for disbelieving in the legitimacy of our social order. This account asserts that the authorities launched the Maui fire storm as an assault on the people who lived there. I've been through this already with respect to the Plandemic, and I have internalized the reality that the existing authorities are shameless liars pursuing a covert scheme to reshape civilization itself. This makes some friends and relatives regard me as crazy as hell and estranged from objective reality.
In turn, I say the same thing about them -- a very unpleasant situation that I wish I could have avoided. I firmly believe that this factor, rather than a lack of mental competence, accounts for the
lack of much opposition to the craziness running our society.
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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
The only consolation I have is that I have the firm believe the nature will pay back.I remember from years ago that Hawaii's goddess Pele was so pissed of with their humans on the island, she would throw a temper tantrum at her islands in habitants.
Pele is the Hawaiian volcano deity, an elemental force, and the creator of these volcanic landscapes. According to tradition, she is embodied by the lava and natural forces associated with volcanic eruptions.
I’m not looking for conspiracy theories. People are talking about what they are seeing there. And some important information about the history of the US taking Hawaii. It seems obvious that others didn’t either since no one answered the question I asked. Or comment on it.
Maybe you can watch the video before accusing me of something I didn’t do.
disgusting.
The only consolation I have is that I have the firm believe the nature will pay back.I remember from years ago that Hawaii's goddess Pele was so pissed of with their humans on the island, she would throw a temper tantrum at her islands in habitants.
Pele is the Hawaiian volcano deity, an elemental force, and the creator of these volcanic landscapes. According to tradition, she is embodied by the lava and natural forces associated with volcanic eruptions.
My no comment comment.
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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
@snoopydawg
a comment from Joe Shikspack. I apologize again. I can't follow anything anymore on this site. Be happy that you don't lose your mind in the way I do.
I’m not looking for conspiracy theories. People are talking about what they are seeing there. And some important information about the history of the US taking Hawaii. It seems obvious that others didn’t either since no one answered the question I asked. Or comment on it.
Maybe you can watch the video before accusing me of something I didn’t do.
The legal status of Hawaii is an evolving legal matter as it pertains to United States law. The US Federal law was amended in 1993 with the Apology Resolution which "acknowledges that the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii occurred with the active participation of agents and citizens of the United States and further acknowledges that the Native Hawaiian people never directly relinquished to the United States their claims to their inherent sovereignty as a people over their national lands".
Hawaii is internationally recognized as a state of the United States of America. Sovereignty advocates argue that Hawaii is an independent nation under military occupation due to the fact that there is no treaty of annexation between the Hawaiian Kingdom and the United States. The legality of control of Hawaii by the United States has also been raised on the losing side in cases in the United States Supreme Court,[2] and in U.S. District Court.[3] Recent legal action includes the dismissal of Hawaiian Kingdom v. Biden on December 14, 2022.[4]
The truth is that each and every step along Hawaii's path from sovereign and independent nation, to annexed territory, to state, was done in violation of laws and treaties then in effect, without regard to the wishes of the Hawaiian people. Many people, including President Grover Cleveland, opposed the annexation of Hawaii.
But in the end, simple greed and military interest overrode any concerns of moral right and legality. Hawaii's legitimate government was toppled using threat of American military force. Hawaii was stolen from her people for the benefit of wealthy American plantation owners and military interests, and the justifications for the crime were invented after-the-fact.
Hawaii's government was overthrown on Jan. 17, 1893, by a relatively small group of men, most of them American by birth or heritage, who seized control of the Islands with the backing of American troops sent ashore from a warship in Honolulu Harbor. To this "superior force of the United States of America," Queen Lili`uokalani yielded her throne, under protest, in order to avoid bloodshed, trusting that the United States government would right the wrong that had been done to her and the Hawaiian people.
ps Took the time to watch the video, but rarely have time to follow-up with starting a comment thread.
And what she said about Hawaii not being an actual part of America? Did anyone see that part?
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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.
The Civil War made it de jure as well as de facto that no territory ever claimed by the United States and made into a State by whatever legal chicanery can ever be released from that bondage.
#5 of acquiring landmass without consent of Native Hawaiian people as an annexed territory in the 1890's followed by statehood in 1959.
The legal status of Hawaii is an evolving legal matter as it pertains to United States law. The US Federal law was amended in 1993 with the Apology Resolution which "acknowledges that the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii occurred with the active participation of agents and citizens of the United States and further acknowledges that the Native Hawaiian people never directly relinquished to the United States their claims to their inherent sovereignty as a people over their national lands".
Hawaii is internationally recognized as a state of the United States of America. Sovereignty advocates argue that Hawaii is an independent nation under military occupation due to the fact that there is no treaty of annexation between the Hawaiian Kingdom and the United States. The legality of control of Hawaii by the United States has also been raised on the losing side in cases in the United States Supreme Court,[2] and in U.S. District Court.[3] Recent legal action includes the dismissal of Hawaiian Kingdom v. Biden on December 14, 2022.[4]
The truth is that each and every step along Hawaii's path from sovereign and independent nation, to annexed territory, to state, was done in violation of laws and treaties then in effect, without regard to the wishes of the Hawaiian people. Many people, including President Grover Cleveland, opposed the annexation of Hawaii.
But in the end, simple greed and military interest overrode any concerns of moral right and legality. Hawaii's legitimate government was toppled using threat of American military force. Hawaii was stolen from her people for the benefit of wealthy American plantation owners and military interests, and the justifications for the crime were invented after-the-fact.
Hawaii's government was overthrown on Jan. 17, 1893, by a relatively small group of men, most of them American by birth or heritage, who seized control of the Islands with the backing of American troops sent ashore from a warship in Honolulu Harbor. To this "superior force of the United States of America," Queen Lili`uokalani yielded her throne, under protest, in order to avoid bloodshed, trusting that the United States government would right the wrong that had been done to her and the Hawaiian people.
ps Took the time to watch the video, but rarely have time to follow-up with starting a comment thread.
The legal status of Hawaii is an evolving legal matter as it pertains to United States law. The US Federal law was amended in 1993 with the Apology Resolution which "acknowledges that the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii occurred with the active participation of agents and citizens of the United States and further acknowledges that the Native Hawaiian people never directly relinquished to the United States their claims to their inherent sovereignty as a people over their national lands".
Hawaii is internationally recognized as a state of the United States of America. Sovereignty advocates argue that Hawaii is an independent nation under military occupation due to the fact that there is no treaty of annexation between the Hawaiian Kingdom and the United States. The legality of control of Hawaii by the United States has also been raised on the losing side in cases in the United States Supreme Court,[2] and in U.S. District Court.[3] Recent legal action includes the dismissal of Hawaiian Kingdom v. Biden on December 14, 2022.[4]
The truth is that each and every step along Hawaii's path from sovereign and independent nation, to annexed territory, to state, was done in violation of laws and treaties then in effect, without regard to the wishes of the Hawaiian people. Many people, including President Grover Cleveland, opposed the annexation of Hawaii.
But in the end, simple greed and military interest overrode any concerns of moral right and legality. Hawaii's legitimate government was toppled using threat of American military force. Hawaii was stolen from her people for the benefit of wealthy American plantation owners and military interests, and the justifications for the crime were invented after-the-fact.
Hawaii's government was overthrown on Jan. 17, 1893, by a relatively small group of men, most of them American by birth or heritage, who seized control of the Islands with the backing of American troops sent ashore from a warship in Honolulu Harbor. To this "superior force of the United States of America," Queen Lili`uokalani yielded her throne, under protest, in order to avoid bloodshed, trusting that the United States government would right the wrong that had been done to her and the Hawaiian people.
ps Took the time to watch the video, but rarely have time to follow-up with starting a comment thread.
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I find the incident highly suspicious.
I also posted several clips in today's ww kinda saying the same as the anon vid you posted.
The incident and gov't reaction doesn't pass the smell test.
Thanks for the clip!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Once again, we can see the opportunity cost
for disbelieving in the legitimacy of our social order. This account asserts that the authorities launched the Maui fire storm as an assault on the people who lived there. I've been through this already with respect to the Plandemic, and I have internalized the reality that the existing authorities are shameless liars pursuing a covert scheme to reshape civilization itself. This makes some friends and relatives regard me as crazy as hell and estranged from objective reality.
In turn, I say the same thing about them -- a very unpleasant situation that I wish I could have avoided. I firmly believe that this factor, rather than a lack of mental competence, accounts for the
lack of much opposition to the craziness running our society.
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
I find this desperate search for the best conspiracy theory
disgusting.
The only consolation I have is that I have the firm believe the nature will pay back.I remember from years ago that Hawaii's goddess Pele was so pissed of with their humans on the island, she would throw a temper tantrum at her islands in habitants.
My no comment comment.
Didn’t watch the video right?
I’m not looking for conspiracy theories. People are talking about what they are seeing there. And some important information about the history of the US taking Hawaii. It seems obvious that others didn’t either since no one answered the question I asked. Or comment on it.
Maybe you can watch the video before accusing me of something I didn’t do.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
I did apologize for my comment somewhere inside a
a comment from Joe Shikspack. I apologize again. I can't follow anything anymore on this site. Be happy that you don't lose your mind in the way I do.
Hope you can forgive.
Be well and have a good one.
More of a search for an actual conspiracy
imho.
Things are not adding up. All we can do is follow the money at this point.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
We will still be treated
to the spectacle of people hearing hoofbeats and deciding that they were caused by zebras.
We're Americans. It's what we do.
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
Can anyone address the Washington part of the video?
And what she said about Hawaii not being an actual part of America? Did anyone see that part?
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
There is an ongoing controversy regarding the process
of acquiring landmass without consent of Native Hawaiian people as an annexed territory in the 1890's followed by statehood in 1959.
Wikipedia
Hawaii is not legally a state! is also an informative read.
ps Took the time to watch the video, but rarely have time to follow-up with starting a comment thread.
Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.
This wrong will never be allowed to be righted
The Civil War made it de jure as well as de facto that no territory ever claimed by the United States and made into a State by whatever legal chicanery can ever be released from that bondage.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
another comment that deserves a big chocolate chunk as a prize.
Reminiscent of my German grandmother's style of humor.
Only she tended to use barnyard references instead of culinary.
Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.