:19pm

I have no idea either what the F she’s saying

@on the cusp

but obviously she thinks it’s her greatest statement ever so she keeps saying it, but with more dramatization. I especially love how she over dramatizes with her hand to her heart and makes what she thinks are puppy dawg eyes. Blehh!

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“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 1:46pm

It gives RWNJs convulsions

@snoopydawg to hear it, since is very, very close to a Karl Marx quote. Her dad was a Marxist, but I seriously doubt she was ever capable of comprehend his theories.
How she passed the California state bar exam is a mystery to me. In the 70s,80s, and 90s, it was the most difficult bar exam in the US.
Oh, well, here we are in the now.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by Marie1 on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 4:03pm

Perhaps she had more marbles

@on the cusp
when she took the bar exam and graduated from Hastings Law School. Only explanation that I can come up with.

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 4:15pm

Maybe if she does have

@Marie1 a drinking habit as rumored, she has a bit of wet brain.
The present day Harris is not the person I imagine could try a case, write a brief, argue before an appellate court. Just no way.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by Cassiodorus on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 11:37am

This really brought a smile to my face

(You only have to watch the beginning -- Kit Cabello repeats himself a lot.)

Omigod! How could they possibly vote for an anti-genocide candidate!

(Hint to those who really want to argue the point: if a vote for Stein were really a vote for Trump, would we be living in a democracy? Of course not.)

What's important, you see, is that you vote for a historically-bad continuation of historically-bad foreign policy. It's like Kamala Harris herself said: the Biden administration is a transformative administration. (The problem, of course, is one of what sort of transformation we are talking about, here. Let's start with the United States' vast reduction in standing among the community of nation-states.)

Last weekend I briefly met with Justin Filip. Filip is running for Congress in Oregon's 4th Congressional District. Of course you haven't heard of Filip! Not only does he labor under a media blackout, he's being censored on social media. It all started with COVID, of course, but it didn't stop there, so now you have ham-fisted attempts to censor social media across the board.

So what's the panic about?

Vote for the woman who never won a delegate in any Dem primary and who is in the position she's in because Obama threatened to use the Twenty-Fifth Amendment on Biden. Do it to "save democracy." And so we are being asked to vote for one of Biden's appointees instead of Biden.

For those with no historical memory: Hitler was appointed, and by a "lesser-evil" candidate at that.

But let's be clear here. Dictator or democracy? It's dictator, and the dictator is already in power right fkn now. Democracy would be legitimizing the Green Party instead of having them censored on social media.

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"Forget the lesser evil -- fight for the greater good." - Jill Stein

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 12:02pm

If Filip is being blacked out,

@Cassiodorus he must be advocating some great policies. We can't have those, Cass.
In my mind, voting for Stein is my personal expression of my preference for the office of President. No more, no less.
It is interesting to discuss democracy, even if it is a theoretical goal, and stands no chance of being thhe reality.
We all appreciate the good reads and videos that you bring to the fore.
Thanks, pal.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 12:11pm

Just a fun comparison chart of the

past of my early adult life and the present:

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by usefewersyllables on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 1:00pm

Too

@on the cusp

real, mon. Too real…. Full marks!

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Twice bitten, permanently shy.

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 1:11pm

No shit, Mon!

@usefewersyllables Have a fun weekend, friend!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by dystopian on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 12:19pm

Hi oddsters,

Hi all, Hi OtC,

Pretty bad when the crapification has hit cotton undies! What has become of America? I wonder if gas or electric dryer makes difference (besides GAS yellowing whites) with our brave new cotton? Air dry is best, but not outside with undies.

Just thinking about what could be, unburdened by what has been... So unburdened by the five-star cluster F!'s of Libya, Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria, I dreamnt of what could be in Ukraine, Gaza, and Lebanon.

And oh yeah, also unburdened by what has been Vicky Nulard has been appointed to the National Endowment for ~~Coups~~ Democracy, executive board of Coup Directors. I presume she passed out cookies.

anyhow anyway, I think it is Astronomy Day? I posted this link last night, but in case any missed it, bunch of new ones anyway from last night... current auroras have been off the charts incredible... at bottom go back to second page too...
https://spaceweathergallery2.com/index.php?title=aurora

astronomy music...

Astronomy Domine - PF

Astronomy - BOC

Master of the Unvierse - Hawkwind

Symptom of the Universe - the acoustic break for end is heavenly, alone people do not believe it is Sabbath. whole album is peak Bill Ward drums Saw the tour for this album...

happy trails all!

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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 12:50pm

Well, with my luck,

@dystopian using a clothes line would bring on the birds, and true crapification.
In the country here, we are so remote, hanging underwear to dry on the line would offend nobody, even if they were the weird, adult-fun type.
(Not that I have tried it, Mr.)
Can't wait to read up all the aurora news! Exciting event, huh?
And good sounds? All in 1 comment? How cool is that, friend!
Nulard not only doesn't go away, but her power and prestige is always upward, time and time again.
I do think we are closing the book on Ukraine, but that just gives us new focus on the Middle East and China. The torture will continue until morale improves, iirc.
Have a great weekend, and let it be bird-filled, friend!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by lotlizard on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 2:05pm

Thought we solved that textile shrinkage problem a long time ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanforization

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 2:42pm

That was then.

@lotlizard Profit margins do not allow for time, labor costs, and fast-track assembly and shipping, no doubt. We can't have nice things.
I have also noticed a slight shrinkage in cotton clothing, but nothing as extreme as that package of Hanes panties!
Along those lines, I just read an explanation of food product codes. Organic is 9xxx. It means, there is limited chemical usage in prossessing when the code begins with a 9.
Limited is better than unlimited, and it is really, really "organic" and good for you.
I hope Germany is not as goofy as America, and sure hope you have a great weekend, friend!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by QMS on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 3:41pm

preparation is a good approach

.
today, started both gensets and ran for an hour or so
(had been about 6 months), changed the oil in the tractor,
moving wood onto the covered deck and generally getting
ready for whatever comes our way. Can't control the geopolitical
madness, but can try to secure the little perimeter here. Now it's
steak and garlic smashed taters time as a small reward. Cheers!

Thanks for the OT OTC!

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truth is considered foreign influence, world peace is a threat to national security

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 4:49pm

Damn! What time is dinner?

@QMS Prep for weird weather is essential. Period. We got caught slightly off guard by Tropical Storm Beryl. Its' severity was underestimated. My office went dark for the first time in a weather event since 1986. The outage came in 2 spurts. Before food thawed, the lights came on for 8 hours after the first outage. That kept the food ok until they came on again after the second outage. We have a propane stove, a propane grill, and we had all equipment maintained, all vehicles gassed up, although the gas cans had not been filled.
When I retire and sell the office property, I will invest in a generator.
Milton has pushed Helene to the back of the bus, hasn't it?
I read that First Responders in NC have seen so many dead bodies floating by, caught in trees, and on and on, that they are suffering from mental health issues. Those folks will never be the same and never forget what the witnessed.
So far, Milton destroyed property, but the population came out of it fairly unscathed.
Damage assessments to property in NC, TN, and the areas of WY that were destroyed by wild fires is being done by the same company, a company owned by Vanguard and Blackrock. I expect that all areas atop minerals, such as lithium in NC, or gold in WY, to be pronounced forever unlivable, but capable of being mined.
Well, you were "such a good boy", as I express to my Dear One and all puppies, you deserve your gourmet meal, and a fantastic weekend, dear friend!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 4:52pm

Moon of Alabama

is saying Israel is getting hesitant to attack Hizb or Iran.
Hezb apparently discovered how the IDF could locate people, and changed their communications system. Also, Iran may have busted the codes for IDF radar, and damaged a radar base.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/10/hizbullah-iran-put-more-pressure-o...

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 5:08pm

Then do something

This is Iran's 56-bed field hospital on the Syria-Lebanon border after it was brutally targeted in an Israeli airstrike.

The attack destroyed ambulances and all medical equipment inside the facility. pic.twitter.com/m5YiP6bwCj

— Press TV (@PressTV) October 11, 2024

Stop letting Israel bomb Lebanon and killing civilians. Instead of complaining about what Israel is doing now and has been for a year start doing something about it. Good grief they’re threatening a massive attack against your country so keep them from doing it.

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“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 5:34pm

They are between a rock and a hard spot.

@snoopydawg One wrong move, and they will be at war with the US.
We shall see.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 5:59pm

Maybe….

@on the cusp

But how many more civilians need to be slaughtered before Iran steps up and defends its allies? Israel bombs Syria at will and what is Russia doing about it? Hell they bombed close or on a Russian base and still nothing happened. The building they bombed was full of humanitarian aid that Iran had just sent there.

Hospitals are off limits and yet Israel has destroyed almost every hospital in Gaza, it’s bombing hospitals in Lebanon and now this Iranian hospital.

I hope this message gets heard.

"This is not a humanitarian crisis, Kate, and I'm going to say it very clearly for your viewers to hear: This is genocide [...] Media agencies will have reckon with their major role in the genocide." -- Dr. Tanya Haj-Hassan to CNN pic.twitter.com/PTVSe0lOFY

— Omar Baddar (@OmarBaddar) October 11, 2024

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“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 6:24pm

Well,

@snoopydawg the only way the US can defeat Iran is with nukes.
Which side blinks if, indeed, Iran has nukes like we insist.
I figure you weren't born in the time of the Cuban Crisis. We were close. Very close. I remember it well.
Still, I believe Iran and Turkey need to do something, not to mention Egypt, Jordan, the Emirates, and Saudi Arabia.
Why Palestinians are the mutts of the Arab world is beyond my knowledge. It appears Lebanese rate as mutts, as well.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 7:10pm

Biden is supporting Israel’s attack on Lebanon

@on the cusp

Smirkula admitted that already and here’s more confirmation. We’re going for regime change.

https://thecradle.co/articles/prepare-for-post-hezbollah-phase-us-envoy-...

'Prepare for post-Hezbollah phase' US envoy tells Lebanon as Israeli massacres intensify
The US is seeking to install a new government in Beirut friendly to Washington and Tel Aviv amid Israel's ongoing massacres

US Ambassador to Lebanon Lisa Johnson has asked political forces in the country to “prepare for the post-Hezbollah phase, where its control over the state and its institutions and the state’s border crossings is no longer permitted.” Al-Akhbar reported on 11 October.

She reiterated that “Hezbollah has become very weak after the strikes that were directed at it, targeting its leaders and killing its Secretary-General, and therefore, it can no longer impose what it wants, and there is a new political phase that the country will witness soon in which the party has no place.”

Lebanon should kick her buttocks out and close the American embassy. Why the hell should they allow it in when it’s planning on meddling in their government?

Gawd the hubris!

US State Department spokesman Ned Price stated in a press briefing on 9 October that the US no longer supports such a ceasefire. He said the US supports Israeli efforts to continue the war and that Hezbollah must comply with UN Resolution 1701, which says the resistance movement should withdraw from the Israeli border area to positions behind the Litani River.

Hey, Ned how about making Israel comply with all the UN resolutions that it has been ignoring for decades? Israel’s poo stinks too.

We’ve been living under the sword of Damocles for 3 years, but no one has loaded the planes yet. America is doing another nuclear war game just outside Russia again. Russia has had its nuclear forces on alert for 3 years because they never know if the games are cover for a nuclear attack.

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“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 7:20pm

Good grief!

@snoopydawg I will read the Cradle article after I eat.
Thanks!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 6:57pm

Ritter and Nima

talking about the Middle east situation, focusing on the tensions between Iran and Israel, and, of course, nukes. 51 minutes.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 10:05pm

Oh goody….

American troops being sent to defend Israel.

https://sputnikglobe.com/20241012/us-deploys-thaad-system-in-israel-amid...

I’m sure Biden has gotten approval for this from congress…I’m also sure that if he asked them for they would approve.

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“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 10:20pm

Prepare the appropriate number

@snoopydawg and size for the coffins, and make no mention of their return to the US in the MSM.
Boy, oh boy.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 10:26pm

Heh…

@on the cusp

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“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 10:36pm

Great meme!

@snoopydawg Apparently I am not the only one thinking US soldiers in Israel are sitting (then dead) ducks!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 10:35pm

Like the article says…

…she should have to go to the front line and see how she likes what she has wrought.

https://sputnikglobe.com/20241012/americans-believe-the-ned-fairy-tale-n...

“So, yeah, she's going to continue to wield influence there and it's a prestigious appointment for her after all the havoc and horror she's caused all around the world. So, it sends a terrible signal [to] those who adopt these kinds of warmongering policies that's the way to get ahead in Washington,” the author explained.

Nuland is losing her neck just like Hillary is. They look like frogs sitting in chairs.

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“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/12/2024 - 10:41pm