OT WE 7 AUG 24 ~ Zap

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 5:27am

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You must thank the gods for art, those of us who have been fortunate enough to stumble
onto this means of venting our craziness, our meanness, our towering disgust.

-- Robert Crumb

I know there are several here that are of the age to remember underground comic mags.
Growing up in a small rural town, the occasional passing of such literature was prized.
Even before knowing what pot was, the comics struck my funny bone as being socially
incisive. Guess that is somewhat where my 'style' or sense of humor comes from?
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The subject came up this morning as 3 crows were strutting down the middle of the
street. The bunnies were scrambling for cover, and it reminded me of cartoonish
characters.

Not sure which one of the underground comix had depicted blacks as crows, but I think
we saw it at the drive-in (movie). It seemed really funny at the time. One of the crows was named Jim.
Was it Fritz the Cat?

Opening up the script to any and all. Show us what you got!

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 7:29am

Something different

A persiflage is on the protest movements of the 1960s. Its hero is the bold and sex-obsessed tom-cat Fritz the Cat, as created by the legendary underground artist Robert Crumb. Quitting university, Fritz the Cat wanders through the hash, Black Panther and Hell's Angels scenes to find to himself.

A satirical animation film by Ralph Bakshi based on Robert Crumb's comic strip. Fritz, a swinging college student cat, challenges the hypocrisy and violence of the 1960s society.

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Submitted by Lookout on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 8:38am

I remember The Zap comics well...

Interesting retrospective of Crumb's art sketchbook...

For those into comic art...

Keep on Trucking...and thanks for the OT

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 9:23am

Thanks for the sketchbook!

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another look into the wow of counter culture.

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Submitted by usefewersyllables on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 9:34am

Zap! Which calls for

a repost of my very favorite Vaughn Bode underground work. This sums up my mental state over the last couple decades pretty accurately...

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Submitted by Socialprogressive on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 10:47am

The Vaughn Bode

@usefewersyllables
brings back memories of Cheech Wizard and National Lampoon.

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Submitted by usefewersyllables on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 12:03pm

Oh, yeah.

@Socialprogressive

Cheech Wizard, Deadbone, Junkwaffel- I had a major collection of Bode works (hardcover and original magazine clippings) until our house burned down.

The most sad thing is that I still had the Cheech Wizard tee shirt I wore for most of my '80s gigs, until the fire. *That* hurt.

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 12:41pm

some things are irreplaceable

@usefewersyllables
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the fire sounds like a traumatic loss. Sorry.
Speaking of loss by fire, wonder whatever happened to
Hecate after the Paradise blaze?
Seemed a bit bitter towards the end.

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 10:19am

Good morning QMS et. al. Great comix, those were.

Furry Freak Brothers and Wonder Warthog come to mind, along with Mr. Natural. They were ubiquitous in the SF Bay Area back in the day.

The lady's question, of coursse, has no definitive answer, but You Tube controls have changed so I don't know if I'll get a link or an embed, so this is something of a test:

They've added a step or three, this is on edit:

be well and have a good one

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Submitted by on the cusp on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 10:50am

Good morning, QMS and friends!

In my tiny home town, we had a pharmacy that sold comic books. The pharmacists' wife was an elementary school teacher. The only comics sold were "Classics Illustrated".
Hadn't thought about them for years, so thanks for the memories!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classics_Illustrated
Thanks for the OT, dear friend!

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Submitted by Lookout on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 11:00am

Here's one for the Capt.

A Lifetime at Sea: Captain Hank and the Phoenix | Short Documentary (8 min)

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 12:33pm

Thanks for the boat vid

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realistic in the sense of a fouled anchor and storm warnings
it takes a special personality type to be enthused about life
adrift, good for the sense of freedom, not without anxious
periods. Just sold my boat, which is one less anchor to haul.

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Submitted by humphrey on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 11:17am

The tweet itself is dated but its contents still ring true today

I don't oppose Democrats because I'm on the same side as Republicans. I oppose Democrats because they're on the same side as Republicans.

— Gritty is the Way (@Gritty20202) February 8, 2021

Submitted by on the cusp on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 11:37am

Perfect.

@humphrey n/t

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Submitted by Sima on Thu, 08/08/2024 - 12:38am

Yes, Absolutely Perfect

@humphrey n/t

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

Submitted by JtC on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 11:43am

I used to have...

a large collection of underground comics and underground newspapers, The Chicago Seed, until back in the early 70s I let a friend borrow them. His mom found them and freaked out and into the garbage they went. I still have a small stack of both the comics and newspapers somewhere in storage. I need to find them.

Submitted by on the cusp on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 12:31pm

I had a huge collection

of comics and my brother had baseball cards. Like Mickey Mantle. They were in boxes in the attic. Dad bought a new home, sold the old home before we had cleaned out the attic. The buyers found the stuff in the attic, refused to give it back to us.
sigh...

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 12:52pm

Similar experience

@on the cusp
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when my dad sold his parents house, my sister and I were given about 15
minutes to run in and grab whatever we could carry. The whole kit and
caboodle sold at auction after that scramble. Ended up with a couple things
which I still have after all these years. Mementos with personal attachment.

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Submitted by on the cusp on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 1:06pm

Dad was not sentimental.

@QMS He didn't even give a shit about his medals from WWII. He had a German helmet, but left it behind after some move from one house to another.
We might have a little tin can of shrapnel removed from his body in a hospital in London after D-Day. He had sent it to his Mom, who tagged the can lid, "what the Germans gave Son".

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 2:30pm

I had a very small collection which did not survive

@on the cusp various forces, moves and such except an extreme few. One of those survivors is an issues of Berkeley's student humor mag, the Pelican. Band Aid brand bandages had somewhat recently introduced their new flesh colored Band Aid(tm) to great fanfare. The magazine cover had a black male student with a large one on his cheek, no text, just the pic.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Submitted by Marie1 on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 9:12pm

I'm not a collector,

@enhydra lutris
or a consumer of comic books, but somehow, I ended up with the first editions of the first three Zap Comix. Raunchy but some of them were funny. Carted them around for years without opening them. Disappeared on one of my moves. Don't know which one, but oddly enough those were moves that were packed and delivered by professional movers.

Submitted by Blue Republic on Thu, 08/08/2024 - 6:42am

Ack.

@on the cusp

I can see how you could relate to my post one time or other before about losing my mom's WWII vintage LA matchbook collection in a move...

I've had better luck hanging on to comics particular magazines and such - couldn't find my Mr. Natural or Buckaroo Banzai just now - but a few of the other survivors:

Howard the Duck.JPG
HT Sept. '77.JPG

Submitted by soryang on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 1:26pm

My experience mostly involved Marvel

...comics. When I went away to college, I left a collection of maybe two hundred or more of these comics which I had accumulated over several years in the attic of my parents home. It was mostly Spider Man, Hulk, Fantastic Four, Dr. Doom, etc. When I came back for summer, I went into the attic because I had learned that some of the older issues had become collector's items and somewhat valuable. LOL, my dear mother, who had a strong background in literature, philosophy and such, threw them away, regarding them as worthless trash. I was hard up for cash, and quite disappointed. I recall having read MAD in high school, and college as well, and she used to say, "how can you read that trash?" That just made me laugh. I'd tell her it was high brow social commentary, better than the NY Times magazine section, which was actually not too bad back then.

Much later, my son in his late teens became fascinated with underground comics, and would buy them whenever he had the opportunity. He and a friend, they both had art talent, would write and illustrate their own comics. I'll have to ask him if he still has any around, because I can't remember what they were about. I don't think they ever published one. My grand daughter and her friends apparently are putting together some short manga videos on line with some software. (they will be 9th graders soon). I'm showing my age because I'm not sure what they are about, but she's very creative.

Anyway, these are my fond associations with comics. I like this South Korean political cartoonist:

(Source- Jang Do ri, Park Soon-chan)
President Yoon Seok-yeol was hit in the back of the head by Japan's distorted textbooks as a result of the Korea-Japan summit. The Korean expression struck in the back of the head (twi tong soo) means the same thing as "stab in the back" to us. So Japanese school texts, maps and so on, still show Dokdo (Islets in the East Sea/Sea of Japan) as Japanese territory.

So at the same time the ROK Navy drills with US and Japanese naval forces, Japan still lays claim to Korean territory and maritime zones despite Yoon's repeated concessions to a US-Japan-South Korea tri-lateral "partnership" which includes military cooperation. In the latest "strike on the back of the head" from Japan, the UN adopts the Sado Mines as a world heritage historical site, without any prominent mention of the fact that it was a place where wartime Japan used Korean slave labor. The Yoon administration appeared to have done nothing to oppose this designation despite it being a place where human rights crimes were committed against Koreans. Yoon also unilaterally had repudiated a Korean Supreme Court ruling against Mitsui saying they had to pay reparations to slave labor victims in South Korea or their property in South Korea would be levied on.

The US establishment takes a positive view of these developments.

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Submitted by humphrey on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 2:50pm

Actions speak louder than disingenuous tweets.

Says the person who organized a consortium of hedge fund billionaires to create career blacklists for college students protesting the Israeli war in Gaza. https://t.co/be2rv0IyvZ

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) August 7, 2024

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 3:00pm

deflection, distortion and denial

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are the tricks these rich SOB's use to polish their fake postures.
Honesty and transparency are anathema. Who buys this BS?

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Submitted by dystopian on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 3:27pm

Howdy all,

Hi QMS,

Hope it's all good all over out there!

Zap Comix was held in high regard in my high school stoner circles... It was a rite of passage when you turned 18 to go to the head shop and buy one yourself!

Dr. Demento used to play this song by Robert Crumb and the Cheap Suit Serenaders

There was some great Mr. Natural blotter acid... They used a number of his images on the sheets.

Happy trails all!

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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 4:05pm

what was the image on zig-zag

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rolling papers boxes? Guy in profile with a sharp beard.
That was the image on the blots around here.

Heady daze.

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Submitted by dystopian on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 5:29pm

zig zag man

@QMS Hey Capt.!

Yeah I remember that stuff... I think it was just called 'zig zag man'. It was good too.

Here is one last ZAP! I saw him do this live, EJ is incredible.

happy trails!

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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 6:29pm

very cool, new one to me

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the guy really knows his way around the throat of the guitar
get Alvin Lee, SRV, maybe some Foghat all in one package!

thanks for that, lowers my BP's

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Submitted by dystopian on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 8:12pm

EJ is one of the best

@QMS Hey Capt.!

The first 3G tour was Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, and Eric Johnson. I saw it at the Hollywood Bowl! Saw EJ again later solo, about 2003 or so. Afterwhich I briefly spoke with him, most humble guy ever.

These are the first two songs he got known for... but recent live versions... A Via Musicom is the first album, that got known, the prior Electromagnets is great if you can find it... Buddy burnt me a copy.

Cliffs of Dover

Trademark

His song SRV is done in SRV style, Manhattan in N.Y., he does a great Geo. Harrison style piece too... All his Hendrix is especially awesome.

Another Texas phenom axe man...

P.S. A buddy said the blotter was called Mr. ZigZag. Got friends I can call for that...

be well bro!

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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 7:45pm

Le Zouave. n/t

@QMS

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 9:11pm

Ah, thanks

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now I get it. French for 'act the goat' or in other words behave wildly. Makes sense.

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Thu, 08/08/2024 - 9:40am

There's a legend behind it. Zouave's were a military

@QMS

force, light infantry from North Africa/Algeria with their own distinctive uniforms. Legend has it that one of them had his pipe shot out of his mouth and tore some paper from his ammo pouch and rolled a smoke in it leading to ze cigarette papers.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Submitted by Blue Republic on Wed, 08/07/2024 - 11:57pm