09/16 Open Thread - El Grito de Dolores
~~ El Grito - Mexican Independence Day
On September 16, 1810, in Dolores Nuevo España (now Dolores HIdalgo, Mexico) at about 2:30 am, Father Miguel Hidalgo y Costilla had the bell of the local parish church rung, gathered the populace and delivered the pronunciamento that triggered the Mexican War of Independence from Spain. Though the exact text of the pronunciamento is unknown, its purpose and effect were revolutionary, and the revolution was on. This pronunciamento is known as el Grito de Dolores. It was not a quick revolution, taking roughly a decade, but, in the end, Mexico was free from Spain. Don Hidalgo is treated as the father of his country, The Grito has come to symbolize Mexican independence which is celebrated on September 16
On this day in history:
In 1620, Pilgrims set sail for the mouth of the Hudson River from Plymouth, England, in the Mayflower
In 1810 Father Miguel Hidalgo y Costilla delivered the Grito de Dolores
In 1822, Augustin-Jean Fresnel, reported a direct refraction experiment verifying David Brewster's hypothesis that photoelasticity (as it is now known) is stress-induced birefringence.
In 1893, wannabe settlers, speculators, grifters, boomers and others made Oaklahoma's fourth and largest land run to grab up lands in the Cherokee Outlet.
In 1955, a Soviet submarine became the first to launch a ballistic missile.
In 1959 the world's first successful copier, the Xerox 914, was introduced. We could've ended the cold war and destroyed the Soviet Union quite inexpensively had we simply thught to ship thusands of these units, for free, to Russia and all of the other soviet states, but it never did occur to us.
In 1966 The Metropolitan Opera House opened at Lincoln Center in New York City
In 1975 Papua New Guinea gained independence from Australia.
In 1982, the Sabra and Shatila massacre was committed. Roughly 3,500 Palestinian and Lebanese civilians were slaughtered by Phalangist militiamen with the knowledge and tacit approval of the IDF.
In 1987, the Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer was signed. As a result, it is projected that the hole in the ozone layer above Antarctica will be restored to its 1980 condition by at least 2070. If anybody is still here at that time, will they please check it to see. Thanks.
In 1990 the railroad between the PRC and Kazakhstan was completed at Dostyk.
In 1992, Manuel Noriega, a CIA asset who had been on the CIA payroll off and on, was convicted and sentenced to 40 years for activities conducted entirely within his own country. This was a warning to the entire world that the US considered that it could pass laws in the US that would apply to and be enforceable against foreign persons for actions within their own country that were legal or undetected witghin their own country. The rest of the world has ignored the implications of this to their detriment. Essentially, this doctrine means that we are the supreme law for the entire globe barring armed resistance from the victims
In 2007, mercenaries employed by the US via their direct employer, Blackwater Worldwide, shot and killed 17 Iraqi civilians without provocation in Nisour Square, Baghdad. This was treated as a big deal and some of the mercenaries were eventually tried by the US, even though our military had been slaughtering great numbers of Iraqi civilians pretty continuously since March 2003. IT is suspected that the trial of these persons, like the continuing persecution of Chelsea Manning was to deflect attention from the fact that the Bush regime was guilty of war crimes from the top down.
Some people who were born on this day:
A vitamin is a substance that makes you ill if you don't eat it.
~~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
1844 – Paul Taffanel, flute player and conductor
1846 – Anna Kingsford, author, poet, and activist
1880 – Alfred Noyes, author, poet, and playwright
1881 – Clive Bell, philosopher and critic
1886 – Jean Arp, sculptor and painter
1893 – Albert Szent-Györgyi, physiologist and biochemist
1898 – H. A. Rey, author an illustrator
1915 – Cy Walter, pianist
1916 – Marie Vieux-Chauvet, writer
1919 – Andy Russell, singer and actor
1921 – Jon Hendricks, singer, and songwriter
1921 – Korla Pandit, pianist and composer
1922 – Janis Paige, singer and actor
1925 – Charlie Byrd, singer and guitarist
1925 – B.B. King, singer, songrwrier, and guitarist
1931 – Little Willie Littlefield, singer, songwriter, and pianist
1934 – Ronnie Drew, singer, songwriter, and guitarist (Dubliners)
1934 – Dick Heckstall-Smith, saxophonist
1935 – Billy Boy Arnold, singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1940 – Hamiet Bluiett, saxophonist and composer
1941 – Joe Butler, singer, drummer, and autoharp player
1942 – Bernie Calvert, bass and keyboards player
1944 – Betty Kelly, singer
1948 – Ron Blair, base player
1948 – Kenney Jones, drummer (who knew?)
1953 – Earl Klugh, musician
1954 – Frank Reed, singer and songwriter
Some people who died on this day:
Song is like the fire that washes the stones, the wind that cleans us, like the fire that joins us together and it lives within us to make us better people.
~~ Victor Jara
1498 – Tomás de Torquemada, friar
1672 – Anne Bradstreet, colonial poet
1925 – Alexander Friedmann, physicist and mathematician
1973 – Víctor Jara, singer, songwriter, teacher, martyr, and theatre director
1976 – Bertha Lutz, feminist and scientist
1977 – Maria Callas, opera singer
1984 – Richard Brautigan, author, Charlie
2003 – Sheb Wooley, singer, songwiriter, actor, voice actor
2005 – Gordon Gould, physicist
2008 – Norman Whitfield, songwriter and producer
2009 – Mary Travers, singer and songwriter
2011 – Willie "Big Eyes" Smith, singer, songwriter, harmonica player, and drummer
2016 – Edward Albee, playwright and director
Some Holidays, Holy Days, Festivals, Feast Days, Days of Recognition, and such:
El Grito de Dolores (Mexico)
International Day for the Preservation of the Ozone Layer
Trail of Tears Commemoration Day
Today's Tunes
El Grito de Dolores
Alfred Noyes
Charlie Byrd
B.B. King
Little Willie Littlefield
Ronnie Drew
Dick Heckstall-Smith
Billy Boy Arnold
Hamiet Bluiett
Joe Butler
Bernie Calvert
Betty Kelly
Ron Blair
Kenney Jones
Earl Klugh
Víctor Jara
Sheb Wooley
Norman Whitfield
Mary Travers
Willie "Big Eyes" Smith
Ok, it's an open thread, so it's up to you folks now. So what's on your mind?
Cross posted from http://caucus99percent.com
open thread, El Grito, Alfred Noyes, Charlie Byrd, BB King,Torquemada, Victor Jara, Sheb Wooley, Mary Travers
Comments
Monday Monday
Hi all, Hey EL!
Thanks for the OT and history! Viva Mexico!
A couple great items regarding bird (and other animal) patronymic name change proposals.
I think this is the best take on the patronymic eponyms, absolutely brilliant.
COPE address Rohan Pethiyagoda 6 Oct 2023 = 10 min.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLMY-rw1yA0
(Sri Lankan biodiversity scientist Rohan Pethiyagoda responds to the Western scientific elites who demand that science should be 'decolonized', arguing that their zeal amounts to little more than the hypocritical 'virtue signalling' of luxury beliefs that have little to do with the real imperatives of the post-colonial world)
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(whose flesh?)
The Flesh-footed Shearwater namechange case
BTW, most plastic-poisoned species ???????? Plasticosis????
https://phys.org/news/2024-09-scientists-bird-problematic.html
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Fairly dead for birds here right now. Migratory breeders have almost all departed, fall migrants have hardly shown up, so a tweener time of doldrums, at 95f daily still. Need that first front of fall.
happy trails all!
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
Rohan's COPE address should be required viewing
for vast swathes of the populace, starting with academics, arguably, all of them, because the non-whites among them might well be inspired to make a movement out of it.
Repeated here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLMY-rw1yA0
be well and have a good one
PS the comment below was supposed to be a reply to you, I'll try to convert it, but I doubt that will work.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
@enhydra lutris Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the video. On our trips to Africa, especially Kruger National Park, there is a bird, the Bateleur. It was named this because it flight sometimes resembles a tight rope walker. About 15 year ago, there were several bird names changed for many of the reasons mentioned in the video. To this day, I still call it the Bateleur .
Life is what you make it, so make it something worthwhile.
This ain't no dress rehearsal!
When I did my preparatory bird familiarization for our
Kenya trip I was impressed by the pictures of the Bateleur and hoped to spot one, but no luck. Awesome bird.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Good morning Dysto, there is a facet of corporate culture
that somehow instinctively views change as improvement, and if somebody wants to look useful, they rename things or invent useless processes and documentation. Add that to overly aggressive and extreme wokeness and you get all this "rename all the birds shit". That will for sure lead to things like "white tailed kite" for a nearly all-white bird or "streaky little big-beak" for some random sparrow.
Flesh-footed shearwater reminds me of a long=ago cover for Cal's humor magazine, The Pelican. Glossy colored photo of some black dude with one of Band-Aid's then recently introduced "Flesh colored" bandages stuck to his cheek. I'll have to find a picture.
be well and have a good one
looks like it worked
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Not sure what he said but (as I don't speak Spanish) but the
crowd seems to like it.
Cool, thanks for posting that.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Wonderful, humphrey!
I met lots of indigenous people who protested, eventually got AMLO elected on my last trip to Mexico.
A great man.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Howdy el, thanks for the OT
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never heard of the gritto before,
but your selection of music is grande.
An unrelated question: have you ever had
to deal with a psycho before? Probably most
of us have at one point or another. Today was a
good example of "really odd" behavior with one
of my customers. Fortunately, my minor in psyche
delved into deviant behavior. The cultivated lies were
not difficult to recognize. Didn't slow me down, but has
put the job on a different trajectory. Ahh, nuts!
truth is considered foreign influence, world peace is a threat to national security
Heh, I've known a few nut-jobs, but only one that I
recall who might have been a certified psycho, and even he was probably just a crazy.
You'll find instances of Gritos throughout South and Central America, it simply means a shout or cry, but many our southern neighbors have had cries of revolt or calls to revolution.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
yeah, psychotic behavior is somewhat obvious
.
if one pays attention to facial tics
remember when scrub was pranced out
to announce the US economy crashed?
his eyes were darting back and forth like crazy
that was the second tell after the 9/11 lies
not sure if it falls under the umbrella of
sociopath or whatever, but Blinken has the
same look whenever he is put on a podium.
quite telling to anyone paying attention
truth is considered foreign influence, world peace is a threat to national security
Good afternoon, El, et. al.
One of the best tours I took was to Mexico. The locals were just a blast!
Seems like they find good reason to celebrate every single day.
I just might have a cervesa tonight and give Mexico a toast!
Thanks for the OT, dear friend.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
My pleasure, and I highly reccommend that toast.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --