Open Thread - 10/10/23 - Surprise Odds and Ends
As of the time of the composition of this open thread, the US has not declared war, nor committed troops to a mobilization, but by the time it gets published in the morning, who the hell knows what we might do?
Bibi says the surprise Hamas attack is his "pearl Harbor" or his "9/11". Well, Bibi, do remember Pearl Harbor was known about in advance all the way up to President Roosevelt. And Bush had intel 9/11 was going to happen. So, drop "surprise" from your proclamations, or find some historic example of an attack that was actually a surprise, and use that as your comparison.
Well, gas prices should be rising sharply and soon. Shop monthly, not weekly, and start walking a lot. Or something. If you are old, if you are in hot weather, then
Would anyone disagree that 57 bullets fired into an unarmed protester of Cop City was overkill? Would anyone disagree that the troopers should be charged with murder? Does it sound like we are infiltrated by an army, given that cops have no duty to protect us? That is not in their job description. Cops just suck, and it is a miracle when one is actually prosecuted.
The Texas Hill Country is one of our favorite destinations. Last time we were there, we met a man who had purchased 120 acres near Johnson City. (Lyndon Johnson's home.) The Agricultural extension agent assessed his acreage would support 2 head of cattle. (My guess is that he wanted an agricultural exemption for his annual property taxes. Oopsies.) We drive over several rivers going there, and they are all dry, or near dry.
Last time we were there, we went to Albert Dance Hall in Albert, Texas to see this guy:
We will go see him again, same place, next month.
We have some rain and cool temperatures coming in a day or so. How is your weather? Is anybody where they should be on rain fall and temperature? Odd and creepy year, weather-wise.
I spent 12 hours this weekend attending class after class on guns, gun laws, both federal and state. Just saying, pot smokers are not eligible to buy a gun. Although, there's the Hunter Biden Defense. I have used it. It works.
In today's world, my parent's would have gone to prison for allowing my brother and I to use a firearm. My brother shot his first rabbit on the run when he was 5. I regularly packed a gun from age 7 when I went riding my horse out in the woods. Back then, it was food and self-defense parents thought about. They must think about staying out of prison now. Did kids just get goofy and irresponsible over the decades? Are there no kids you can teach to hunt for food? To kill a snake?
This is how I hope everyone on the site feels:
The crew doing home repairs are making typical carpenter racket, so I will turn it over to all of you, so let 'er rip! Make your own kind of noise!
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Good morning, everyone!
So far, no war has been declared, so the morning is getting off to a fine start.
Let's all keep earthling1 in our thoughts. Anyone of us could experience an unimaginable tragedy, and if all we can do is offer to just reach out to give a cyber hug, we should do it.
Group cyber hug, earthling1. There ya go.
So, what sayeth thou?
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Ahh so, Bibi and company are playing the old persecution card
It is difficult to feel sorry for an apartheid regime, IMO. It's like, how do you expect
a nation to respond when forced into the largest open air prison on earth? With their
lands being illegally stolen by "settlers", the Palestinians have every right to rebel.
Ain't buying what the MSM is selling. Talk to me.
Thanks for the OT!
question everything
Internet is hinky.
Be safe out there, Q.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Have I previously mentioned that
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Guns and Hunting
This morning I was visited by a doe with two fawns in my yard. I have also seen a lot more deer this year when driving. I believe it's because of more housing out here and most of the younger generations would rather shoot in video games than go hunting. I can't think of anyone I know who goes hunting anymore, mostly because everyone I know is old, disabled, or dead.
All that Israel/Hamas War business has been on the news nonstop. When stuff like this happens, I just turn off the TV. Those people have been killing each other for thousands of years and I expect they will just keep on until the last one is dead. You can only push people so far before they begin to fight back.
Oh Deers!
We have a few does and fawns that wander out of the woods to nibble on the grasses, ivy and
other gourmet plants occasionally. Fun to watch them! Had to chuckle the other day reading
an article in our local weekly about the serious threat deer have created in our area.
Residents are up in arms (not literally) and demanding towns remove this scourge!!
Come on man. Get a grip. Share your damn daisies with the wildlife. The last thing I want
to see are a bunch of cops thinning the herds with their service revolvers.
question everything
My Dad, Brother, and late husband (he died in 1998)
Now, I did want to give some deer a spanking when they ate my corn, destroyed my garden before I could get an electric fence up.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
spanking a white tail is a funny image
not sure they would stand for it?
no matter how sweet your corn
question everything
Well, I can
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
I do not watch TV
Have a great day!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Good morning...
Sorry to hear earthling has problems. Hope they are quickly resolved.
We're hoping for a rain tomorrow and again on Friday...both are iffy, but we need them both. The garden is doing well, but we're keeping it watered almost daily. Still picking peppers. We've put up more than a years worth so I give most of them away....beautiful reds, yellows, and greens...most are sweet but we have a few hot ones too. Still a few tomatoes coming in as well.
Trade day was busy this AM. Bought some more clamps. Realized I needed some more during a gluing project last week. Also bought some long bungees, lemons and avocados. Then went for the weekly grocery run, and dropped in the feed and seed. They had just gotten a shipment of broccoli seedlings, so I bought a couple of packs to set out this evening. That should fill out the fall garden. We still have sweet potatoes to dig, and then we'll get a load or two of horse manure to put on most of the garden and set it up to sleep for the winter.
Always something.
As to all the wars, at least at this time the US is saying there is no evidence Iran was involved. That's a good thing. Perhaps that escalation won't occur.
Hope you get through all your professional development BS without too much hassle. Thanks for the OT!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
earthling1 suffered the tragic loss of his son.
Great news on your garden, and we wish we were your close neighbors, just sayin'...
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Bibi and Hamas
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I have been asking if it’s true that Israel helped create Hamas and I found this today.
Meanwhile the world watches as Israel destroys Gaza and kills thousands of innocent civilians who had nothing to do with the Hamas attacks on Israel. And the fcking world knows that!
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
The IDF (Israel Defense Forces) are being reorganized
into the IOF (Israel Offensive Forces).
also~
Go to Sinai or remain under siege: Israeli ultimatum to Gaza
Meanwhile IOF has bombed the Palestine/Egypt border crossing 4 times.
How the hell do Gaza's people flee to Egypt when the crossing is being targeted?
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/go-to-sinai-or-remain-under...
question everything
Bibi covering his ass from war crimes
The world: “A million Palestinians are dead including 500,000 children!"
Bibi: "Hey I told them to leave before I started killing them."
The World: "Well okay then. We see that you gave them an option to live. Our bad."
Rubio: "It was a hard choice to make, but sometimes you have to crack a few eggs to make an omelet."
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
More on this
Seems clear that Israel does not want peace nor does America. And yet every time violence breaks out in the area it’s always the Palestinians that pays the price. Did you see how Israel was involved in the Armenian conflict? Where else are they meddling?
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Pretty slick.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
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Israeli settlers have been going into the 3rd most holy mosques while the police just watch. Rumor is that this is one of the reasons why Hamas acted. Someone said that it’s the equivalent of Muslims going into and taking over St. Peter’s square which is the holy place of Christians. Would the world tolerate that? I think not.
But if Bibi is working with Hamas is that the reason why the intelligence failed?
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Can't imagine X
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
It was CNN censors that let it be viewed
He totally blew up all the Israeli talking points.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
That is even more
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Interesting…
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Gilbert Doctorow
Tit for tat.
In Mate's tweet he posted tweets on how both Israeli and the Bush administration refused to make a deal with Hamas which is worth a read if you can. I’ll post it IF anyone is interested.
Biden left $80 billion worth of weapons, equipment and cash when he sloppily withdrew from Afghanistan and I recently saw pictures of the large amount of trucks that the Taliban have. No one has asked Biden why he was in such a hurry to withdraw from Afghanistan and why he moved up the timetable to do it and leave not only all the weapons and equipment, but many people who had been working with America. Was it so he could get his Ukraine war on?
Naked Capitalism has a lot of good stuff today.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Wow how did this get through the censors?
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* means that habeas corpus in Israel is just as dead as it is in America.
I guess I can imagine how the world would react if the Native American ethnic cleansing was happening today including the slaughter of millions of buffalo that they relied on to eat. It’s not just America that has 2 justice systems.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
WOW!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
No draft/ militarization just yet.
'Course, in the US, once the neocons drift into either 1) proposing a complete militarization of society in imitation of World War II (after having sold America on the notion that "supporting Ukraine is a good investment") or 2) a dramatic ramping-up of US war effort under the current encode-money-and-hand-it-to-the-rich dispensation in which "Western ammo stocks" are ostensibly "at bottom of the barrel" -- well, it won't be long after one of those events before there's an exposure of the criminality of the whole enterprise... say, wasn't Netanyahu going to be indicted for what I'm sure was one of his many crimes?
“When there's no fight over programme, the election becomes a casting exercise. Trump's win is the unstoppable consequence of this situation.” - Jean-Luc Melanchon
Isn't it comforting to know the Pentagon
generalsaccountants have suddenly figured out that:Oh, by the way, we have enough bombs and ammo to supply both
Ukie and Benji to fight our wars for us! Such a feeling of security.
And no boots on the ground! Except maybe a few sneakers in the sand.
Meanwhile aircraft carrier groups and C-135 transports are heading on
over to give our partners humanitarian aid. Such a nice organization.
It is so cost effective, according to the brass, the MIC is now in a position
to buy the rest of the world's political problems. That will show those darn
bricks animals who is in control. Heh.
question everything
Good morning otc, et. y'all. Thanks for the OT, ptc
My most sincere condolences to earthling1.
The current trouble is Palestine, like so much trouble that has preceded it goes directly back to London, England; the 1917 Balfour Declaration. A colonial power arbitrarily and capriciously deciding to rearrange a piece of the world in a most irrational manner simply because they could.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Seems the mistake
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
could and shoulda, but no way in hell it was gonna happen. n/t
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
It goes back a lot farther than that
Try the 1st-2nd century AD. "A colonial power arbitrarily and capriciously deciding to rearrange a piece of the world in a most irrational manner simply because they could" - is exactly what the Romans did. (There were also several other colonial powers performing arbitrary and capricious rearrangements between 136 and 1917.)
In rough and ready Wild West terms, that claim's been jumped so many times by so many people that there's no longer any way of proving who has the rights to what.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Arbitrary and capricious
As it was, so as it shall ever be.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
I sort of see Rome as cleaning the slate in coastal Med.
That leaves all the migrations and assorted kingdoms and sea people and such, the Byzantines, all the crusades and all that, assorted Arab and Turkic to and fro and then the Ottomans.
The Hebrews popped up out of nowhere in Canaan. There is no evidence and no record other than their own that they were ever in Egypt. They conquered Canaan from outside, probably the east or north, or were there already and seized control through some sort of revolt or were the Canaanites themselves and went through a cultural sea change and name change. Whatever, they were swept up or aside by Rome like and along with everybody else.
By WW I, that whole area was multicultural, multi-ethnic and polyglot. Then the Brits decided to give it all to one small faction. Before the Balfour fiasco, the population of that area seems to have pretty much been able to get along with each other, excepting the Ottomans.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Biden's Press Conference
Turned on the TV to watch General Hospital. It was a rerun again. Couldn't figure out why until they interrupted it with Biden going on about Israel. What did he say? I have no idea. His cottonmouth is getting so bad I could barely understand him and then I fell asleep within 5 minutes.
How can this man run for president? He can barely walk and barely talk. He's got to be taking a shitload of drugs to even function as good as he is.
Eventually their efficacy is going to run out
I’m betting that they save the good stuff that works better for when he sits for a long interview and he doesn’t get it every day because he becomes tolerant to them quickly. Just an uneducated guess, but pain meds work like that too.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
He probably fell asleep
We can't come up with a competent president, and we still think we are exceptional. Well, exceptionally stupid.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Poster image for dementia care fundraisers
this way, he is not to blame for those pulling the strings, cause he is not aware.
pretty obvious. an international joke are our leaders. without a teleprompter and
maybe the ability to read, he is burnt toast. exceptionally so
question everything
One image is Berlin 1945, one is Gaza Strip 2023
UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE
When will humanity become humane
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
looks like Berlin made out a bit better than Gaza
why take it out on the Arabs? They had nothing to do with your holocausts.
question everything
Nazi's being Nazi's
How can anyone explain how that happens?
It's the psychopath's filled with rage hate and ego
leading the people of the collective west to destruction
Syria has now bombed the Golan Heights, next....UFB
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
It was very telling about the tone of the conflict
when the Israeli minister spoke of the Palestines as being animals,
somehow justifying genocide. You got the psychopath right.
Somehow, Arabic people are considered less than human by the
conquerers. Therefore, they must make be removed to make room
for our 'real' people. unfknblvbl
question everything
I hope to see the video
Thanks for adding it to the thread. There are those among us who advocate killing everyone who doesn't look like them, or who were born in the "wrong" place. At least we know who they are.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Bibi says that all of Palestine belongs to Israel
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
What Bibi states means about as much
As Biden on a semi-good day. The colonization period is over.
This is a distraction away from the empire failure in Ukie.
Nothing more.
question everything
Land of Israel
My, my...the things you learn.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981